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Just found this translated Interview Yoshi just did... pretty interesting what they're planning to implement.

[quote =Yoshi P]For Fisher are you thinking of a way to make them useful for other players like other Gatherer/Crafter classes?
Yoshida: In previous FFXIV they were used in recipes. Like requiring fish scales for a part of armor. As a game it's good to have it but when making a game it's easy to fall into making all classes the same "This class can do this so this class should be able to do the same". This balancing, making all of them the same would be boring, and to make something more complicated (more parts) would cause inconvenience to the players. I don't want to put in the games foundation where it forces player to do stuff (make it more complicated).

That is why we haven't released Fisher in beta test phase 3, Fisher is a class where people really want to enjoy roleplay fishing, but at same time you'll need to choose the fishing rod, bait, setup, and think about the types of water, I was really undecided till the end but if you drop a line in cloud of sea you will be able to fish living in the clouds. Also fishing in quicksand. At first I said it's No Go but they really wanted to do it, they said just being water will make it too small (scale), they pushed saying this is Fantasy (laugh). So I told them if they can make it very persuasive then it's OK, the person in charge is working hard at making the data. I'm cheering them on![/quote]

I prefer fish as food and/or gil, I always thought that as armor they were a bit silly... maybe fish oil for lube on moving parts weapons or scales from GIANT fish or sharks on armor, crabs and such for ornamentation... that makes sense at least. Then again my personal preference isn't very valid if we're fishing in quicksand ^.^

Fishing in clouds? WTF? Yoshida's initial assessment was the correct one. It may be a fantasy but not everything has to be outlandish and goofy.

Edited, Jun 26th 2013 9:00pm by BrokenFox

Flying fish and wind crystals. :D

~laughs~ I forgot pre ARR you guys were fishing up crystals. Will that still be in effect? Fishing may yet still have a monetary/crafting purpose if so.

Edited, Jun 26th 2013 9:43pm by ShindaUsagi

I have no confirmation, but I don't see why not. All of the harvesting classes are supposed to be able to get crystals, as far as I can remember, and Fishing + Alchemy used to be *the* way to get a bunch of them.

I feel like this is a loose translation? Maybe this has nothing to with clouds would be my initial assumption.

Edited, Jun 26th 2013 11:41pm by supermegazeke

I loved fishing in FFXI, am a little upset that it sounds like fishing might not be as lucrative or worthwhile doing as the other crafts/gathering. I was very upset before I got into beta. The gathering that I've been able to do so far seems like it will be perfect for me to take over as my relaxing activity, but with the added bonus that you also progress as you're doing it and making money/materials for crafting.

Fishing in the clouds, though? At least we'd be able to tout that as a UNIQUE feature of FFXIV right?!?!

If anyone thinks this is even going to put a dent in the bot industry they're just wrong...

Botters make a living off this... If they take away fishing they'll just move to the next thing.

To remove RMT they would need to make a game that only uses tokens to get items and have zero economy. Your kinda wrong on the gathering mkaing no money. You need items gathered once you get high enough in DoH classes. Plus everyone will need crystals and there will be a market for them. Cooks need fire crystals but there from Mining and thats a normal trend for this game that the gathering prof for the DOH wont give the correct crystals .

Also with the cross Doh items some people will either have the option to lvl that said class or buy the item they need form the market. RMT could just farm crystals all day and make money. So I dont see why they killed fishing I always loved to fish in games but im not a achevment person so If thats all fishing does than no thanks.

I agree there are actions you can take to help put a damper in RMT, which they are undoubtedly taking. But does largely singling out one particular craft help with this issue in the grand scheme of problem? I would venture to say no, and if it does, it's going to be a marginal solution at best.

What's hilarious and ironic about this WHOLLLEEE situation for me personally, is that every piece of content is made to make everyone more equal to help eradicate the imbalances of MMOs... yet the ONE job I really care about gets nerfed because Yoshi says he doesn't want ever job to be the same... Lol (I rarely use this saying but...) F..... M..... L.....

Ohhh well no use crying over spilt milk until it's actually fallen off the counter I suppose!

Edit:

Here's a thought for fishing... Make it so that catching awesome fish can give you direct access to awesome gear like LuShangs or even battle gear (after earning that is)... The catch? Make it Rare/Ex. Keeps fishing useful and worth doing... TOTALLY eliminates RMT in the fishing portion of the game.

I offer this solution because the only alternative at this point seems to be that fishing is going in the direction of being a casual event with little reward besides personal gain. People throw the word "relaxing" around so much with fishing that I believe SE has interpreted this too literally. No one will find it relaxing if there is minimal gain to be had from it.



Edited, Jun 27th 2013 10:51am by Parathyroid

I'm not sure about the Cloud comment but I do like the Quicksand idea...thinking outside the box. You could use some kind of insect bait and fish up an Antlion or Sand Crab...and if you get too close you should fall in and lose your bait!

I'm sure the system won't suck... but in any MMO (or any endeavor of any kind) the benefit must equal the cost. If we are to spend time doing something, there must be a reward. If the reward is "catching my biggest fish I've ever caught," I'd rather go down to the pond in real life... If it's getting new gear and other in game items, then sure it will be great.