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#102 May 20 2013 at 9:29 AM Rating: Default
Ostia wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
There actually will be a release tomorrow of information.



I eagerly anticipate how you will somehow use said info to start an argument and then flame all who try to apply logic to it.


You should not worry then, never have we ever worried about logic and you being in the same thread.


That was hilarious from like a "I just zinged you" point of view, I'll concede that fact. But who said I am the one applying the logic? Besides, I find my illogical way of thinking entertaining.


Hey if it makes you happy, who am i to judge ?


I don't know but you seem to do it with astonishing regularity on this thread. So you tell us..Who ARE you to judge?
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#104 May 20 2013 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.
#105 May 20 2013 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
Kachi wrote:
On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.


I really liked that one. Hope you enjoy it to completion Smiley: smile
#106 May 20 2013 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
Kachi wrote:
On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.


FFXII was very Final Fantasy-y.
#107 May 20 2013 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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electromagnet83 wrote:
Kachi wrote:
On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.


FFXII was very Final Fantasy-y.


Don't even get me started on that. Suffice it to say that I disagree, as did many others.
#108 May 20 2013 at 5:50 PM Rating: Excellent
Kachi wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Kachi wrote:
On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.


FFXII was very Final Fantasy-y.


Don't even get me started on that. Suffice it to say that I disagree, as did many others.


I liked it, and so did many others.
#109 May 20 2013 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, yes. People have different opinions. I'm only pointing out that I'm far from alone in believing that many people, whether they liked XII or not, felt that it was an offline dungeon crawler that lacked the nostalgic staples of the FF series.
#110 May 20 2013 at 6:17 PM Rating: Excellent
And I'm pointing out that just as many liked it for what it was.
#111 May 20 2013 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
Hey! I do not allow FFXII hate on my forum..... FFXII was the most Final Fantasy game of the series, the mark/hunt aspect was awesome, the crafting was awesome, the job system was ok (Ok i admit it was lackluster but Hey) the only part that i hated, was the storyline, it was cut short.... a whole lot short, but that was more SE doing than anything.
#112 May 20 2013 at 6:33 PM Rating: Excellent
Ostia wrote:
Hey! I do not allow FFXII hate on my forum..... FFXII was the most Final Fantasy game of the series, the mark/hunt aspect was awesome, the crafting was awesome, the job system was ok (Ok i admit it was lackluster but Hey) the only part that i hated, was the storyline, it was cut short.... a whole lot short, but that was more SE doing than anything.


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#113 May 20 2013 at 6:34 PM Rating: Default
Ostia wrote:
Hey! I do not allow FFXII hate on my forum..... FFXII was the most Final Fantasy game of the series, the mark/hunt aspect was awesome, the crafting was awesome, the job system was ok (Ok i admit it was lackluster but Hey) the only part that i hated, was the storyline, it was cut short.... a whole lot short, but that was more SE doing than anything.


See there, we aren't so different! FFXII was one of my favorites primarily because of the lack of battle transition. I felt like we were far enough technologically to get rid of that. The story was great, not so much Love story like the others. My only issue with it was that my disc skipped during the final CG scene so I never saw it Smiley: frown

Edit: Also, there is a CLEAR FFXII influence on FFXIV 2.0 from the blue dot zone transitions to the (no NDA break but trust me Osita, you mentioned in it your post) which makes me extremely happy.


Edited, May 20th 2013 8:36pm by electromagnet83
#114 May 20 2013 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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FFXII tried something different by bringing the Tactics development team to the center stage. I enjoyed it a lot. Because it was its own universe within a universe, I can still appreciate it as an FF title. I like seeing the Tactics/XII influences in FFXIV's art design.
#115 May 20 2013 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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FFXII had Final Fantasy written all over it. I loved that game. And the Judges were badass.
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#116 May 20 2013 at 6:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I certainly don't think FFXII was a bad game. I personally couldn't enjoy it because the gameplay was nearly ripped straight from FFXI, which I was already sick of by the time XII was released. Minus things like a strong story, there just wasn't much for me there.

But even as a "good game," it has fewer similarities to its FF predecessors than many JRPGs from completely different franchises.
#117 May 20 2013 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi, have you played Final Fantasy Tactics at all? I have to say, those two games are quite similar. As I mentioned, they're of the same universe. That explains why FFXII has fewer similarities to other FF games. It's how I see it, at least.
#118 May 20 2013 at 7:01 PM Rating: Default
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I certainly don't think FFXII was a bad game. I personally couldn't enjoy it because the gameplay was nearly ripped straight from FFXI, which I was already sick of by the time XII was released. Minus things like a strong story, there just wasn't much for me there.

But even as a "good game," it has fewer similarities to its FF predecessors than many JRPGs from completely different franchises.


I loved the fact that FFXII was like FFXI battle and gameplay wise. Because at the time I was frustrated with the extreme grind fest of FFXI, the outdated graphics (those who know me know ultimately I have a fondness for FFXI so settle down), and the fact that I simply didn't have the time to get anywhere in it. FFXII was like "FFXI Offline" with a rich story line and character development.
#119 May 20 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Good
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I will shamelessly admit that Fran is one of my favorite characters in the series. I keep thinking about how in early development, Balthier was supposed to be the main character, hence all of his quips about being the leading man. I wish they had stuck with that. Vaan wasn't enough for me in a leading protagonist.
#120 May 20 2013 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Atkascha wrote:
Kachi, have you played Final Fantasy Tactics at all? I have to say, those two games are quite similar. As I mentioned, they're of the same universe. That explains why FFXII has fewer similarities to other FF games. It's how I see it, at least.


FFT is one of my favorite games of all times. I'm aware of the superficial similarities between the two; they do nothing for me. FFXII borrowed more from FFTA, which is a vastly inferior spinoff to FFT.
#121 May 20 2013 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Kachi wrote:
I certainly don't think FFXII was a bad game. I personally couldn't enjoy it because the gameplay was nearly ripped straight from FFXI, which I was already sick of by the time XII was released.


I liked it for exactly that reason. It plays just like an upgraded version of FFXI. That was a plus for me.
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#122 May 20 2013 at 7:13 PM Rating: Default
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I will shamelessly admit that Fran is one of my favorite characters in the series. I keep thinking about how in early development, Balthier was supposed to be the main character, hence all of his quips about being the leading man. I wish they had stuck with that. Vaan wasn't enough for me in a leading protagonist.


Omg Fran's voice was super sexy.
#123 May 20 2013 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Atkascha wrote:
I will shamelessly admit that Fran is one of my favorite characters in the series. I keep thinking about how in early development, Balthier was supposed to be the main character, hence all of his quips about being the leading man. I wish they had stuck with that. Vaan wasn't enough for me in a leading protagonist.


Vaan = Luke
Balthier = Han Solo
Fran = Chewbacca
Ashe = Leia
Basch = Obi-Wan
Gabranth = Vader
Vayne = The Emperor
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#124 May 20 2013 at 7:28 PM Rating: Default
BrokenFox wrote:
Atkascha wrote:
I will shamelessly admit that Fran is one of my favorite characters in the series. I keep thinking about how in early development, Balthier was supposed to be the main character, hence all of his quips about being the leading man. I wish they had stuck with that. Vaan wasn't enough for me in a leading protagonist.


Vaan = Luke
Balthier = Han Solo
Fran = Chewbacca
Ashe = Leia
Basch = Obi-Wan
Gabranth = Vader
Vayne = The Emperor


Yea yea, I choose to ignore the fact that most of it's story and characters were blatant rip-offs of Star Wars.
#125 May 20 2013 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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Don't remind me about Star Wars. And yes, I agree that XII was more of a FFTA iteration. I try to ignore that, myself. FFXII is probably the game I have replayed the least out of all of them in the series. It took a long time to grow on me.
#126 May 20 2013 at 8:16 PM Rating: Default
electromagnet83 wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Hey! I do not allow FFXII hate on my forum..... FFXII was the most Final Fantasy game of the series, the mark/hunt aspect was awesome, the crafting was awesome, the job system was ok (Ok i admit it was lackluster but Hey) the only part that i hated, was the storyline, it was cut short.... a whole lot short, but that was more SE doing than anything.


See there, we aren't so different! FFXII was one of my favorites primarily because of the lack of battle transition. I felt like we were far enough technologically to get rid of that. The story was great, not so much Love story like the others. My only issue with it was that my disc skipped during the final CG scene so I never saw it Smiley: frown

Edit: Also, there is a CLEAR FFXII influence on FFXIV 2.0 from the blue dot zone transitions to the (no NDA break but trust me Osita, you mentioned in it your post) which makes me extremely happy.


Edited, May 20th 2013 8:36pm by electromagnet83



I trust you (No NDA Break) But i am Legacy :) And i know what you are talking about, tho is not the same system, and it should be, i really hope if SE is gonna borrow something from FXII, it should be that. As for the rest, Balthier was never meant to be the main character, it was basch, balthier had the role he was supposed to have, SE in it's infinite wisdom wanted a more teenage/girl looking protagonist, so yazmat had to create Vaan and therefore that other hume girl, i forget her name, but yeah that one.

Also it's the only FF title to get a perfect score, the story is not all love and happiness thing, but yazmat never makes his stories about that, they are always more political and stuff, and to me, he never really finished the game as he wanted, because those gods "What where they called ? V something" the ones that gave the dynast king the stones, we never got to fight them, we fought the good one Smiley: lol
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