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Yeah, um... someone needs to explain to SE exactly what the word 'free' means.

sh*t like this, man. I'll admit that I'm probably one of SE's toughest critics. Deservedly so, but lately I've eased up on them. Then all of a sudden they come along and yank the ARR welcome mat right out from underneath me.

Not only do you have to pay for the 'free' month prior to servers going down, but you have your sub fees increase for XI if you bundled them for a discount. SE be trollin!

From what I understand, the remaining portion of October is free (and of course up to November 10th as well) depending on when your billing date falls. September 29th is the cut-off point. So if you are billed on the 30th, you'll get September 30th till closing free. If you are billed on the 28th, you'll get the 28th of October till closing free.

So, basically, if you aren't subscribed and want to see the end of the world, sooner is better than later because you'll have more "free" time that way for the same price.

Edited, Sep 12th 2012 12:48pm by Xoie

Non-issue anyway you look at it.

Move along...nothing to see here.

People generally want to start a game when they buy it and I haven't asked around, but I would also assume that most people don't wait until the 1st to start playing it.

Just out of curiosity, do you really blame the consumer for being stupid? Any and every other company is competent enough to run a subscription service that bills customers for 30 days of service. SE does now, but it wasn't all that long ago when they could only handle billing from the beginning to the end of the month. Sub on the 29th? sh*t out of luck. Pay once to get you to the end of the month and again on the 1st for the following month.

Whether or not you get 11 days or 40 days doesn't really matter to me, because I won't be playing anyway. It just seems odd to me that they wouldn't honor the discount for packaging XI/XIV subscriptions while they make the transition to ARR. It's not a deal-breaker, but definitely a head scratch moment.

That drama no longer exists so it's irrelevant, much like the comment you made to support the reasoning.


You didn't blame SE, you blamed the people who don't sub at a specific time. Are you now saying that SE is stupid instead of their customers? I can't keep up.


The bottom line is that there will be a lot of customers who have to pay for 2 weeks, 1 week or even a day for a full month of service if they want to keep their accounts active in time to take part in the 'free' period for XIV. They could actually call it free if they prorated the monthly charge to bridge the gap between the end of your cycle in September until the 30th when it actually starts. This would make sense, it would avoid confusion and it works, as many companies have known for quite some time now...


What the hell kind of broken logic is that?

Spending less != saving more

If you walk out of a grocery store with half the items that were on your list then you didn't save any money, you spent less. If you walk out of a grocery store with the 100$ worth of groceries that were on your list for $80, you saved money. Sure, in the case of XI/XIV you aren't spending as much, but you also don't receive service beyond early November. You don't really need a doctorate to figure that out


Edited, Sep 12th 2012 7:19pm by FilthMcNasty

Double post

Edited, Sep 12th 2012 10:45pm by Louiscool

Look, I admit the timing is poor but SE extended a discount for a period of time now that period of time is over the price went back to what it used to be. I just don't see how that is 'trollin'. This exact pattern is carried out every day in supermarkets, restaurants and a host of other industries.

Edited, Sep 15th 2012 6:13am by kainsilv