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#1 Jul 26 2013 at 10:15 PM Rating: Default
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I know this isn't FFXI-2 but does anyone feel like the ARR music kinda sucks when compared to FFXI?

I mean this is an ARR town theme... it sounds so ridiculous and over the top. Like something from a movie trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Z0W_71vE4 It doesn't sound like a town theme at all.

compared to a FFXI town theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iefGrRfDOPY which fits perfectly, represents the setting well, and isn't obnoxious. It sounds like a pleasant town theme.

Edited, Jul 27th 2013 12:17am by Killua125
#2 Jul 26 2013 at 10:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Correct me if I'm wrong but, ARR's Soundtrack didn't involve Nobuo Uematsu did it? I know he was involved in 1.0 but the musical themes feel very different.
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I know this isn't FFXI-2


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UltKnightGrover wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
I know this isn't FFXI-2


Smiley: lol


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Edited, Jul 27th 2013 1:19am by Killua125
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I don't think the music sucks, I like it and if I want I can turn it off or down to listen to Teamspeak buddies or put on a track on my docking station. I was so happy they kept the one in Thanalan.

Edited, Jul 27th 2013 5:25am by EdyNOTB
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#6 Jul 26 2013 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you picked like the one bad example. This should be the title screen music... FFXI always love the blaring horns before you log in, lol. Overall, the music in FFXIV : ARR is great, imo. The surrounding areas and other towns seem to fit well for me.
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I think ff14 has the better soundtrack. I don't think I cared for 11's soundtrack at all until wings of the goddess. With the exception of the battle themes and 1 or 2 themes from the Chains of Promathia expansion.

I mean, to me its a huge difference.. its HUGE, one major thing I hated about 11 was the quality of music to me (meaning imo) was not reminiscent of final fantasy (chocobo theme is the obvious exception). I never bothered to actually listen to a theme outside of playing the game until A Crystalline Prophecy came out. I can tell you the one reason I pre-ordered the collectors edition for 14 was for the soundtrack.

Uldah's theme is very high key for a theme you may have to listen to for several years I admit but it gets you PUMPED. There was nothing better to me than doing a storyline and hearing Uldah's town theme. That being said there's actually a night time theme in Uldah as well which is very much low key and sets the mellow laid back tone perfectly.

Anyway .. having played final fantasy xi for nine years and being from bastok (the town theme you compared to Uldah's) there's no comparison so far in the soundtracks. Final Fantasy XIV's is much better than 11's to me.
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Killua125 wrote:
UltKnightGrover wrote:
Killua125 wrote:
I know this isn't FFXI-2


Smiley: lol


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Now, now. Don't act ignorant.

You blast the game when it uses inspirations from other games.
You blast the game when it doesn't.

You're a player that will never be happy with "A Realm Reborn". Sorry!



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#9 Jul 27 2013 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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that town music reminds me of the town music in FF12 where you start off the game. i liked that music.

I think the music is fine. It's definatley more lively than ul'dah in 1.0 was.
#10 Jul 27 2013 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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FFXI's music is good, but after repeat listens, years later, a majority of the music is rather simple. I really think there's some nostalgia bias here.

I liked most of 1.0's music which was all done by Uematsu, but didn't really care for the battle music. And admittedly (by me) it wasn't his best work.

2.0's music, even the Ul'dah themes were immediately nostalgic. They are also more complex as well. I also like how there are day and night themes. The only complaint I have is that the music fades or doesn't repeat in certain areas.

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I might like the Bastok theme more especially since it was my hometown, but what does that mean? I personally think that it's pure nostalgia. Objectively the Bastok theme reminds me more of a "newsroom" theme more than anything.

Both themes represent "hustle and bustle" (though the Bastok theme is a bit faster) and I think both do a good job of relaying that. The Ul'dah theme is a bit more magical and has a bit more depth with the night version.
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ARR has a better fitting soundtrack. The overall feel of the soundtrack lends itself to being part of the franchise very well and did a much better job than 1.0 did. The battle musics themselves are really well done and usually "click" in the situations they're used in.

...except that it has some really terrible samples in comparison to FFXI. Oh sure, they're a higher quality than FFXI's but it lacks a lot of punch and preciseness. There's too much reverb and it ends up sounding like hearing through rainfall or a shower: you can definitely hear a really good track, yet it's hard to try to focus on most parts. When you hear two songs played after one-another even from 1.0 the difference is really startling: a trash pack with normal fight music in a dungeon (ARR music samples) and then see the cutscene with Uematsu's music (tastes aside, the samples are fairly sharp and precise like FFXI's pre-Adoulin).

Sure, FFXI had great music, but outside of a few pieces here and there it lead to me just turning off the music after a few days of returning because they're pretty basic themes. ARR looks to keep my interest a lot more (and ironically because they're positional/time themes and not zone themes that loop forever) and it sucks that the samples are inferior in terms of clarity.

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I think you picked like the one bad example. This should be the title screen music... FFXI always love the blaring horns before you log in, lol. Overall, the music in FFXIV : ARR is great, imo. The surrounding areas and other towns seem to fit well for me.


Ok, you can turn down the volume of the music but be careful when you log out because if you're not prepared you'll end up with A HEADACHE ON THE CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN OH HELP IT'S DRUMS AND TRUMPETS AT FULL BLAST LOUD NOISES.

Edited, Jul 27th 2013 5:38am by Viertel
#12 Jul 27 2013 at 5:07 AM Rating: Good
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While Ul'dah during the day does seem a bit over the top, Ul'dah by night is magical.

http://youtu.be/CXeIpkkia_Q

I think the day theme matches the city well. It's the city of opportunity. Where coin talks and anyone can supposedly make a name for themselves. I'd expect some level of fanfare and that's what the day theme is.
#13 Jul 27 2013 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Killua125 wrote:
I know this isn't FFXI-2 but does anyone feel like the ARR music kinda sucks when compared to FFXI?

I mean this is an ARR town theme... it sounds so ridiculous and over the top. Like something from a movie trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Z0W_71vE4 It doesn't sound like a town theme at all.

compared to a FFXI town theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iefGrRfDOPY which fits perfectly, represents the setting well, and isn't obnoxious. It sounds like a pleasant town theme.

Edited, Jul 27th 2013 12:17am by Killua125

I like the music personally. I found myself humming outside the game as a matter of fact.

The song you're still singing however is definitely far beyond bad.
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#14 Jul 27 2013 at 6:54 AM Rating: Good
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I loved FFXI music (have bought a number of XI soundtracks that I still listen to in the car.)

But FFXIV is better by far. The in-game music has a more symphonic feel, less synthesized than XI's was.

I do differ on the outside world, to me the areas already feel smaller than in XI. But one of the things that really made me feel "out in the wilderness" in the older title was entering a zone far from town and hearing nothing but the sound of wind and animals. I wouldn't be adverse to some quiet areas far from civilization in XIV.
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I might lean towards XI only because it's seared into my head after so many years of hearing it. I find myself humming/whistling the songs from time to time even. But I've enjoyed the music of ARR very much so far. Even the Superman song doesn't really bother me that much Smiley: laugh I'm sure after a while I'll catch myself humming/whistling to the ARR soundtrack too.
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#16 Jul 27 2013 at 7:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Both soundtracks seem equally strong. FFXI had Zi'tah, Ronfaure, Sandoria, Bastok, Sarutabaruta (that's just off the top of my head) that all were stuck in my head for years. As for ARR I absolutely love all three starter town soundtracks, and haven't heard a world song where I thought.."this is terrible". I just hope they keep the music when you're making your way torwards Castrum Novum, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-msaZyGYuc

The 1 min mark in that song just makes me think, F*!# yeah!
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Anyone else just simply love Hakku Mannor music? I need a loop of it heh.

http://youtu.be/Kbr_h_d5g2Q?t=6m23s

Edited, Jul 27th 2013 9:16am by silverhope
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I'm just glad that Uematsu is not involved, or only minimally involved, with ARR's music. Especially after 1.0.

I know I've beaten that horse several times now (I actually remember one case of downvote oblivion for it on a thread I started months and months ago, and I hardly ever keep track of that), but what he did for 1.0 was just ... not ... good. If the music was decent, it was wholly unfitting of the environment or theme. It says a lot to me when I would sooner listen to the same open field battle music that plays over most every zone in ARR right now instead of the three individual songs that he put out for Limsa's, Gridania's, and Ul'dah's regions.

Uematsu has had something of a synthpop feel to his stuff when it comes to those sort of dramatic or combat-driven situations since the PSOne era, and that's all well and good for a game like VII, or VIII, or X. But it never fit with the feel of 1.0, and I don't think his style or method would fit in well with ARR either, were he suddenly given lead composing duties.

I think I heard someone mention once that he may not have had much direction given to him in regards to the sort of music they were looking for in 1.0 before having to compose the majority of it, so I don't know. Either way, ARR as a whole is an upgrade, and I'm glad he's off doing something else and leaving this one to the other composers at Square-Enix this time around.

(... though I'll admit that I liked Original Ul'dah better than ARR Ul'dah. It has more of a, in my opinion, fitting bazaar music sort of appeal to it.)
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Mizuta set out to create tracks that wouldn't get old after repeatedly listening to them. Soken aimed to go with the, well, theme of ARR, which is obviously "reborn," from what I can tell. Lively, entertaining, fitting for each environment and so forth. When I think about it that way, I appreciate the different musical talents that went into both soundtracks. There are some songs in XI that I downright did not like at all (San d'Oria, Whitegate) but they fit the zones, so I had to get used to them. I went everywhere there was to go in phase 3 and didn't find any songs that I outwardly disliked. The song that plays in Eastern La Noscea around the entrance to Brayflox Longstop and Raincatcher Gully is amazing. There is a link up on YouTube but I believe it breaks NDA, beta rip two months ago.
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They removed all those videos last week.
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Yep, I know who reported those videos as well as the fan recreations. Anyway, I personally like XI's music more because it feels like it was made to fit the atmosphere better, the fact they're choosing to make every single dungeon pure silence outside of battle music makes me dislike the music in ARR simply because I'll have to hear the same 30 second loop over and over if I do the same dungeon more than once. I haven't played a FF game yet that only gave you fragmented music.

Though given the game they're copying to attract more mainstream players, I suppose it makes sense. Only a few pieces of ARR music is nice and it's sad that you only hear the few nice ones for seconds.
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Most XI zones had no music at all. Especially in the vanilla areas.
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I really like the 2.0 soundtrack. I wasnt too into xi music so iplayed that game with the music on mute lol then I played my own music through iTunes
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XIV's music doesn't hold a candle to XI's tracks. I think I'd have trouble putting the best song in XIV against the worst song in XI and coming up with any other conclusion. Not to mention the piano collections and various fan remixes... not even close. Not a dig against XIV or their music producers, but XI was pretty special in that regard.
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XIV's music doesn't hold a candle to XI's tracks. I think I'd have trouble putting the best song in XIV against the worst song in XI and coming up with any other conclusion. Not to mention the piano collections and various fan remixes... not even close. Not a dig against XIV or their music producers, but XI was pretty special in that regard.


Fan remixes hold no water. ARR hasn't even been released yet. I love XI but things like this take time. Comments like this conclude that XI is your comfort blanket. It's a different game and the soundtrack is good.
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Hopefully FFXI's composers are brought back for some songs.

I know this track was much later in FFXI's career, but I really like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavbAcbJOsI
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Yeah, Naoshi Mizuta is supposed to have a few tracks in the game. I want to say he composed this track. Not 100% certain, though.

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Music is tough to offer a opinion on since it's so subjective.

But listening to some tracks in FFXIV versus FFXI, I can't help but notice some differences.

First, the sound of FFXIV is a lot more complex. There's a greater variety of instruments and even some vocals slipped in here and there. But I think the "forgettable" nature of the background music is actually by design. FFXI music almost takes over if you let it. The San D'Orian music proudly blares its bagpipes in defiance of the encroaching Orcs; the Xarcarbard music is a lot more subtle, and yet leaves you with a sense of the wintry horrors lurking about.

The music in FFXIV, on the other hand, whispers the ambiance of your environment without trying to distract you. You can't listen to the tracks of the Black Shroud and not get the sense of that you're traveling through a magical place. But it's also meant to act only as a means to set that mood, not serve as an anthem you'd play at a soccer match. It's a better quality in the sense that you might not mind leaving FFXIV music running in the background whereas after a few dozen loops in Sandy, that volume bar suddenly looks like it needs to be dragged down a few notches.

On the other hand, I think that FFXI's style has an edge in combat music. It may be because they didn't want FFXIV's combat music to be so jarringly different than it's background music, but it almost ends up taking away from the experience by being far too milquetoast. In FFXI, even a battle with a bunny is an epic experience, and I think that stays true to how combat is usually handled in the franchise.

Even so, I think there is a lot of potential in FFXIV's style. I'm glad to hear they are giving new tracks a try; maybe this will give them a chance to set the tone just right.
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Waiting to really judge, personally. XI had some okay stuff, but it also had a lot of bad stuff. The matter of dominance over ambiance also seems to be issue for some in the MMO sphere. And at the risk of some fanboy rage, I've also been of the mind that Uematsu hasn't really stepped into the more recent eras with his synthetic, often MIDI-like choice of instrumentation. It worked in the SNES days because we had no choice with tech. As of now, the only limit to music is how much the composer is willing to synthesize or actually record live.

Had I the choice in creating the ultimate soundtrack for a game, it'd probably follow a few of these standards. First being every zone would have a day and night track. Second is that every zone would have a combat track influenced by its zone theme. I'd try to avoid electronic sounds as often as possible. I'd break the stereotype that desert themes need some kind of annoying wind instrument. Primary characters would obviously get some themes and maybe some variants depending on what goes on. I'd try not to fall back to one song being the song for conveying a certain emotion (which could involve ties to the zone theme in this case). There would never be outright silence in any area. If there's some kind of alarm/escape track, you can bet your *** I wouldn't allow some annoying buzzer to blast over it, either. There's probably more I could add to this, but in the end I'd need to know more about what I'd be working with.

Of recent games I played, Xenoblade probably had the best soundtrack. It does the day/night thing for a lot of zones, and while it does electronic stuff, it's fairly good and not out of place since it isn't a medieval setting. There's a lot of good syncing with the environments, too.
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XIV's music doesn't hold a candle to XI's tracks. I think I'd have trouble putting the best song in XIV against the worst song in XI and coming up with any other conclusion. Not to mention the piano collections and various fan remixes... not even close. Not a dig against XIV or their music producers, but XI was pretty special in that regard.


Fan remixes hold no water. ARR hasn't even been released yet. I love XI but things like this take time. Comments like this conclude that XI is your comfort blanket. It's a different game and the soundtrack is good.


My taste in music is based solely on what appeals to me and has nothing at all to do with providing comfort or security. No idea where you're coming from with that statement Smiley: lol

I never said or implied that the XIV soundtrack was bad, just that none of it is as good. Again, it's my personal opinion. FWIW, there are many game soundtracks I'd put ahead of FFXI. Just because I enjoy them more than the next doesn't mean the rest of them are bad. I don't see how you'd come to that conclusion.
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XIV's music doesn't hold a candle to XI's tracks. I think I'd have trouble putting the best song in XIV against the worst song in XI and coming up with any other conclusion. Not to mention the piano collections and various fan remixes... not even close. Not a dig against XIV or their music producers, but XI was pretty special in that regard.


Fan remixes hold no water. ARR hasn't even been released yet. I love XI but things like this take time. Comments like this conclude that XI is your comfort blanket. It's a different game and the soundtrack is good.


My taste in music is based solely on what appeals to me and has nothing at all to do with providing comfort or security. No idea where you're coming from with that statement Smiley: lol

I never said or implied that the XIV soundtrack was bad, just that none of it is as good. Again, it's my personal opinion. FWIW, there are many game soundtracks I'd put ahead of FFXI. Just because I enjoy them more than the next doesn't mean the rest of them are bad. I don't see how you'd come to that conclusion.



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I concede in an arguable sense of opinion.

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Simple soap box ridicule. You weren't "enjoying more". You aimed your gun and shot. Your opinion to prefer XI is valid and I might even agree. But to go so far as to hike your leg to the XIV soundtrack against XI simply shows your bias. My conclusion.

*edit Also, do not mistake me for simply a post to post forum commenter. When I respond to someone I am responding to their post history. I would expect you to read between my agenda because I am certainly reading between yours.

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Simple soap box ridicule. You weren't "enjoying more". You aimed your gun and shot. Your opinion to prefer XI is valid and I might even agree. But to go so far as to hike your leg to the XIV soundtrack against XI simply shows your bias. My conclusion.

*edit Also, do not mistake me for simply a post to post forum commenter. When I respond to someone I am responding to their post history. I would expect you to read between my agenda because I am certainly reading between yours.


There were no shots fired at XIV. Perhaps I should have said "I'm not as fond of my favorite track from XIV as I am my least favorite from XI", but I already clarified that; not that I though it even needed clarification. If I say "I think Kobe Bryant is a much better guard than Dwayne Wade" that doesn't mean that I think Dwayne Wade sucks by default. I shouldn't even have to say that.

You're responding to my post projecting some perceived agenda based on something I posted in the past? I'm not certain I have ever read a forum post that made me blush. Thanks for that Smiley: grin
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Simple soap box ridicule. You weren't "enjoying more". You aimed your gun and shot. Your opinion to prefer XI is valid and I might even agree. But to go so far as to hike your leg to the XIV soundtrack against XI simply shows your bias. My conclusion.

*edit Also, do not mistake me for simply a post to post forum commenter. When I respond to someone I am responding to their post history. I would expect you to read between my agenda because I am certainly reading between yours.


There were no shots fired at XIV. Perhaps I should have said "I'm not as fond of my favorite track from XIV as I am my least favorite from XI", but I already clarified that; not that I though it even needed clarification. If I say "I think Kobe Bryant is a much better guard than Dwayne Wade" that doesn't mean that I think Dwayne Wade sucks by default. I shouldn't even have to say that.

You're responding to my post projecting some perceived agenda based on something I posted in the past? I'm not certain I have ever read a forum post that made me blush. Thanks for that Smiley: grin


You responded to me. Perhaps I should blush.

And perhaps you should reread what you wrote. You didn't say Kobe Bryant is a better player than Dwayne Wade. You said Kobe Bryant's worst day is better than Dwayne Wade's best day. Get it?
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ShindaUsagi wrote:
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Simple soap box ridicule. You weren't "enjoying more". You aimed your gun and shot. Your opinion to prefer XI is valid and I might even agree. But to go so far as to hike your leg to the XIV soundtrack against XI simply shows your bias. My conclusion.

*edit Also, do not mistake me for simply a post to post forum commenter. When I respond to someone I am responding to their post history. I would expect you to read between my agenda because I am certainly reading between yours.


There were no shots fired at XIV. Perhaps I should have said "I'm not as fond of my favorite track from XIV as I am my least favorite from XI", but I already clarified that; not that I though it even needed clarification. If I say "I think Kobe Bryant is a much better guard than Dwayne Wade" that doesn't mean that I think Dwayne Wade sucks by default. I shouldn't even have to say that.

You're responding to my post projecting some perceived agenda based on something I posted in the past? I'm not certain I have ever read a forum post that made me blush. Thanks for that Smiley: grin


You responded to me. Perhaps I should blush.

And perhaps you should reread what you wrote. You didn't say Kobe Bryant is a better player than Dwayne Wade. You said Kobe Bryant's worst day is better than Dwayne Wade's best day. Get it?


I respond to pretty much anyone who talks at me.

I do get it, but it's not the same as what I said. Not at all. Completely different context.
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The music is great. These posts though... not so much kid....
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#38 Jul 27 2013 at 6:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Xenoblade


Yes.

"What a bunch of jokers~"

Edit: And just in case someone wants some random listening to kill time, why not have some Xenoblade OST~

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#39 Jul 27 2013 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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There were some memorable tracks in XI for sure.

this one comes to mind as one of my favorites.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV's music leaving me with similar recollections years from now.
#40 Jul 27 2013 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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There were some memorable tracks in XI for sure.

this one comes to mind as one of my favorites.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV's music leaving me with similar recollections years from now.


Yes this song is awesome.

...though I think we can all agree that the music in most SE games (regardless of composer) just has that melodic component that just isn't in western RPGs.

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Off topic but I finally know why I like this song so much....because it reminds me of this song.
#41 Jul 27 2013 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I think XI had music that was enjoyable due to context, whereas XIV has music that is more enjoyable as a standalone piece.

Example:

These are two of my all-time favorite FFXI songs apart from Distant Worlds (which is very good even apart from the game):
Starlight Celebration
Sunbreeze Shuffle

Neither of these are bad pieces of music by any standard, but I have to acknowledge that a significant portion of my affection for them comes because it brings back very fond and vivid memories. Call it a nostalgia bias, but that doesn't diminish my enjoyment of these songs or the fact that they were masterfully appropriate in the context of the game.

On the other hand, even after playing the FFXIV beta for a very short period of time, I realized that this my first time playing an MMO where I have repeatedly commented on how great the music is (once I moved out of Gridania). I've even gone AFK in Limsa just to have it on in the background while browsing the internet.

Ultimately the winner is the one that evokes the strongest reaction in me -- right now that's FFXI by far, but who knows what kind of memories I will attach to FFXIV in the months/years to come.


#42 Jul 27 2013 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't help but imagine cities in the middle of deserts to be somewhat exotic like Rabao/Aht Urghan, so the Ul'dah music sounds a bit too European to me.
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My god the next thing we will fnd to argue is if the grass is better or worse than XI... Oh wait we already did that didnt we. Not to mention we have the usual suspects doing what they know best...

As for the music. Havent really heard the XI music but I liked ARR one and I really dont care if its better or worse than that of XI.
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#44 Jul 28 2013 at 12:39 AM Rating: Good
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I really love the XI music overall and I think it has a lot to do with nostalgia like someone mentioned. I like the ARR music too, but I have some issues with the music that is kept from 1.0 and I think that is simply a matter of "anti-nostalgia" if that makes any sense. I thought 1.0 was so bad that just like I get reminded of the good times with XI music, the opposite happens with 1.0 music for me. Hopefully even 1.0 music kept for ARR will make me feel good after playing and enjoying the game with its music in the background. That being said I hope they keep the King Mog and Garuda music from 1.0 because they were great.
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FFXIV needs more Bagpipes IMO XD.

But yeah, I also feel that FFXI had much more powerful score. While I did find myself humming along to Thanalan's new tune I still feel that even 1.0's soundtrack was much better. It could just be the mettalhead in me though, since I thought 1.0's battle themes were pretty bad ***. Even still, compared to FFXI's soundtracks they don't hold a candle. The first time I stepped out into Ronfaure was a magical experience, and the music lent a lot to that. I've yet to hear a track other than Answers that had any sort of emotional "power" to it like Gustaburg or Lufaise Meadows have... Well I guess the original Thanalan tune was pretty good, but it was so short and IMO inappropriate for the area I could see how it could wear on you after a while.

I don't personally think that it is just nostalgia talking for those of us that think that FFXI's soundtrack is better. I personally enjoyed most of 1.0's tracks and I've listened to the OST a dozen times over the last couple years. While solid and certainly better than WoW's music, what I've heard of ARR's music is pretty meh by comparison. Maybe I need to play the game more, but I haven't had any of the music "grab" me right off the bat like FFXI's tracks. Even ARR's rendition of Prelude doesn't strike the emotion that previous versions have (6 and 7 most notably, but even FFXI). Overall, It's pretty forgettable.

Let it be noted that while Uematsu did compose a couple tracks in FFXI, the bulk of the work was done by two other composers. The most notable tune that he did was in fact the Ronfaure theme.
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Sanctuary of Zi-Tah? Bastok Theme? Mhaura? THE AIRSHIP MUSIC!?

Nothing in FFXIV comes close in my opinion. Although the theme in Gridania is pretty nice. I also dig the Thanalan music. I'm going to have to explore some higher level zones and revisit this. But as of right now, FFXI hands down for me!
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Sanctuary of Zi-Tah? Bastok Theme? Mhaura? THE AIRSHIP MUSIC!?

Nothing in FFXIV comes close in my opinion.

Except the crystals theme.

I know, I know. We're probably talking about new music made specifically for XIV. But nothing will ever make me truly feel like I am playing a Final Fantasy game like hearing the crystals theme.
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#48 Jul 29 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a bunch of FFXI music cd's.
My favorite is the Jeuno Christmas music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SsxrmHXHh8

The new music I like but nothing has grown on me yet, I am sure it will after a while.. i have been so into playing the game I have not really sat to listen to the music.
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My god the next thing we will fnd to argue is if the grass is better or worse than XI... Oh wait we already did that didnt we. Not to mention we have the usual suspects doing what they know best....


Reminds me of http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Russellius/grass_zps0dbeb0ac.png
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Of recent games I played, Xenoblade probably had the best soundtrack. It does the day/night thing for a lot of zones, and while it does electronic stuff, it's fairly good and not out of place since it isn't a medieval setting. There's a lot of good syncing with the environments, too.


Would you be upset if I this is my favorite track?

Seriously, I can rock out to this in my car headbanging until my neck pops.

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On the other hand, I think that FFXI's style has an edge in combat music. It may be because they didn't want FFXIV's combat music to be so jarringly different than it's background music, but it almost ends up taking away from the experience by being far too milquetoast. In FFXI, even a battle with a bunny is an epic experience, and I think that stays true to how combat is usually handled in the franchise.


I actually believe this to be a bad thing. Something so simple as fighting a rabbit should be treated as fighting a rabbit. It shouldn't be treated as a battle of epic proportions because it just isn't. That, to me, diminishes the quality of the music. Music should be more about setting the tone and mood of the situation.

That said, I find XI did a pretty good job at this, and for the longest time, nothing held a candle to this track in XI. It just sets the right mood. Light enough on the tone to keep you relaxed, but powerful enough to make you focus. It's a triumphant theme that begs for you to defeat the mob without breaking a sweat. I find no other battle theme in XI topped this one because frankly it just felt so right.

...That however, is topped by this. Seriously, I ******* love this track. It just has this "COME AT ME, BRO!" tone to it. It's a bit over the top due to the electric guitar, but that's what they were going for. It's a fun slice of music that sets the mood for almost every "random encounter" in the open world. You're supposed to enjoy the fight, because you're a badass adventurer, and you're ******** all over weak monsters you don't give a **** about. This is perfect as a battle theme to me.

Does ARR have a track like this? Right now, no. I find the battle theme to be too microscopic for my taste. It doesn't really have a personality. However, I do enjoy the **** out of the Event Battle theme that often plays during boss battles in dungeons.
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I actually believe this to be a bad thing. Something so simple as fighting a rabbit should be treated as fighting a rabbit. It shouldn't be treated as a battle of epic proportions because it just isn't. That, to me, diminishes the quality of the music. Music should be more about setting the tone and mood of the situation.


A rabbit isn't just a rabbit when it's even level or higher. My first battle against a rabbit was a Forest Hare outside San d'Oria. I didn't survive and spent most of the time trying to run around it dodging it's attacks, but it was probably one of the most epic solos I ever attempted in FFXI. White Coney was another...

That said, my favorite battle themed music from XI is pretty close tie between this and this. Almost certain that the former is my favorite, but probably gets dragged down a bit because of the enormous amount of time I spent in the area listening to it Smiley: lol
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