bought 1.0 and likely skipping ARR, square wants to hear....Follow

I wouldn't expect leveling dungeons to be all that difficult. Especially when the duty finder exists; this has to be content that's doable by a group of total strangers with minimal coordination.

I expect challenge to come from endgame content, and in a Final Fantasy game I expect some challenging content from the story encounters as well (though once again, not at the very beginning of the game... this is Final Fantasy, not Dark Souls)



Did you read the rest of what I wrote? Because I covered that.

I still see people making up stuff about me and reacting as if it was science. I'm not getting a refund. I had an untouched copy of ffxiv. I sent an email asking about what happens if people are customers of ffxiv but not into ARR. They said to call them, it isn't something they could handle it by email (agreed). I called. I talked to two different people and the call lasted about an hour and a half excluding wait times.

The copy I had was unused. All rights tied to it were never waved. I never asked about my used account at all. The people I spoke to were chill and inquisitive.

There was no anger.
There were no complaints.
We simply had a discussion.

They offered me a copy of Last Remnant PC in exchange for my copy of ffxiv and I gave them my unused code.

I mentioned I was in California because our policies tend to be more liberal than most places. Even if I had spoken about my main account, it would make no difference because their ToS here is worth the paper it is printed on.

Personally, if I were in SE's shoes I would have just pulled the plug and started over. I can't be bothered to dig through years of old threads, but I'm sure someone here could verify that if you needed. I wouldn't be able to justify the costs associated with propping XIV up on a crutch for so long as a monument to failure. I never would have released the game in the state is was in anyway, but if forced to for some reason; I would have stopped service and issued refunds.

Then again, if XIV were under my control there wouldn't be a charge for the client anyway; especially not if I was going to try and charge a monthly subscription fee. Who looks at today's MMO market and what has happened to pretty much every sub based MMO since WoW and thinks "Yeah, I'll charge a subscription fee. It'll be great"?

The OP is talking about a copy of XIV that was never used so use doesn't really have a part here. If it's fair to allow a company 3 years to fix their product, I think it's also fair to allow the customer 3 years plus the normal 30 day return policy most places have to get a refund. Props to SE for asking for feedback though. That was one of the things that stuck out to me when I cancelled my service with WoW. They wanted to know why because they genuinely care about improving their products and services.

Well I'm glad the OP clarified that.

An unopened 1.0 is an entirely different issue. Still my first course of action would be to sell it on eBay or just give it away. No "official" refund was given but SE handled this well enough. Again, charity.

Now that I think about it, If I've ever deserved to get my money back for a game it'd be for XIII, but I digress...(I gave that back to GameStop two days later)
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What you would do might have been the most fair, maybe even best decision, but the irony is, we might have also never seen ARR if it weren't for the Legacy players and the continuation of the game until that point.

1.23 bought SE time to cultivate their new style of leadership and kept the cash flow coming if only for a little while.

And I'm sure there were plenty of refunds given in the beginning as well.

Keeping the game going and limiting refunds was probably the best course of action at the time.

But we'll never know what the best course of action was, all we know now is that a lot of people are happy the way ARR is turning out so far and few aren't.

In the end those who are currently unhappy and just now want a refund for unopened 1.0s total: 1 that we know of. Lol.

In short, my level of caring about this topic really shouldn't be as high as it is. Heck, I usually ignore the "vague OP with random clarification a page or two in after the pot has been stirred" threads.

I guess I'm just hard up for any kind of info since I couldn't get into the beta.

I officially deem this the silly season. (;_;)

We still haven't seen it


Given the time and money spent developing, the maybe 10k subs they maintained for that period were a drop in the bucket. Depending on how many Legacy there are who stick around and play for a while, they'll end up giving it all back anyway. Nevermind the dough they forked over to developers for overtime, money for servers and server upkeep, ect. ect.

If I could remember my password I'd let you play beta on my account. I have no use for it since I'm reserving judgement about adjustments until the game launches.

im still wondering why you are still here, you said it game not for you soooo bye bye?

Fair enough if you don't like it - I just don't think you should be compensated for that. You bought version 1 - you played version 1. You got what you paid for.

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