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Hey Ostia, you ever take my advice and play through Final Fantasy IX yet?

Outside of the "Echo" tell me one original story part of XIV :)

An OST = A story Arc ? Hahahaha! God you really do try to try hard huh ?

And here i was expecting something astounding.... And that is the best you can do ? Really ?

Or ? You going to rate me down He was being an idiot, or would you rather have me call him a liar ? or stupid ? I mean making an argument about something that i did not argue about is pretty Stupid. It would be like me and you arguing about who the greatest basket ball player is, and then me saying "Well Teravibe the yankees are the best baseball team ever, so tiger woods is better than michael jordan" Which is pretty stupid

Also since when is the word "Noob" offensive ? Seriously you guys are such carebears at times.

The FF development team isn't even the same as it was, nor is there any real connection (let alone resemblance) between a lot of the games other than superficial trademarks (chocobos, tonberries, cactuars, crystals, etc.), so I'm not really worried about whether there will be more of them or not.

Ah, okay. Grasping at straws then?

hom·age [hom-ij, om-] noun
something done or given in acknowledgment or consideration of the worth of another.


Final Fantasy IX has at least 113 references to other games in the series. It branded itself as a nostalgic title.

Final Fantasy XIV has 40.

You make these outrageous claims that Final Fantasy games can't hold on their own. The only one I can really think of that actually tried to break all nostalgic ties was XIII, and I hated it because they tried to do something TOO different.

Final Fantasy XIV's story presents itself as an original story as a three-way fight between the primals/beastmen, the city-states, and the Garlean Empire who has an alternate plan to put waste to the primals in their own fashion. The nostalgic references come from Yoshida's desire to put the transformations to the world in a way that Final Fantasy fans distinctly remember. They could have gone the FFVI route and put three statues on Rivenroad that Nael Van Darnus threw out of balance in order for Eorzea to go into ruins, they could have done something completely original, but they went for the one that struck home most; a way that most-Final Fantasy fans can truly identify with, a Final Fantasy VII-style way.

And there's nothing wrong with the homages they've thrown at us so far. The only ones I don't truly agree with so far is the Dark Cloud being at the top of Crystal Tower, but then again she didn't really have a back-story in FFIII, she just kind of appeared out of nowhere, and I'm hoping her FFXIV appearance can probably explain some more to that.

As for future Final Fantasy games, I'm hoping future games don't go in the same route as XIII, that's not the direction the series should be going in. I know the Final Fantasy games pride themselves on graphics, but it shouldn't sacrifice itself on gameplay, and I hope the final Final Fantasy game would try to embrace its roots when they come with a new story, not abandon it.


Edited, May 11th 2013 6:42am by UltKnightGrover

I'm sorry, please explain to me how I was not being civil? Did I call you a noob, or an idiot, or anything else? Nope. I pointed out that your insinuation about FFXI not borrowing storyline ideas from EQ was not only wrong, but also that your comment was a subtle attempt to poke fun at the FFXIV storyline and how you think it's just a ripoff of WoW. You can argue all you want that it wasn't the case, and if it truly wasn't, then I apologize. In several other threads you've made the same connection, so it's easy to see how that could be misconstrued.

Seriously though, why all the animosity towards everyone? Are you really that narcissistic that you have to make everything about you and how much smarter or less of a noob you are than others? Because I gotta tell you, every time I see you make another of those arrogant posts where you just bash people, followed by a , it just makes it seem like you can't even formulate a coherent argument without the use of name-calling. It certainly doesn't make you look like you're winning any arguments, in fact to me it's an automatic admission of defeat. It's like what my 4-year old nephew does when he's losing an argument. "Oh yeah, well you're a doody head!"

And yes, noob is offensive. Especially when used in a derogatory sense like you are, to try and discount someone's opinion by saying they don't know anything. It's not clever or witty, it's crass and pointlessly aggressive.


Edited, May 11th 2013 10:19am by BartelX

On that note, both of my favorite easter eggs in XI are found in San d'Oria.

The wells all say "This is a well."

In the Chateau d'Orguelle, the late Queen Leute had woven many tapestries. Several are plain geometric designs. One grand one is the church from Tavnazia, which is half buried under rubble after it was blown up during the Crystal War. (The top was blown clean off and the Tavnazian Safehold, as it's now called, is open air.)

But the funniest one is from the opening scene from FFIX, tucked away deep in the castle outside the king's chambers.

Edited, May 11th 2013 10:21am by Catwho

Too many releases may water down the series. Eventually, other than sharing a name, it won't be a 'Final Fantasy.' There are plenty of IP's that have great story lines and characters on the market. The fact that so many people refer to past releases is a testament to what the game was.