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#27 May 24 2013 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
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Outside of having more classes, no reason to have a scholar, or redmage, you can already cast black and white magic at the same time so......


If you're a Thaumaturge casting gimped Conjurer magic or vice-versa, sure. They could go down FFXI's route of being a mage with identity problems.

Or they could go down FF3's route of being able to scan and understand the enemy. How much health it has, what is it weak against, have abilities that push up the limit break bar? Who knows.


Man! I just think about how awesome an offline FF style scanner would be. When in a party everyone sees the splash page? That would rock
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#28 May 24 2013 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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It could be that Arcanist and summoner are new so they added both to the artwork?!? I thought Arcanist "weapon" is a book or grimoire . Link to Arcanist/summoner artwork here >>http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/53190-Arcanist-and-Summoner-artwork Doesn't have the hat on though
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#29 May 24 2013 at 4:41 PM Rating: Default
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Outside of having more classes, no reason to have a scholar, or redmage, you can already cast black and white magic at the same time so......


So here's a question... is Scholar the job? You'd get it from putting like Arcanist and Thaumaturge together or something, right? Maybe it will be more of a DoT, buff/debuff job or something?

Or, is Scholar the class, and you'd put it together with something to get to new jobs?


If it is the class or the job, is irrelevant, is a redundant class/job, with the job system in place, you can already have a black mage that can cast white magic, or vice versa, you cannot make scholar equal to Black Mage in DPS, because if you can be a scholar who does Black and white magic to full efficiency, then why bring a black mage ?

I am guessing scholar will be the class, and Red Mage will be the Job. Tho Arcanist could be Red mage too.
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#30 May 24 2013 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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You may end up having to give up the idea that you invite X mage for Y as the game goes forward. Same as meleers, there are only so many roles you can fill, and one mage class shouldn't necessarily get sweeping duties or utility to guilds, over those of any other job.
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#31 May 24 2013 at 5:25 PM Rating: Good
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Hello, which class will be the summoner class in the game, will it be the summoner that has all the summons and arcanist is just a mage or can it summon as well? ^_^
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#32 May 24 2013 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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Hello, which class will be the summoner class in the game, will it be the summoner that has all the summons and arcanist is just a mage or can it summon as well? ^_^


Arcanist will be the class for the job Summoner. We don't really know how exactly avatars will work (unless I've missed something), but as far as I understand it Arcanist will be able to summon Carbuncle and Summoner will be able to summon the essence or a part of other avatars.

Edited, May 24th 2013 8:02pm by Belcrono
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#33 May 24 2013 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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ah i gotcha, thx for the reply :>
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#34 May 24 2013 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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Well I like what someone posted in the beta forums.. Maybe Arcanist is the class and this is where they introduce job branching. Arcanist class branches to either be summoner or scholar. Do I think this will be a reality? Nah probably not. But I wouldn't mind it.

Edit: They also mentioned maybe Marauder branch to either warrior or dark knight lol. jus some ideas to throw around

Edited, May 24th 2013 11:23pm by SaitoMishima
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#35 May 24 2013 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Well i personally dislike the non FF classes/jobs, marauder was never one, i have no idea why they added it, we all wanted Dark Knights! I am still waiting on a D W class and a 2 hander class or was marauder a 2 handed warrior '?
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#36 May 24 2013 at 9:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Careful about discussing what's going on in the beta forums folks, there's still an NDA.

That being said I'd love to see some kind of THF->Assassin or Something->Ninja class added. I can't imagine they wouldn't add it down the line at some point, if the game launches well.
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#37 May 25 2013 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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So what is the job in between DRG and BRD on the left side of the image? It doesn't look like any SMN I've seen in previous titles if as was hinted the one on the right is SCH.

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#38 May 25 2013 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
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kainsilv wrote:
So what is the job in between DRG and BRD on the left side of the image? It doesn't look like any SMN I've seen in previous titles if as was hinted the one on the right is SCH.

Edited, May 25th 2013 8:46am by kainsilv


That looks like SMN with the horn and everything. Looking at the official page under "Jobs" it looks like that too.
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#39 May 25 2013 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Wint wrote:
Careful about discussing what's going on in the beta forums folks, there's still an NDA.

That being said I'd love to see some kind of THF->Assassin or Something->Ninja class added. I can't imagine they wouldn't add it down the line at some point, if the game launches well.



This is really the only thing that's missing at this point for me.

THF/NIN or "stealthy" classes are ones that I usually play first, and although MNK is a evasion class it is kinda strange that there isn't a THF class as it is one of the core classes in the FF series.
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