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#1 Jul 11 2013 at 8:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you are looking for some tips on the basic and advanced targeting functions in FFXIV:ARR, you are in the right place. This first section will be dedicated to the PS3 targeting options. There are also some basic tips for beginners that may help make your Movement Controls and Hotbars more functional.


The PS3 User Interface:

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Basic tips for the User Interface:
Pressing Select will make your cursor enter the UI chat options, pressing Select a second time will take you to the UI's on-screen Mission logs, and pressing Select a third time will put your cursor on the UI mini-map options.
Pressing the Square button will open the Map.
To Zoom the camera in and out, Press and Hold L1 and then use the Right Thumb-stick to Zoom.



Getting to the "Character Configuration" Menu:

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Press the START button, then use the D-pad to go to Settings > Character Configuration


PS3 Basics: Movement

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The very top choices are "Standard" and "Legacy" I suggest you try both of these out to see what you prefer. The "Standard" option allows you to set the camera Auto-adjust to "Only when Moving", which is the default mode for most games.



PS3 Basics:Targeting

The default targeting for the PS3 is done by using the D-pad.

Out of Combat (While your weapon is sheathed):
Press left/right to cycle through everything.

In combat (While your Weapon is drawn):
Press Left/Right on the D-pad to cycle through Enemies.
Press Up/Down on the D-pad to cycle thru Party members.

Note: Attacking an enemy will automatically draw your weapon. Your weapon will automatically be sheathed 3 seconds after battle ends.
Also, casting any beneficial spell, such as Cure or Protect, while you are not in party will automatically target yourself.



PS3 Basics:Target Cycling

By holding down L1 you can cycle through targeting settings by pressing the Triangle, Circle, Square and X buttons.
L1+Triangle = All
L1+Circle = Enemies
L1+Square= Friends
L1+X=Party

The current targeting setting is shown in TEXT just above your character's HP Bar.

I don't suggest using these right away, because the default targeting will do everything you need. Setting these is more likely to limit you from targeting something you want with normal Left/Right (Out of Combat) Targeting. I have mentioned these here because you might find that you cannot target something, and the most likely culprit is that you have accidentally changed the Cycling Filter to "Enemies" or "Party". For example, while you are in town, having these settings active won't let you target anything.

Press L1+Triangle to reset to "ALL" if you are having trouble.


PS3 Advanced: Targeting

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By pressing R1 you will enter the second tab labeled "Targeting". The very top option can be set to automatically lock-on to enemies you engage. You can try this, but I suggest leaving it off so you have freedom to run around or escape. Most classes can use their abilities while moving.

For melee characters, leaving the default "Automatically Face Target when using actions" set is a good idea. If you are a Caster or an Archer you may want to experiment with turning this off, as you can still use ranged abilities and instant casts while running away.



Edited, Aug 15th 2013 9:39pm by Gnu
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PS3 Advanced: Targeting Filters

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Back in the menu, by pressing R1 again you will enter the third tab labeled "Filters". In the top area you see two main menus, "While weapon is sheathed." and "While weapon is drawn."

You really want to leave "While weapon is sheathed" set to everything as it is by default. You may want to add additional targeting options to "While weapon is drawn".
Please note: You can still target party members and yourself by pressing UP/DOWN even when your weapon is drawn. So there is no reason to also add "Party Members" to your filter here. You may very well want to add "NPC/Objects", so that you can snag a chest or interact with an object during a battle.



PS3 Super Advanced: Target Cycling Filters

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Here you can customize the cycling filters for your L1+button combos. Basically you can change what "All" and "Party" and "Enemies" and "Friends" will be able to select while cycling targets. I highly suggest leaving this option off until you:
A.) Start actually using the regulars filters to assist your target cycling
B.) Discover that one of the filters is missing or includes a type of target that you want included/excluded.



PS3 Basics: Hotbars

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The PS3 only has one type of hotbar available, which I will refer to as the controller cross-bar.
Basically, you Press-and-Hold L2 and R2 in order to access respective the cross-bars, and then press either the buttons or d-pad to select a skill.
Further, you can swap out your entire crossbar set for another by Pressing and holding R1.

You can set 8 abilities to the L1 cross-bar and 8 to the R1 cross-bar, and you get 8 total cross bar SETS that you can cycle thru with R1.



PS3 Advanced: Hotbar Toggle

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The 4th icon down under "Character Configuration" looks just like the cross-bar on screen. Select this icon, and then press R1 to tab over to "Cross".

If your hand is getting tired from hours of holding R2 and L2, you can try setting your cross-bar to "Toggle". My experience with this is that I often leave it toggled on accidentally when I am trying to accomplish other things. This means each press of square, x, circle or triangle is trying to set off an ability because the cross-bar is still active. Some players have said this feature is a life-saver, and after some getting-used-to it works like a charm.

The third option is "Mixed", which means that quickly pressing R2 or L2 will toggle the cross-bar on/off. However, if you HOLD R2 or L2 for an extended period of time, such as an entire battle, when you let go it will automatically turn off, as if the cross-bar was set to "Hold".



Final tips for PS3 users:

I highly suggest that all PS3 users get themselves a USB mouse! You will very much want to use the mouse to drag-and-drop abilities into your cross-bars, and to drag-and drop inventory items onto your character. Inventory and Character management is just a ton easier with a mouse!

Note: You can Hold Down L1 and Press the Right Stick Button to enter the PS3 controller Mouse-mode. (But really, go buy a real USB mouse.)



I hope this guide has been helpful for PS3 users who are learning to use the UI and targeting options. Please forgive the quality of the pictures in this section. Without a way to take screenshots I simply used my wife's Canon Rebel and uploaded the pictures. I'm afraid they are a bit tilted despite my best efforts. I plan to reserve the next post for the PC guide, which will take a bit more time to complete. As always, I hope that other posters here will contribute to this thread with corrections, additions or their own tips for making targeting easier.

Edited, Jul 11th 2013 11:05pm by Gnu
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PC Basics: User Interface

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This is the default, basic PC User Interface. Note that there are two additional groups of Icons in the lower right hand corner:

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The groups of dots at the top indicate:
Green dots indicate equipped items on the Character Screen. In fact, you can click on this group of dots and the Character Screen will open.
Blue Dots indicate Items in Bags. You have 4 bags with 25 spaces a storage each. Clicking on each group of blue dots will open the corresponding bag.

The bottom group of icons shown here includes (in order):
Character, Journal, Duty Finder, Armory Chest, Personal Logs, Social Lists, Map, Teleport, Signs,
Stance, Actions & Traits, Timers, Inventory, Free Company, Linkshells, Return, Emotes, System Menu



PC Basics: User Interface Customization

The first thing you want to do is change the overall Screen Resolution size to best fit your monitor or TV.

Find this screen under System Configuration > Display Settings.

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If your PC beta version started as mine did, you started the game running in Windowed mode. This is where you can select Full Screen if you choose, and also where you can select the highest resolution setting your display can support. Also note that pressing ALT+TAB functions perfectly in FFXIV:ARR, and will take you out to the desktop from Full Screen mode at any time.

Next, find the Chat Font Size under Character Configuration > Log Window Settings.

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The ability to change the Chat Font Size is critical to making your overall UI fit nicely on your screen. PIck a font size that is as small as possible while still being easily readable. This will allow your chat boxes to fit the maximum amount visible text on the screen at once.


Bonus: Click Below for a 1280x720 PC User Interface Screenshot. (I guess ZAM's image hosting auto-sizes 1920x1080 down to 1280x720.)

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Edited, Jul 12th 2013 10:32am by Gnu
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PC Basics: HUD Customization and Hotbars

The PC version allows more Hotbars to be on screen at once. Under System Configuration > Hotbars you can set additional Hotbars to always be on screen.

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Here you can see the option to have up to 10 hotbars on screen. In this screenshot you can see I have turned on #9 and #10, which I've conveniently located next to where the Party List will be. (I like to put Heal and Buff spells on these bars, positioned less than an inch from where I click to target players.)

You can also see here that the PC version allows you to separate the various Chat Channels and dock them on separate parts of the screen. You do this buy clicking-and-holding the mouse button on the chat channel you want to separate and dragging it to another part of the screen. As you can see here, I like to separate Battle from General, so that battle spam does not push chat and System messages off the screen.

By selecting System Menu > Hud Layout you will see the follow screen:

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This allows for moving of every HUD box to a custom location. They cannot all be independently re-sized the way the chat boxes can. Note that the HUD Customization feature is available on both the PC and PS3 versions.



PC Basics: Targeting

This next section is dedicated to targeting options on PC. Note that all of the targeting options in the PS3 targeting section above are available on the PC by choosing the "Gamepad Mode" from the Character Configuration. The additional options are as follows:

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Note the Enemy List that I have currently located between the hotbars and the chat boxes. The Enemy List will include any enemy that currently has aggro on you or your party. You can simply click on anyone in this list to target them.


PC Basics: Mouse Options

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This image shows you where to find your custom mouse options. I highly suggest leaving these on the default settings for now.
Enable clicking on self - I recommended you leave this off, because targeting yourself will occur automatically whenever you cast a beneficial spell or ability. You really don't want to be in your own way when you try to pick up an item or interact with the world.
Enable clicking on field to remove target - Clicking on the screen to clear your current target is often useful. Some players prefer to NEVER lose their target until the target is dead.

(There are just a few more things I plan to add to this thread concerning important targeting Keybinds that are not set to anything by default.)

This concludes the PC and PS3 Targeting/User Interface Guide. I really hope this helps new players learn some things they did not know, or perhaps provide answers for issues they were struggling with. I really do hope that all of the options for PC users appear eventually for PS3 users. Since adding a mouse and keyboard to the PS3 makes the input devices essentially identical, I don't see why the UI options cannot also be made to be identical. Improve the PS3 options so that PS3 players could even use use only a mouse and keyboard if they want!

Best of luck on your adventures in Eorzea!

Edited, Jul 12th 2013 10:34am by Gnu
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We should repurpose your transition sticky to start keeping track of this stuff until certain site change are done so this kind of thing doesn't get lost.
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Wint wrote:
We should repurpose your transition sticky to start keeping track of this stuff until certain site change are done so this kind of thing doesn't get lost.


I can add the links from his post or you can reorganize. Either way just let me know and I'll try to mess with it over the weekend or something.
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This guide is fantastic, thanks for putting this together.

One question I remember we discussed yesterday and I didn't see an answer to in this guide, and maybe I'm just blind, is how do you target the mob right in front of you using the PS3 controller?

I know I saw something about using F11 on a keyboard to target the closest enemy, but it would be nice to set it so that you auto-target the nearest mob in front of you automatically too (for those without keyboards on their PS3).

Thanks!
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I don't like the Target Cycling b.c you switch it to "All Enemies" it only stays like that till you find a target then will go right back to the default Combat/Non-Combat mode.

I should be able to L1+O and have my targeting stay that way till I change it
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Hairspray wrote:
This guide is fantastic, thanks for putting this together.

One question I remember we discussed yesterday and I didn't see an answer to in this guide, and maybe I'm just blind, is how do you target the mob right in front of you using the PS3 controller?

I know I saw something about using F11 on a keyboard to target the closest enemy, but it would be nice to set it so that you auto-target the nearest mob in front of you automatically too (for those without keyboards on their PS3).

Thanks!


The thing I was thinking of when we talked yesterday was "Auto Lock-on", which actually is not very helpful. It's actually easier to acquire the target in front of you with a controller anyway.

On PS3, you just press X once to acquire the target directly in front of you, and X again to start attacking.

Take a look at the arrow that appears over the head of the enemy when you first target them. When your auto-attack is actually ON, there will be a little two-arrow-circle-icon above the regular targeting arrow. This icon appears to indicate when your auto-attack is toggled on.

You can toggle your auto-attack on/off by just pressing X during battle.
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Wow! You saved a SE customer. I was gonna drop out of the game because of wrist fatigue, but changing to 'toggle' really
did the trick.

Targeting is still an issue. I use a keyboard, just to press the Tab button. When you are in 'toggle' mode you can't target
with the d-buttons. Its a real pain, and confusing to have to toggle on and off just to target. but really, having to use a keyboard
to get around it is ridiculous.

Thanks again.
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Wow! You saved a SE customer. I was gonna drop out of the game because of wrist fatigue, but changing to 'toggle' really
did the trick.

Targeting is still an issue. I use a keyboard, just to press the Tab button. When you are in 'toggle' mode you can't target
with the d-buttons. Its a real pain, and confusing to have to toggle on and off just to target. but really, having to use a keyboard
to get around it is ridiculous.

Thanks again.


Glad to help! I was looking fore a solution to the issue you are having. (I've abandoned the controller for the same reason). The best I could come up with is to make a User Macro to target the nearest enemy, and then set that to your cross-bar.

To do this, go to System Menu >User Macros. Then select any of the empty slots, select an Icon for your macro and type in /targetenemy

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Now just go to your cross-bar and set that User Macro to one of the slots.

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I did this and was able to at least leave the toggle on and still use the Macro to target the nearest enemy. What we really, really need is for "cycle through enemies nearest to farthest" to be a Macro text command.

The other two /target Macro text commands for available in beta are:
/targetnpc - Target nearest NPC
/battletarget - Target nearest enemy that is attacking you

Hopefully expanded Macro text commands will be available soon.

Edited, Jul 13th 2013 3:41am by Gnu
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Thanks Gnu. This guide is great. I have been using mixed for the cross bar toggle and I think it Might be the best choice for me. Still need to get comfortable with it.
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There are now two new commands in the Actions and Traits > General:

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Target Forward
Target Back


These can be added to your Cross-bar. You can also make a User Macro for Nearest Enemy:

To do this, go to System Menu >User Macros. Then select any of the empty slots, select an Icon for your macro and type in /targetenemy

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Now just go to your cross-bar and set that User Macro to one of the slots.

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Now you have Nearest Enemy, Next Enemy and Last Enemy, as easy to use buttons on your Cross Bar.

(More Edits and some reformatting to come as Phase 4 winds down.)

Edited, Aug 17th 2013 11:22am by Gnu
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I'm playing in PS3 and find targeting in FATE is very difficult because of other players in the area. When I try to pick an enemy I have to cycle through all the other players. I tried using target filler "enemies"" with limited success because it always automatically goes back to "All" for some reason. What is the best way for targeting in FATE?
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I'm using a 360 controller on PC and playing a tank is ****. The d-pad targetting is just not efficient enough at all. It's always targetting stuff far off into the distance. Not to mention Carbuncles, but I think I was able to filter that out.

Just a word of advice... if you're playing on a controller and want to be efficient you might want to stick with DPS or heals.

Also, why are minions even targettable to begin with? Vanity pets should be graphic only and not even be targettable/have names. They just clutter the screen up.

Anyways, thanks for the guide.

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I played Gladiator through all dungeons and storyline in Beta with a 360 controller. I had no issues targeting. I prefer it over mouse/kb.

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There are a few controller options that were tricky to find but here they are:

L1+R2 (or R1+L2) is another method of tab targetting. As a CNJ I have found this invaluable in being able to get credit in fates.

L1+Select - Toggles the UI on/off

L1+Start - Take a screenshot
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Great guide... default targeting sucks..
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Gonna go ahead and add some PC targeting since i play on a laptop (with a full num pad) and hate using the touch pad:

Num-4 / Num-6 (cycle left/ right through targets)
X - filter available target (default is hold to hide player characters)

Combine X + Num - 4/6 for quick targeting
Can also adjust it so pressing x cycles through target filters. AKA press x then the only thing you can target PC, press again and it goes to NPC, then Monsters, etc etc
num-8/num-2 (cycle up/down through party members)

num-0 confirm/select, useful since my right hand sits on the num pad

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One of the most helpful things I have found for gamepad play and bar management is crossbar set selection customization:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1lc103/

In the pictured example (bar 1 and 3 selected under weapon drawn), if you draw your weapon and spam R1 then it will cycle between the selected bars, this case it will switch between 1 and 3 without the need for pressing another button with R1 (which you can still do to access any bar). So if you click boxes 1, 3, 5 and 7 under weapon drawn, draw your weapon and spam R1 it will cycle between 1,3,5,7.

You can set up a set of bars to cycle through when out of combat as well. I tend to use 2-3 bars for combat with one bar just for marking as a tank and then I add an extra bar for out of combat to call choco, teleport/return, put main commands I use a lot like hunting log and duty finder. Then I can just spam R1 to get the bar I need.

If you mark everything up before the pull you can set your combat bars to 2 bars and only cycle back and forth between them just by pressing R1.

Bar cycling + target filtering, hard/soft targeting and assist macros has made healing with gamepad very simple. I can keep the tank hard targeted and just assist off it to attack or soft target with d-pad (left/right for baddies, up/down for goodies). With the long GCD I find myself having plenty of time to target and make my choices.
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Greatly appreciated ... now all I need is a macro 1 for ps3
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I need to read this when I get a clear head. I've habitually had targeting problems using a ps3 controller on the pc, because as the tank i have issues with L1/R1 for switching targets during fights. If I want to move and switch targets iwth L1, suddenly auto-run is enabled. Similarly if I want to zoom out, i also just switched targets 4 times.
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Also if you want to add more hotbars you press and hold r1 (the button that toggles hotbars) and options will come up above your hotbar the numbers stand for a hotbar. If you don't have hotbar 3 select 3 and you will get hotbar 3 empty and ready for actions to be placed. I hope this helps.
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#28 Nov 22 2013 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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for me on PS3 the biggest issue in fates isn't targetting its that the game loads all the player characters and then the minions and chocabos before the mobs...in a lot of fates before those load they are dead.

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