Arcanist/Summoner SkillsFollow

Then Yoshi-P broke the rules on the last Live Letter when he talked about it



Well, considering that the MAIN source of dmg for a Summoner will probably be the PET... I don't see how this is an issue.

Also, you probably can't stack Bio and Bio 2, so they really only have 2 DOTs, an effect to spread the DOT, and an Ability to deal dmg based on what DOTs you inflicted. This list doesn't cover pet abilities, of which I'm sure there will be plenty.

Edited, Jun 13th 2013 2:04pm by Louiscool

I don't think there will be DOT only classes. Every class will have auto attack for one, and like it's been said above Carby could theoretically be doing additional damage. Do we even know what the weapon for ARC/SMN is yet?

I can already see the Summoners with worse gear being forbidden to cast Bio so to not gimp the other SMN Fester. So the DoT for Aero doesn't work if two different conjurers cast it? Maybe Bio will be different since it is a primary DoT skill and not a additional effect DoT like Aero.
Also, it is surprising to see that Bio doesn't have an attack down additional effect to it. For a class supposed to focus on debuufs, it sure has few status ailments.

We never had this problem in 1.0

In fact, Thm was originally a DOT only class. There was never a case where 2 Thms was taboo, or any weird elitism over who gets to DOT. Thm had like 5-7 DOTs up at once. I remember doing Darkhold with multiple Thms.

The idea of DoT classes is foreign to most people who haven't played games that have them. Warlock in WoW sounds similar to how Acn/Smn is going to be. It's damage was based around DoTs and Nukes as well as their pet. If Smn damage (and other classes/jobs) are planned to be balanced around the idea of DoT/s always being on the target then they MUST allow duplicate DoTs on enemies or someone's damage will be gimped. It didnt matter too much in most cases in FFXI but in games like WoW and Rift DoTs can make up a huge portion of your damage so they coded the game to give each persons DoT their own unique identifier in the background.

Scenario: I cast Dia on the target (Seraphknight's Dia applied to the target); Demonknight casts Dia on the target (Demonknight's Dia applied to the target). Now, any additional effects (Def down) obviously wouldn't stack. For example: Dia normally causing -10% defense wouldn't suddenly cause -20% defense just because there's 2 Dias on the target, although they both would still have the DoT effect ticking away on the mob. Abilities you use that depend on a specific DoT/debuff or number of DoTs/debuffs on the target would only be effected by YOUR DoTs/debuffs that are on the target.

It's alot easier to see it in action rather than me trying to explain it lol. It'd also be alot safer to change it now rather than somewhere down the line if they were to make any class/job focus on DoT damage (if Acn/Smn and Sch don't already)

So now it makes sense all the pet skills for SCH. I wonder if when you equip the SCH job you get lvl synced back to 30, in case you had Summoner and Arcanist at 50, or you just become a gimped lvl 50 SCH until you do all the quests.

It's already confirmed that the stack limit is character based now, not monster based. In what little of the Beta was played, FATE event monsters displayed multiple Aero stacks upon it during fights. So there's no worries that multiples of a class will weaken their overall output.

I'm torn. I like the Ifrit one, but I can't imagine how they will follow that design with Titan...

Just to verify, each person will have their own separate DoTs on the target. As I've been trying out Marauder I've done a few FATEs and I've seen the skill "Fracture" DoT on the mob as much as 4-5 times. So that essentially confirms that DoTs won't overwrite each other from other people. Which is a good thing, especially since I know somewhere down the line a "Parser" aka "Recount/Skada/etc" will surely be made by someone and I'm sure it'll catch on quickly as many people that I know in FFXI used parses as well as in WoW and Rift. It allows you to effectively know what your damage output is and to know if some is slacking or doing exceptionally well.