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#127 May 20 2013 at 8:47 PM Rating: Default
I thought new information was supposed to be coming today? Someone said that right? Why am I so addicted to information? It's so boring lately!!!
#128 May 20 2013 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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I enjoyed XII... If you read some quotes from the producer, it seems like there were some thing going on at SE and he was forced to release before he wanted to.

I actually enjoy all the characters, and the story.

The game was however WAY too easy, so I implemented my own job system where I would limit the characters to only predefined jobs... i.e. only certain jobs could use items, one character would be a ninja, another a paladin... etc. The game became SO much more rewarding when I implemented those forced rules.

If you're a fan of the game I suggest going back and putting those limitations on yourself...

P.s. I know about the zodiac job edition, but I didn't like the jobs they provided at all, and the game was about 10x easier than the original... so I suggest you apply your own rules.
#129 May 20 2013 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I actually did place restrictions on myself--I have to do that in most RPGs or they're too easy. Usually I just do no items.
#130 May 20 2013 at 8:59 PM Rating: Default
Zodiac edition was perfect, it was not easier in any shape or form, the thing is, their jobs, where not FFT jobs.... Which yeah i kind wanted too <.<
#131 May 20 2013 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
I actually did place restrictions on myself--I have to do that in most RPGs or they're too easy. Usually I just do no items.


I don't mean to sound like an ***, but no items isn't really much of a challenge. I think in 95% of rpgs they aren't even needed at all and I almost never use them myself. It's not by choice, just the fact that most RPG's are crazy easy if you use strategy. The only exception to that would be games that basically rely on item use like the Star Ocean and Tales series, where AI characters tend to make stupid choices and use up their MP in like 4 battles, basically requiring the use of some items. But most standard turn-based rpg's tend to be easy enough to not even need items most of the time.

I'm positive you're aware of this already, but if you really want to challenge yourself, stuff like low-level or no abilities runs can make things quite difficult and tactical.

Edited, May 20th 2013 11:19pm by BartelX
#132 May 20 2013 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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BartelX wrote:
Kachi wrote:
I actually did place restrictions on myself--I have to do that in most RPGs or they're too easy. Usually I just do no items.


I don't mean to sound like an ***, but no items isn't really much of a challenge. I think in 95% of rpgs they aren't even needed at all and I almost never use them myself. It's not by choice, just the fact that most RPG's are crazy easy if you use strategy. The only exception to that would be games that basically rely on item use like the Star Ocean and Tales series, where AI characters tend to make stupid choices and use up their MP in like 4 battles, basically requiring the use of some items. But most standard turn-based rpg's tend to be easy enough to not even need items most of the time.

I'm positive you're aware of this already, but if you really want to challenge yourself, stuff like low-level or no abilities runs can make things quite difficult and tactical.

Edited, May 20th 2013 11:19pm by BartelX


I'm aware. That's just a go-to challenge that I assume in pretty much every game. Sometimes I'll devise more complex challenges for myself depending on the game, but I don't generally bother with the more advanced challenges like time runs, level 1's, etc. I don't generally play the games to challenge myself--it's their job to challenge me, and if I have to make a lot of sacrifices in order to be challenged, to me, that isn't fun.

Edit: I wouldn't even call it a challenge. I think of it more as an easy rule to follow that makes the game not absurdly easy.

Edited, May 20th 2013 8:33pm by Kachi
#133 May 20 2013 at 9:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kachi wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Kachi wrote:
I actually did place restrictions on myself--I have to do that in most RPGs or they're too easy. Usually I just do no items.


I don't mean to sound like an ***, but no items isn't really much of a challenge. I think in 95% of rpgs they aren't even needed at all and I almost never use them myself. It's not by choice, just the fact that most RPG's are crazy easy if you use strategy. The only exception to that would be games that basically rely on item use like the Star Ocean and Tales series, where AI characters tend to make stupid choices and use up their MP in like 4 battles, basically requiring the use of some items. But most standard turn-based rpg's tend to be easy enough to not even need items most of the time.

I'm positive you're aware of this already, but if you really want to challenge yourself, stuff like low-level or no abilities runs can make things quite difficult and tactical.


I'm aware. That's just a go-to challenge that I assume in pretty much every game. Sometimes I'll devise more complex challenges for myself depending on the game, but I don't generally bother with the more advanced challenges like time runs, level 1's, etc. I don't generally play the games to challenge myself--it's their job to challenge me, and if I have to make a lot of sacrifices in order to be challenged, to me, that isn't fun.

Edit: I wouldn't even call it a challenge. I think of it more as an easy rule to follow that makes the game not absurdly easy.


Yeah, I hear ya. I do the same. I realize I prefaced with "I don't mean to sound like an ***", but in re-reading, I totally did. Apologies... it's been a really ****** day.
#134 May 20 2013 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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No problem. No offense taken. Sorry you're having a bad day :/
#135 May 20 2013 at 9:39 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
No problem. No offense taken. Sorry you're having a bad day :/


Thanks. My car got hit by a deer today on the highway just outside the city I live where it's almost unfathomable that deer even exist. Even the cop was amazed that there was a deer there. It has just been the icing on a really ****** week. Probably why I've been a bit argumentative in all my posts lately. Still not a good excuse for acting like a ****.
#136 May 20 2013 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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I hate those hoofrats. The front of my car is still busted up from the last time I hit one. On the bright side, I got a check for the full value of my car, and it was still drivable. Just had to replace the headlight, and now I basically have a free ugly car.
#137 May 20 2013 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
No problem. No offense taken. Sorry you're having a bad day :/


Thanks. My car got hit by a deer today on the highway just outside the city I live where it's almost unfathomable that deer even exist. Even the cop was amazed that there was a deer there. It has just been the icing on a really sh*tty week. Probably why I've been a bit argumentative in all my posts lately. Still not a good excuse for acting like a ****.



I've been seeing a ton of this on the internet lately. My general rule if thumb is that if I have to start a sentence with "I don't mean to sound like a **** " or any variation, then I am probably about to sound like a ****.


Edited, May 20th 2013 11:58pm by electromagnet83
#138 May 20 2013 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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electromagnet83 wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Kachi wrote:
No problem. No offense taken. Sorry you're having a bad day :/


Thanks. My car got hit by a deer today on the highway just outside the city I live where it's almost unfathomable that deer even exist. Even the cop was amazed that there was a deer there. It has just been the icing on a really sh*tty week. Probably why I've been a bit argumentative in all my posts lately. Still not a good excuse for acting like a ****.



I've been seeing a ton of this on the internet lately. My general rule if thumb is that if I have to start a sentence with "I don't mean to sound like a **** " or any variation, then I am probably about to sound like a ****.


Edited, May 20th 2013 11:58pm by electromagnet83


Yep, I'd say that's pretty much the golden rule. However, I've been drinking... heavily... so instead of my normal ability to filter my posts, I just hit the button and hope for the best. And then I reread it and realize my initial thought of sounding like an *** is actually true. Hence the apology.
#139 May 20 2013 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
Haha, as I told Ostia, posting under the influence is never a good idea....hence why I still can't go on the FFXIVcore.com Forums Smiley: frown


Post response Edit: "Posting under heavy influence is never a good idea



Edited, May 21st 2013 12:32am by electromagnet83
#140 May 20 2013 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
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Well, hate to break it to you... but basically anything I post after 6 pm is under the influence of something. Granted, there are varying degrees, and pretty much regardless of the quantity, my posts will still be coherent. That's actually the most interesting part, because regardless of how tanked I get, my typing skills never seem to suffer. My cognitive abilities are a different story however...
#141 May 20 2013 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah Bartel, you have been pretty argumentative lately...I wondered if something was wrong. Granted, the usual offenders have been on you like crazy, so I thought it was just that and didn't ask. I hope the rest of your week turns out a little better.
#142 May 21 2013 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
^^^ Hey! He is the one picking fights Smiley: lol
#143 May 21 2013 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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Ostia wrote:
^^^ Hey! He is the one picking fights Smiley: lol


Wasn't my intention, you just take everything I say so personally. Smiley: sly

Please don't take that personally.Smiley: lol
#144 May 21 2013 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Oh Ostia, I know you're not the innocent one. Don't start Smiley: laugh
#145 May 21 2013 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Ostia wrote:
Zodiac edition was perfect, it was not easier in any shape or form, the thing is, their jobs, where not FFT jobs.... Which yeah i kind wanted too <.<


I think it was WAY easier... they eliminated the max damage restriction, and the difficult bosses at the end could be easily done away with. Ruined the only real challenge in the game.
#146 May 21 2013 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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BartelX wrote:
Kachi wrote:
I actually did place restrictions on myself--I have to do that in most RPGs or they're too easy. Usually I just do no items.


I don't mean to sound like an ***, but no items isn't really much of a challenge. I think in 95% of rpgs they aren't even needed at all and I almost never use them myself. It's not by choice, just the fact that most RPG's are crazy easy if you use strategy. The only exception to that would be games that basically rely on item use like the Star Ocean and Tales series, where AI characters tend to make stupid choices and use up their MP in like 4 battles, basically requiring the use of some items. But most standard turn-based rpg's tend to be easy enough to not even need items most of the time.

I'm positive you're aware of this already, but if you really want to challenge yourself, stuff like low-level or no abilities runs can make things quite difficult and tactical.

Edited, May 20th 2013 11:19pm by BartelX


Try beating XII with no items while restricting yourself to only 1 WHM, which is what I did. I assure you it's quite the challenge.

@Bartel

A few things:

I've noticed you're the master at prefacing any comments you make with "I don't mean to sound like X, BUTTTTT....." Lol it's cool, you try to say things online that you know will sound harsh, yet if said in real life they wouldn't sound so at all.

Also, I think it's hilarious you said "A deer hit my car." I'm assuming the deer is the one who got the worst of it!

Last, you said the deer incident was the icing on the cake to your bad weekend... Look on the bright side man, when you hit that deer you should have just heard the prize guy's voice from The Price is Right "A FREEEE CAR!!!!!"

Edited, May 21st 2013 11:24am by je355804
#147 May 21 2013 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Atkascha wrote:
Oh Ostia, I know you're not the innocent one. Don't start Smiley: laugh


Hey! I know i am not innocent, but this time it was really not me Smiley: lol
#148 May 21 2013 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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je355804 wrote:
@Bartel

A few things:

I've noticed you're the master at prefacing any comments you make with "I don't mean to sound like X, BUTTTTT....." Lol it's cool, you try to say things online that you know will sound harsh, yet if said in real life they wouldn't sound so at all.


Yep, that's why I preface it. I'm usually not trying to sound that way, but it's hard to get that impression across teh interwebz.

je355804 wrote:
Also, I think it's hilarious you said "A deer hit my car." I'm assuming the deer is the one who got the worst of it!


Yes, but I stand behind him hitting me, as he clearly looked right at my car before deciding it was a smart idea to run in front of it. Deer are dumb.

je355804 wrote:
Last, you said the deer incident was the icing on the cake to your bad weekend... Look on the bright side man, when you hit that deer you should have just heard the prize guy's voice from The Price is Right "A FREEEE CAR!!!!!"


Sadly, no. I still have a 750 dollar deductible to pay. My car is a 2010 Toyota Carolla and this is already the third time it's had considerable body damage; the two other times I wasn't even in my car and of course the jerks that did it didn't leave a note each time. I have very bad luck with... well, most things in life.


Edited, May 21st 2013 12:42pm by BartelX
#149 May 21 2013 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
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BartelX wrote:
Deer are dumb.
Few years ago we were doing qualification tables for rifles upstate, and part of the safety briefing is "Wild Life in this region are deaf. We are not joking, after years of gunfire most animals are hard of hearing. If one wanders onto the live range, cease all fire immediately and we will restart when it is chased off." Now, the deer didn't so much wander into the range as it ran full throttle from one lane to the next. Guess how many people stopped firing? Now guess of those who didn't stop firing now started aiming at the deer?

We had a pretty good barbeque that night, though. Doesn't really say much about people's aim that there was enough meat left on it to give about 200 people a decent chunk each, but that's why we practice.
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#150 May 21 2013 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
lolgaxe wrote:
BartelX wrote:
Deer are dumb.
Few years ago we were doing qualification tables for rifles upstate, and part of the safety briefing is "Wild Life in this region are deaf. We are not joking, after years of gunfire most animals are hard of hearing. If one wanders onto the live range, cease all fire immediately and we will restart when it is chased off." Now, the deer didn't so much wander into the range as it ran full throttle from one lane to the next. Guess how many people stopped firing? Now guess of those who didn't stop firing now started aiming at the deer?

We had a pretty good barbeque that night, though. Doesn't really say much about people's aim that there was enough meat left on it to give about 200 people a decent chunk each, but that's why we practice.


Or, perhaps their aim was perfect
#151 May 21 2013 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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On-topic: I just started playing Lost Odyssey last night, and it's already more of a Final Fantasy than any of the titles post FFX.


All this talk convinced me, and at $8.99 it seems like a good investment.

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