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#1 Jul 31 2013 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/ffxivbetatop?rgn=en


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FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Beta Tester Application Site

Beta registration is scheduled to begin August 17, 2013.






Wow, I hope this isn't right. Just saw it on Reddit.
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#2 Jul 31 2013 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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Hopefully phase 4 starts way before then. That could just be the date that they start to accept more applicants. I'm itching to play asap!

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Been discussing this on BG.

IF it starts on August 17th, then unless Yoshi-P shortens the length of OB, then Early Access has, at maximum, a length of three days.

August 17th - August 23rd
August 24th - August 27th

Something doesn't add up there. There is literally no time between OB and Early Access to fix any issues. I'd estimate Phase 4 would start on the 14th at the latest, just so the Dev Team would have at least 3 days to fix anything, then use the weekend as Early Access.
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Saw this post on Reddit by jgall1988:
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As sad as this makes me, it sort of makes sense. The release date is August 27th. Starting the beta on the 9th like people had originally guessed would mean that people in beta get a 2 and a half week head start before the release date. Early access usually isn't more than a few days. My new unfortunate prediction is that open beta will start on August 17th. The open beta will last one business week (5 days) and go until August 21. They will have a 1-3 day debug period and early access will begin on August 24-25th


Sounds like this is for real.
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This isn't surprising to me, I thought we were figuring on only a couple of days early access? I'm just glad there will be a short window between P4 and Early Access Smiley: nod
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Hm, if it's a business week, that'd make a lot more sense.

Yeah, I can see that working.

Starting on the 9th doesn't automatically mean Beta players get a 2 and a half week head start though, because it's guaranteed that Beta Phase 4 will only last a week.

The reason why people were estimating that it would start on the 9th is because we assumed Early Access will last for a full week. However, I've always been under the suspicion that it would only be 3-5 days instead.
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I assumed the game would enter Phase 4 on August 9th. It just made sense to assume that. Now I'm not sure what to think. We could very well see tons of server closures for maintenance if this report is accurate. There is simply no room to fix any slack that we might crop up during the launch. This is a bad omen if true. People already have a bad taste in their mouth from the horrible launch of 1.0. It goes to reason that nobody would want any delays or "All world's maintenance" during the first few days of launch.
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Was kinda upset at first but.. I guess that just means more time for me to play Tales of Xilia lol...

Edit: also want to say it doesnt make sense.. Beta is a week long so 17-24th yoshi specificaly said 1-3 days downtime to early acess.. Idk seems fishy.

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I CANT wait that long.. uhg!!
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HeroMystic wrote:
Been discussing this on BG.

IF it starts on August 17th, then unless Yoshi-P shortens the length of OB, then Early Access has, at maximum, a length of three days.

August 17th - August 23rd
August 24th - August 27th

Something doesn't add up there. There is literally no time between OB and Early Access to fix any issues. I'd estimate Phase 4 would start on the 14th at the latest, just so the Dev Team would have at least 3 days to fix anything, then use the weekend as Early Access.


Perhaps P4 will be August 17th to 21st only. He's been warning players it would be short!

I really hope some official timing will be announced with the release of the Character Creator tomorrow.
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August 17th fits, but August 9th fits just as well. This does not necessarily mean phase 4 wont start sooner.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 3:52pm by ScrapTower
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Well, it was stated P4 is only a week per Yoshi P sighting on a server during Phase 3, so it makes sense and Early Access was never going to be a long period of time lol.

How can you start a beta with no registrations...an OPEN beta where you have to register? We have previous testers but you kind of need people to sign up for your beta to get in if it's open and not invite based. How or why would they start it before allowing people to register? SE is all about fairness with ARR, that wouldn't exactly be fair.
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How or why would they start it before allowing people to register? SE is all about fairness with ARR, that wouldn't exactly be fair.


Phase 4 registration started weeks ago. This is for late registration.
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According to the roadmap, P4 is supposed to last between 1 to 2 weeks with a few days offline before early access. If I remember correctly, it has also been hinted at that early access would start on the 20th. I am hoping that this post from reddit is wrong.
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I think the servers are pretty stable so hopefully there won't be as many issues for the launch as there were, say, for Alpha. Plus with Phase 4 and early access they should have a pretty good idea of what the server stress is going to be like. That being said, I still won't be taking launch day off to play Smiley: laugh
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HeroMystic wrote:
Been discussing this on BG.

IF it starts on August 17th, then unless Yoshi-P shortens the length of OB, then Early Access has, at maximum, a length of three days.

August 17th - August 23rd
August 24th - August 27th

Something doesn't add up there. There is literally no time between OB and Early Access to fix any issues. I'd estimate Phase 4 would start on the 14th at the latest, just so the Dev Team would have at least 3 days to fix anything, then use the weekend as Early Access.


Oh wow BG is still around and active?

I haven't been to their site since I played FFXI years ago.
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I think the servers are pretty stable so hopefully there won't be as many issues for the launch as there were, say, for Alpha. Plus with Phase 4 and early access they should have a pretty good idea of what the server stress is going to be like. That being said, I still won't be taking launch day off to play Smiley: laugh


This made my smile because it's so true. I wish I had your willpower Wint, I have this sneaky feeling I'll have the day off only to be rewarded with 24 hour maintenance. I pray that I'm wrong, but 7+years of FFXI tells me otherwise.
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Not sure what this means, but just trying to navigate to the site that was posted in my OP, I found this:

http://entry.ffxiv.com/beta/index_na.html

Which just says:
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As of July 22, 2013, 2 a.m. (PDT), we have temporarily closed the Beta Tester Application Site in preparation for Beta phase 4 (final Beta Test). The site will reopen once Beta phase 4 begins.
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Wint wrote:
I think the servers are pretty stable so hopefully there won't be as many issues for the launch as there were, say, for Alpha. Plus with Phase 4 and early access they should have a pretty good idea of what the server stress is going to be like. That being said, I still won't be taking launch day off to play Smiley: laugh


This made my smile because it's so true. I wish I had your willpower Wint, I have this sneaky feeling I'll have the day off only to be rewarded with 24 hour maintenance. I pray that I'm wrong, but 7+years of FFXI tells me otherwise.


Fortunately for me the 27th is a Tuesday, which is my busiest day of the week so it's not so much willpower as work obligations Smiley: smile
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Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main site. For all we know it could be a typo.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 3:48pm by ScrapTower
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ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.
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ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main site. For all we know it could be a typo.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 3:48pm by ScrapTower


I was thinking it could be an older webpage that was never updated and probably forgotten about.

We really won't know for sure until the live broadcast with Yoshi next week on the 8th when they officially announce the dates.

For now this is the hottest topic on all of the forums, we're all dying to know any new news about P4 or Early Access...

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FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.


Don't tempt people, man. Smiley: oyvey
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FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.


That would make it BEFORE the live webcast with Yoshi on the 8th... very unlikely.

But you get a W for Wishful thinking!
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HeroMystic wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.

Don't tempt people, man. Smiley: oyvey

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I wouldn't worry too much about what's on that page just yet. I suggest waiting until after the Live Letter before hitting the panic button.
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Hairspray wrote:
I was thinking it could be an older webpage that was never updated and probably forgotten about.


It could be that too. So far the Reddit OP has provided no information as to how he came up with that URL, so at this point we don't even know if it's valid.


Edited, Jul 31st 2013 4:01pm by ScrapTower
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Hairspray wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.


That would make it BEFORE the live webcast with Yoshi on the 8th... very unlikely.

But you get a W for Wishful thinking!


But it would be funny:

"And, oh yeah, Phase 4 started yesterday."

And the data centers all burst into flames simutaneously 10 seconds later.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 1:03pm by SkinwalkerAsura
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Hairspray wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.


That would make it BEFORE the live webcast with Yoshi on the 8th... very unlikely.


Well, not really unlikely. After all, it says "registration." Perhaps it registration starts the 7th but the Beta P4 some days after.
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Hairspray wrote:
We really won't know for sure until the live broadcast with Yoshi next week on the 8th when they officially announce the dates.


Unless I missed something, it's still a guess that the dates will be announced in the Live broadcast.

By saying nothing until then, it seems like the Live broadcast servers are going to be crashed!

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 4:06pm by Gnu
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Gnu wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
We really won't know for sure until the live broadcast with Yoshi next week on the 8th when they officially announce the dates.


Unless I missed something, its still a guess that the dates will be announced in the Live broadcast.

By saying nothing until then, it seems like the Live broadcast servers are going to be crashed!

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 4:05pm by Gnu


I for one will be watching live.
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PavetlXIV wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Speeeeeeculation! Smiley: grin

You can't even get to that page without pasting in the url. They've taken the beta application button off of the main sight. For all we know it could be a typo and late registration closes on that date.

The typo could also be on the number. Maybe it means August 7, 2013.

That would make it BEFORE the live webcast with Yoshi on the 8th... very unlikely.

Well, not really unlikely. After all, it says "registration." Perhaps it registration starts the 7th but the Beta P4 some days after.

That was what I intended to imply. I just figured I would point out a more likely typo than the one that was given in the post I quoted.
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I'm sorry. Does a Kupo Nut get me forgiveness?

You have to make me smoked mithra tail for dinner, then we'll call it even. Smiley: nod

I think everyone here knows to just wait till the Live Letter approaches for confirmation, but it's always amusing to speculate.
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If Open Beta only lasts a few days, what would SE be hoping to achieve through Phase 4? Since non-Legacy characters all have to start from scratch, it's not likely that players will be able to test everything that was changed/fixed between Phase 3 and Phase 4. Would it be a better stress test than Phase 3, since an Open Beta is likely to have more participants?
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If Open Beta only lasts a few days, what would SE be hoping to achieve through Phase 4? Since non-Legacy characters all have to start from scratch, it's not likely that players will be able to test everything that was changed/fixed between Phase 3 and Phase 4. Would it be a better stress test than Phase 3, since an Open Beta is likely to have more participants?


That's what they have stated is the primary goal of Phase 4, a Stress test with more participants than P3.

They are going to make absolutely sure that 1.0 characters survive the transition as well, as they had some issues in P3.

Beta Road Map wrote:

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If Open Beta only lasts a few days, what would SE be hoping to achieve through Phase 4? Since non-Legacy characters all have to start from scratch, it's not likely that players will be able to test everything that was changed/fixed between Phase 3 and Phase 4. Would it be a better stress test than Phase 3, since an Open Beta is likely to have more participants?


At this point that's my guess...

P4 is nothing more then an extended early access and stress test... I think we saw in P3 that the game is very polished already and really doesn't need a ton of testing with the possible exception of end-game.
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#36 Jul 31 2013 at 3:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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How or why would they start it before allowing people to register? SE is all about fairness with ARR, that wouldn't exactly be fair.


Phase 4 registration started weeks ago. This is for late registration.


I'm inclined to believe this. When I checked the beta tester page yesterday it had the "registration site closed, will reopen later" message. Makes sense that they would let things run for a bit before opening the floodgates.
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If Open Beta only lasts a few days, what would SE be hoping to achieve through Phase 4? Since non-Legacy characters all have to start from scratch, it's not likely that players will be able to test everything that was changed/fixed between Phase 3 and Phase 4. Would it be a better stress test than Phase 3, since an Open Beta is likely to have more participants?


My guess is they'll be testing if they have enough capacity for launch day and use the Early Start time, which should act as an "eye of the storm," to prepare. There isn't time for much else. It's either going to work or it's getting patched later. Smiley: lol
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svlyons wrote:
If Open Beta only lasts a few days, what would SE be hoping to achieve through Phase 4? Since non-Legacy characters all have to start from scratch, it's not likely that players will be able to test everything that was changed/fixed between Phase 3 and Phase 4. Would it be a better stress test than Phase 3, since an Open Beta is likely to have more participants?


At this point that's my guess...

P4 is nothing more then an extended early access and stress test... I think we saw in P3 that the game is very polished already and really doesn't need a ton of testing with the possible exception of end-game.


The Player Housing and PvP Coliseum features have not been tested by the public as of yet. According to the Beta Road Map, they will be part of Phase 4.

Would we expect those two features have their own servers?
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Would we expect those two features have their own servers?


They will almost certainly be instanced, so they'll probably share a server with other instanced "events". Brenner in XI wasn't. You had to reserve the island.

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This is the "official" NA Beta Application URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks home/language buttons, and the "official" page has more polish.

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This is the "official" NA Beta URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks a home button or the polish of the "official" link.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 5:52pm by ScrapTower



I agree the OP link seems to look Photoshopped compairing the 2 pages its more than obvious.
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ScrapTower wrote:
This is the "official" NA Beta URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks a home button or the polish of the "official" link.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 5:52pm by ScrapTower



I agree the OP link seems to look Photoshopped compairing the 2 pages its more than obvious.


The link is to Square-Enix's own site; it's not a picture.
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ScrapTower wrote:
This is the "official" NA Beta URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks a home button or the polish of the "official" link.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 5:52pm by ScrapTower



I agree the OP link seems to look Photoshopped compairing the 2 pages its more than obvious.


The link is to Square-Enix's own site; it's not a picture.


Yes that's true but if you compare the two, the controversial link looks unfinished, and it's from square-enix.com. The "official" one that they emailed everyone is from ffxiv.com. Also if you look at the source, there is a large block of java script missing.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 6:13pm by ScrapTower
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Jeez someone is getting paid for this long running ARR beta game ad.I'm not getting hyped up like 1.0 had me. I admit i got hooked when they sent my beta invites to an old secondary email address,but then send the notice that i signed up to the recent email.I like to think there is a huge corporation that think "you'll play in 2 weeks" keep people hook on and talking about the game. I'm upgrading my OS HDD videocard before launch, now i have more time work on that. Hackers don't SE have a twitter account to clear it up?

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ScrapTower wrote:
Xoie wrote:
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ScrapTower wrote:
This is the "official" NA Beta URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks a home button or the polish of the "official" link.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 5:52pm by ScrapTower



I agree the OP link seems to look Photoshopped compairing the 2 pages its more than obvious.


The link is to Square-Enix's own site; it's not a picture.


Yes that's true but if you compare the two, the controversial link looks unfinished, and it's from square-enix.com. The "official" one that they emailed everyone is from ffxiv.com. Also if you look at the source, there is a large block of java script missing.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 6:13pm by ScrapTower



It would be a pretty lame hacker that would go to the trouble of breaking into SE's website just to leave a plausible date as to when beta registration would resume.
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Xoie wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
Xoie wrote:
silverhope wrote:
ScrapTower wrote:
This is the "official" NA Beta URL. It says nothing of August 17th. Also notice the other link lacks a home button or the polish of the "official" link.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 5:52pm by ScrapTower



I agree the OP link seems to look Photoshopped compairing the 2 pages its more than obvious.


The link is to Square-Enix's own site; it's not a picture.


Yes that's true but if you compare the two, the controversial link looks unfinished, and it's from square-enix.com. The "official" one that they emailed everyone is from ffxiv.com. Also if you look at the source, there is a large block of java script missing.

Edited, Jul 31st 2013 6:13pm by ScrapTower



It would be a pretty lame hacker that would go to the trouble of breaking into SE's website just to leave a plausible date as to when beta registration would resume.


I'm not saying it was a hacker however it most certainly could be an unfinished/forgotten page, and the OP of the link is basically MIA with no explaination whatsoever.
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P4 is nothing more than a stress test. And bugs, glitches etc found during P4 isn't meant to be fixed by EA anyway. They would be pushed to post launch patches.
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So what was the point of registering a code before the end of July? if it starts after august 17th. Doesn't make sense at all.
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So what was the point of registering a code before the end of July? if it starts after august 17th. Doesn't make sense at all.

I agree, it doesn't add up. The OP link might very well be legit, but I think it's quite old and unfinished and not actually going to happen.

This isn't a biased opinion because I want the beta to happen sooner either. The game is released in less than a month and almost all of us have early access and beta codes registered so we'll all be playing a lot sooner than that.
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I was under the solid impression that it would be on the 8th. I'm not sure why, it was just already in my mind. Weird. This kinda blows because I just so happened to schedule a week off from that day in no connection with beta, just for the **** of it. It would have been nice.
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The producer said the open beta/trial (he called it a free trial period) would be a week long in a post. Now he would not be lying I guess if he meant a business week :/
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