think SE will announce a date this month :: Final Fantasy XIV (FFXIV, FF14)

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#27 Feb 06 2013 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default

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To be fair, they still made $42 million last year, but it was down over 60% I think. There is a lot riding on this game.

And when/if ARR fails, they may not even be able to revitilize XI, the MMO that's damn near saving them (and have, considering Wada said it made SE the most money of any project.)

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#28 Feb 06 2013 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent

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Well if we look at the price of ffxi pc vs console prices they are the same.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/
Usually monthly subscription games Sell at a discount to other games so they can make the money back on subscriptions. it is the whole razor and blades idea or printer and ink.

I agree SE has allot riding on this game and could really hurt the company if it fails. I still believed they should have changed the name completely from FFXIV which I am sure has been debated many times before There are so many people that are not going to know this is a whole new game. They are just going to say FFXIV I remember that game and it was horrible.

I also agree they wont announce a date for a while yet. they may announce a window eventually though. Like something after June or July..

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#29 Feb 06 2013 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent

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60 dollars for a 2 yeah old game that ps3 players get 2 years late? yeah ill give amazon my 40 bucks lol

It's a $20 difference... Twenty Dollars.

Twenty. Dollars.

it's likely a matter of principle and that you need to pay a subscription on top of that to get the full experience.

not wanting to pay 60$ is perfectly reasonable, and I wouldn't buy this game on PS3 for more than 30 personally.

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#30 Feb 06 2013 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent

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I wouldn't be thrilled at playing on the PS3 at all. However I remember when I started XI and my PS2 was the most powerful electronics I owned, and I loved it. Of course XI got me into PC building, and now during the day I'm an Application Developer for a major company, which can all be traced back to XI Smiley: smile

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yeah me neither, despite the fact I'll be playing XIV(if it's good) with my 360 controller, I'll prefer PC over consoles WHENEVER possible.

I'm just saying if i was still at a point in my life where I didn't know how to operate a computer like when I was 10 on PS2 FFXI. $30 for the PS3 FFXIV would seem appropriate.

not sure how/if they will be able to sell it for any more than that with a subscription fee attached

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#32 Feb 06 2013 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent

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Poubelle wrote:

yeah me neither, despite the fact I'll be playing XIV(if it's good) with my 360 controller, I'll prefer PC over consoles WHENEVER possible.

I'm just saying if i was still at a point in my life where I didn't know how to operate a computer like when I was 10 on PS2 FFXI. $30 for the PS3 FFXIV would seem appropriate.

not sure how/if they will be able to sell it for any more than that with a subscription fee attached

Edited, Feb 6th 2013 1:58pm by Poubelle

I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.

So basically it comes down to different reasons for different people. Some its money, some its ease of use, and some it is comfort.

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I just want to add is the computer better to play on.

Well with ffxi it sure is especially with some of the add on's. Hell some of them are as good as outright cheating.

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#33 Feb 06 2013 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent

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Nashred wrote:

I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.

Consoles are sold at a loss, at least when they first come out. Console manufacturers make up for the loss on the money they make on the licensing for games. A console is therefore a better value than a similarly capable PC, at least at the time of purchase.

But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.

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#34 Feb 06 2013 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent

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Nashred wrote:

I don't think it has anything to do with being 10 or age. When consoles come out they are comparable to the higher end gaming machines if not better but that changes over time since consoles are not upgradable. I used to be a big computer gamer and I am a IT person.. But keeping up in the pc market is fruitless and extremely expensive with high end gaming machines being in the thousands of dollars.

It also about the fact this driver doesn't work or this driver with this game. Console gaming is basically throw the disk in and it works. you also get to sit in front of your tv and with the resolution of tvs now adays being comparable to monitors.

The ps3 is at the end of its life cycle so there will be a downgrade in graphics or draw in distance we heard this already I think.

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Consoles are sold at a loss, at least when they first come out. Console manufacturers make up for the loss on the money they make on the licensing for games. A console is therefore a better value than a similarly capable PC, at least at the time of purchase.

Yep I agree completely.

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But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.

I am not sure I understand?
I didn't say the ps3 version would affect the pc version? I think they are being developed separately.. They said the ps3 would have slightly down graded graphics and a little less draw in distance. Graphically the pc should be better. If there was a ps4 version on the horizon that would be different. Most pc games have affects you can turn off or down for the slower pc's. Again I have not played FFXIV yet. Also the new engine is supposed to have upgraded graphics over the last one I believe I read somewhere.

If you look at FFXI though all three versions are virtually identical.

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#35 Feb 06 2013 at 10:31 PM Rating: Default

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Xoie wrote:

But as for FFXIV supporting lower graphics capability, it shouldn't really affect the PC version (the caveat being there's a new engine so there will be inevitable differences), and in many ways, it should actually improve the performance. Your PC graphics card might be like a car that's strong enough to do a quick "0 to 60" while dragging a tire behind it, but even that time would improve if you could lose the tire. Any efficiencies they make to get more lower end machines into the picture are savings that are passed on to higher end machines as well, which frees them up to support even more engaging scenery.

I have no idea why you're saying here either

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#36 Feb 07 2013 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent

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If you look at FFXI though all three versions are virtually identical.

Not really SE gave up and made minor UI modifications to the PC version, and the PC version is getting a major UI overhaul to modernize it sometime in the next few months.

PS2 ran at VGA resolution, 640x480, no matter what. The Xbox version ran at 720p, almost double the resolution. The PC version can now run at 1080p even without adjusting the registry, and with registry tweaks can have insane 3D background resolutions. The PC version also allows the overlay and menu resolution to now be adjusted independently, and now uses a different font set from PS2 and Xbox.

PS2 was also notorious for not allowing users to turn off weather effects like they could on PC, which was actually a big problem in zones like Beaucedine, where the snowstorms made visibility nil and slowed the game to a crawl. That's been an issue since PS2 release.

So the versions were pretty similar, but they've never been identical, and now the PC is basically going to be a different appearing game entirely.

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#37 Feb 07 2013 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent

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The UI would be different one is made for mouse and KB and the other joystick. All 3 have to have different engines. The 360 and pc are similar since they are versions of windows.

I really don't know how to explain this but someone else might be able to do it better:
Graphics on games made to be multi platform are almost always made to the lowest system. Display resolution is something different. Display resolution can be done totally independent of the game through up converting which a lot of tvs, consoles etc do. The menus and stuff defiantly can be done in a higher resolution etc. The the actual in game graphics are the same even though they can be displayed at higher resolution for the pc or xbox. They are not going to draw a mountain 3 different time to be displayed on 3 different platforms that would get expensive. . As I said before programs usually turn things off for slower systems or computer like you said the weather effects or run at less fps. Really hard to explain what I am talking about. I have been Xbox gaming for so long now.

When I said identical I meant in game graphics.

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think SE will announce a date this monthFollow