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#1 Oct 18 2014 at 11:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just wondering, but why do you keep listing things on the auction house for less than they're worth to an NPC vendor? You can only put so many items up at a time, why waste the space?

Edited, Oct 23rd 2014 10:32pm by Kuwoobie
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#2 Oct 19 2014 at 12:17 AM Rating: Good
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Sometimes people actually NEED the item in question.

Seriously, I couldn't buy the GEO spells I wanted because NPCers just kept buying the **** when they popped up on AH while I was out of town or asleep. :(
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#3 Oct 19 2014 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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Sometimes people actually NEED the item in question.

Seriously, I couldn't buy the GEO spells I wanted because NPCers just kept buying the **** when they popped up on AH while I was out of town or asleep. :(


While that is a good point, the OP's question still stands: Why list below the vendor-to-NPC price?

IF your GEO spell vendors for 1k, why are people listing it for 800g? They could at least list it for 1k so that nobody will buy it to vendor. Never understood this behavior myself, to be honest though it is hardly limited to XI. I've seen it in XIV (though usually the difference is 1-10 gil) and also in WoW.

I'd chalk it up to people just being plain uneducated and/or unwilling to actually check the vendor price first.
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My unspoken point is that it isn't so much about personal profit as it is contributing to the community. Think of it as a form of charity.
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#7 Oct 20 2014 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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I do this for spells in particular because it's just a pain in the *** to be the guy trying to find spells that aren't readily available at a reasonable cost. I also tend to overpay for spells that are going ridiculously cheap to encourage more to put them up in the future (not by a lot, but if I see a scroll for 1k that vendors for 9, I'm probably going to pay you 10-15k for your troubles). But.. scrolls shouldn't really be part of the economy anyhow, I think... it's like introducing an in-game job that isn't a job unless people are kind enough to allow it to be a job after you buy the items from those said people and permanently teach yourself a spell that you have no way of selling back to the community in the same way you can gear etc. Kind of lame when compared to other games where, when this is done, its done in extremely rare cases for extremely rare spells, or "modifications" spells to improve or cosmetically alter them in some way that won't hamper a new players game-play and ability to participate just because they chose a certain class/job/whathaveyou. Then again, I'm one of those people who thinks the skill-up system is just plain stupid in general as well, especially in FFXI where they are so specifically broken down that it's just ridiculous, ranged, marksmanship, and throwing for example... could easily be one category without hurting the game AT ALL.
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Enter age olde, "Melee can resell their gear, mages can't resell their spells!" argument... :P

But yeah, the spell and skill system would be one of those revamps I'd look into if better trying to modernize the game.
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#9 Oct 21 2014 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd chalk it up to people just being plain uneducated and/or unwilling to actually check the vendor price first.


Bingo. I'm unlikely to bother checking the vendor price for anything that I'm not trying to move in large quantities, and ffxiah/clopedia don't have the information for everything.

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#10 Oct 22 2014 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
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On thing about the Mog Garden I love...fast access to vender trash dumping. I just pull up FFIXAH and do a quick check on AH prices and if the good ol'Mog buddy will buy it for more, I'll dump on him.

One thing I try to do is sell scrolls on AH, just cause some you can't get from venders. Problem I find is, even if I list it for like 100g over the vender price...tends to get returned to my box. Happens quite a bit with DRK scrolls. If I've got the space, I'll cycle them twice on the AH...if no sale after that...to the vender man I go.

I'll do the same with items used in quests (if it's listed on the wiki). Again, give it about 2 cycles and off to the vender man.
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#11 Oct 22 2014 at 7:23 AM Rating: Default
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On thing about the Mog Garden I love...fast access to vender trash dumping. I just pull up FFIXAH and do a quick check on AH prices and if the good ol'Mog buddy will buy it for more, I'll dump on him.

One thing I try to do is sell scrolls on AH, just cause some you can't get from venders. Problem I find is, even if I list it for like 100g over the vender price...tends to get returned to my box. Happens quite a bit with DRK scrolls. If I've got the space, I'll cycle them twice on the AH...if no sale after that...to the vender man I go.

I'll do the same with items used in quests (if it's listed on the wiki). Again, give it about 2 cycles and off to the vender man.


I don't even bother selling scrolls on AH these days unless they are actually bona fide difficult to get (stuff that requires Burning Circle battles, etc), or if they are worth more than double the vendor price.

Why? Because if I came across one without even trying, it'd take your average player <10min to travel to the area, kill a few mobs and get the drop on anything that isn't in Adoulin. I find that most spells dropped by non-NM mobs fall out of the sky like candy. Just spend a few min in there if you actually need the stupid thing, lol.

Once you hit Lv99, get your sparks gear, there's nothing you can't handle Pre-Adoulin (which is why they go for vendor price in the first place). If JoeWHM out there is too lazy to spend 5min to go to Onzozo, Gustav, or wherever his spells drop (usually goblins) to get the spells he needs from mobs he can easily kill solo, then that's his problem.

And even then, most of the "required" spells are found on vendors anyways, easily enough to get up To Lv99.

EDIT: What really gets me are people who gouge vendor-sold spells at the AH. For example, the many spells sold at Mhaura. They sell from the Vendor at 20k; people buy them and list them for 80k (and they actually sell for that!). Shame on the greedy people who don't have any better ways of making gil other than blatantly ripping people off, and shame on the idiots actually falling for it and not looking up source/price of expensive spells in the first place and just going "buy buy buy buy" without doing any research.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2014 9:27am by Lyrailis
#12 Oct 22 2014 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I would like to point out also, that a lot of "really expensive scrolls" can be purchased from NPC's throughout the world. FFclopedia even has the prices listed for these spells. Reprisal is the perfect example of this. sells for 28.5k in al zhabi, but on the AH it goes for 100k. Do people really not do any research first?
#13 Oct 22 2014 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's just the lazy tax at play. And for some still sitting on RMT christmas 2005 gil, they probably don't care.
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#14 Oct 22 2014 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's just the lazy tax at play. And for some still sitting on RMT christmas 2005 gil, they probably don't care.


Yeah, I've bought vendor scrolls with a lazy tax markup, and honestly, eh... I don't care much. If they are selling it for something somewhat reasonable I don't care. If a price seems ridiculous I look it up, and if it is much cheaper from the vendor I will run and get it. I used to make a small amount of gil doing the same with low level scrolls, especially back when it was annoying to travel.

I figure the person is doing me a favour and making it easy for me to get all my scrolls the lazy way. If it's like 5-20K gil difference I can make that much doing other things in the amount of time it takes me to run to various ends of the earth to buy them from a vendor.
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#16 Oct 23 2014 at 1:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I used to sell knight's minne for 2K... not bad for like a 20 gil scroll.
#17 Oct 23 2014 at 5:28 PM Rating: Good
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I usually unload crap at the Port Jeuno auction house, that way I can just turn around and double-check vendor prices with the NPC standing right there.
#18 Oct 24 2014 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Some of those scrolls for whm/blm are ONLY sold by that shop in lower Jeuno RIGHT beside the auction house. No one is so lazy that they wouldn't walk 5 feet away for much lower prices. Besides, ffclopedia takes all of 10 seconds to verify a spells sale location and price. Also, with the new home point teleport system, there really is no excuse for "laziness". Why would anyone intentionally rip themselves off, when finding and acquiring these things have become so easy?
#19 Oct 24 2014 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Also, with the new home point teleport system, there really is no excuse for "laziness". Why would anyone intentionally rip themselves off, when finding and acquiring these things have become so easy?


If I want to spend my gil on the convenience of not having to look crap up on wiki and not having to zone out multiple times, that's my business. I can pay to be lazy if I want to.
#20 Oct 24 2014 at 7:26 PM Rating: Good
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Some of those scrolls for whm/blm are ONLY sold by that shop in lower Jeuno RIGHT beside the auction house. No one is so lazy that they wouldn't walk 5 feet away for much lower prices.


You would be very surprised.

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