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#27 Jun 03 2013 at 5:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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It doesn't surprise me that FFXIVCore failed. If you've ever seen their staff post on the Lodestone, it was obvious they were in it for themselves and had no respect for the community they were supposed to represent and support. And that's not even counting the scandal of selling beta keys for money, etc.

I do feel bad for Eorzeapedia though. Not sure where it went wrong.


Eorzeapedia had more complete information than ZAM. I spent hours and hours updating quests and camp information for XIV on the ZAM forums before I realized Eorzeapedia had most of them already done.

ZAM, Lodestone, Mooglebox, FFXIVPro, FFXIV YG - I used them all. Since the servers went down this and the official forum are the only sites I visit.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 5:12pm by kainsilv


If we could get more people contributing we'd be just as successful as Eorzeapedia. They're a wiki same as us. That being said I hope to be able to announce some awesome things to come soon!
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#28 Jun 03 2013 at 6:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wint wrote:
kainsilv wrote:
Xoie wrote:
It doesn't surprise me that FFXIVCore failed. If you've ever seen their staff post on the Lodestone, it was obvious they were in it for themselves and had no respect for the community they were supposed to represent and support. And that's not even counting the scandal of selling beta keys for money, etc.

I do feel bad for Eorzeapedia though. Not sure where it went wrong.


Eorzeapedia had more complete information than ZAM. I spent hours and hours updating quests and camp information for XIV on the ZAM forums before I realized Eorzeapedia had most of them already done.

ZAM, Lodestone, Mooglebox, FFXIVPro, FFXIV YG - I used them all. Since the servers went down this and the official forum are the only sites I visit.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 5:12pm by kainsilv


If we could get more people contributing we'd be just as successful as Eorzeapedia. They're a wiki same as us. That being said I hope to be able to announce some awesome things to come soon!


I don't suppose you could offer to give them a home here? Zam has the users they need and they have the talented wiki types Zam needs...
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#29 Jun 03 2013 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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And then you read the PVP thread...


I'm one of those folks responsible for the increased traffic over the past few weeks, but I'm considering a move elsewhere because of the back and forth in that thread, and others. I'm here for the game, not for the grudges.
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#30 Jun 03 2013 at 6:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Xoie wrote:
Wint wrote:
kainsilv wrote:
Xoie wrote:
It doesn't surprise me that FFXIVCore failed. If you've ever seen their staff post on the Lodestone, it was obvious they were in it for themselves and had no respect for the community they were supposed to represent and support. And that's not even counting the scandal of selling beta keys for money, etc.

I do feel bad for Eorzeapedia though. Not sure where it went wrong.


Eorzeapedia had more complete information than ZAM. I spent hours and hours updating quests and camp information for XIV on the ZAM forums before I realized Eorzeapedia had most of them already done.

ZAM, Lodestone, Mooglebox, FFXIVPro, FFXIV YG - I used them all. Since the servers went down this and the official forum are the only sites I visit.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 5:12pm by kainsilv


If we could get more people contributing we'd be just as successful as Eorzeapedia. They're a wiki same as us. That being said I hope to be able to announce some awesome things to come soon!


I don't suppose you could offer to give them a home here? Zam has the users they need and they have the talented wiki types Zam needs...


What do you mean? Anyone is allowed to edit our wiki..
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#31 Jun 03 2013 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Hankshmi wrote:
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And then you read the PVP thread...


I'm one of those folks responsible for the increased traffic over the past few weeks, but I'm considering a move elsewhere because of the back and forth in that thread, and others. I'm here for the game, not for the grudges.



While that thread did get a little out of hand, every forum community I've lurked around has threads like that every now and then. I would assume at the end of that day that we're all here for the game, and hoping for it's eventual success.
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#32 Jun 03 2013 at 6:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wint wrote:
Xoie wrote:
Wint wrote:
kainsilv wrote:
Xoie wrote:
It doesn't surprise me that FFXIVCore failed. If you've ever seen their staff post on the Lodestone, it was obvious they were in it for themselves and had no respect for the community they were supposed to represent and support. And that's not even counting the scandal of selling beta keys for money, etc.

I do feel bad for Eorzeapedia though. Not sure where it went wrong.


Eorzeapedia had more complete information than ZAM. I spent hours and hours updating quests and camp information for XIV on the ZAM forums before I realized Eorzeapedia had most of them already done.

ZAM, Lodestone, Mooglebox, FFXIVPro, FFXIV YG - I used them all. Since the servers went down this and the official forum are the only sites I visit.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2013 5:12pm by kainsilv


If we could get more people contributing we'd be just as successful as Eorzeapedia. They're a wiki same as us. That being said I hope to be able to announce some awesome things to come soon!


I don't suppose you could offer to give them a home here? Zam has the users they need and they have the talented wiki types Zam needs...


What do you mean? Anyone is allowed to edit our wiki..


I was thinking more grand scale like a site merge.
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#33 Jun 03 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Good
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Eorzeapedia was the best for up to date Company,DoH and DoL info to fill in the gaps at Zam.I cant remember anything Forum wise from that site. but i still have my password saved for relaunch. "if it's still there'
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#34 Jun 03 2013 at 7:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I would think they would have to agree to that.

Eorzeapedia split from GamerEscape and while GamerEscape has excellent leadership in the form of @rofldrg I'm not sure who's in charge of Eorzeapedia (other than the contributors).
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#35 Jun 04 2013 at 9:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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When you get people who are passionate about having a very good game to play, spirited discussion and opposing ideas will surface. The key is to actually listen to their ideas and understand the other viewpoint before even posting. If not the discussions will turn into huge attacks on each others character instead of a debate on the discussion. Zam has a good balance though and great mod team, as release gets closer this site will continue to be the premier spot for XIV news and discussion (at least for me).
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#36 Jun 05 2013 at 4:23 AM Rating: Good
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I think the lack of things to talk about has just had people at each other's throats for a little while, I imagine this place will be full of people when the game is released again.
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#37 Jun 05 2013 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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Anyway, with ARR looming, we seem to be getting a bit busier in here again. I expect we'll have even more "spirited" debates once that pesky NDA is lifted.


I'm debating to come in guns blazing or to run and duck for cover. Any time the NDA is lifted on other MMOs, it tends to explode into arguments.
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#38 Jun 05 2013 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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I've generally viewed the official forums as a cesspool of the worst people the fan base has to offer, so I'm sticking to sites life ZAM.
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