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#1 Aug 01 2013 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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There seem to be a lot of threads with speculation about when early access will begin. Where is the confusion? They said it would be 7 days prior to official launch a long time ago and advertised using this banner (that seems to be becoming harder and harder to find) http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/ffxiv-date-information.2743/. Nevermind the information posted by the users here the important tidbit is the picture in the op. This was plastered all over the ARR website for a long time and says 7 days before launch. I understand things are always subject to change but since it was advertised as 7 days prior to launch should we not expect 7 days prior to launch?
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#2 Aug 01 2013 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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We might not like that they changed it, but we kind of have to accept it and move on unfortunately.
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#3 Aug 01 2013 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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We might not like that they changed it, but we kind of have to accept it and move on unfortunately.

Only thing is we don't know for sure if they did change it and until I see an official release on the matter, I am going to go with what I have thought all along... P4 starts on the 9th and ends on the 16th or the 18th then EA starts on the 20th and goes till launch on the 27th. I could be wrong, but until I know for a fact otherwise, that's what I'm sticking with.

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#4 Aug 01 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats the point, there has been nothing that I have seen that said they were changing it. Just wild speculation by us with no real evidence to support these claims. Should we not assume they are sticking to the previously offered and advertised plan until they say otherwise?
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Thats the point, there has been nothing that I have seen that said they were changing it. Just wild speculation by us with no real evidence to support these claims. Should we not assume they are sticking to the previously offered and advertised plan until they say otherwise?


Except SE has since said that they have not made an official announcement...

they have not denied it will be 7 days, but neither did they confirm it.

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#6 Aug 01 2013 at 12:33 PM Rating: Default
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Hairspray wrote:


they have not denied it will be 7 days, but neither did they confirm it.



Im not sure it gets much more official than on their official website and official advertisements. It says very clearly "get a 7 day head start before launch".
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Elamille wrote:
Hairspray wrote:


they have not denied it will be 7 days, but neither did they confirm it.



Im not sure it gets much more official than on their official website and official advertisements. It says very clearly "get a 7 day head start before launch".


Well I certainly hope you guys are correct... I want to play again yesterday... no forget that... last week!

There's a possible promising sign that it's going to be sooner then the 17th... they changed that page that said the 17th so now it says the same thing as their normal reg page...

Compare:
https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/ffxivbetatop?rgn=en - Leaked page that had said August 17...

http://entry.ffxiv.com/beta/index_na.html - SE site for registration that said beta registration would re-open once P4 starts.

They both say the same thing now...


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#8 Aug 01 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I understand things are always subject to change but since it was advertised as 7 days prior to launch should we not expect 7 days prior to launch?

Managing expectations is an important skill. I think early access is going to be 7 days. I'm anticipating that it's going to be 7 days. But I wouldn't quite say I'm expecting it to be 7 days.

I've prepared myself for the possibility that it won't be 7 days. So hopefully I won't be too disappointed if early access is a much shorter period.
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svlyons wrote:

Managing expectations is an important skill. I think early access is going to be 7 days. I'm anticipating that it's going to be 7 days. But I wouldn't quite say I'm expecting it to be 7 days.

I've prepared myself for the possibility that it won't be 7 days. So hopefully I won't be too disappointed if early access is a much shorter period.


Idk, that seems to me like buying a gallon of milk and then not minding if its half full. If I am told by the source that it is a gallon it should be a gallon. If square sold me the game saying pre order now and get 7 days I expect 7 days.
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OP, I think you should accept that we will all be confused until we get an official announcement from a developer's mouth, not an advertisement banner. We would love to give you the answers. All we can offer is speculation.
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#11 Aug 01 2013 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Elamille wrote:
svlyons wrote:

Managing expectations is an important skill. I think early access is going to be 7 days. I'm anticipating that it's going to be 7 days. But I wouldn't quite say I'm expecting it to be 7 days.

I've prepared myself for the possibility that it won't be 7 days. So hopefully I won't be too disappointed if early access is a much shorter period.


Idk, that seems to me like buying a gallon of milk and then not minding if its half full. If I am told by the source that it is a gallon it should be a gallon. If square sold me the game saying pre order now and get 7 days I expect 7 days.


It was discovered that the image was not put out by SE directly, it came out of Australia. I read a lot of forums and listen to every podcast available on the topic, so I'm pretty sure I've got the best available information on the topic, but I couldn't tell you where I learned this exactly. You can choose to trust me on that if you want... Smiley: grin

Edit: Found the post where I found the Australia connection- http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/ffxiv-date-information.2743/#post-39980

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We still don't know if Early Access is 7 days, or if it's fewer. That "7 days" image was apparently scrubbed by SE the day it appeared. And Yoshi-P has always said 3-5. Even the Australian retailer that image came from has changed it, perhaps many weeks ago. The current image is here. (from EB Games Australia)


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#12 Aug 01 2013 at 2:01 PM Rating: Default
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We arent getting a week early access. They never officially said they were as far as I know. Its likely we are getting 5-7 days of open beta and 3-5 days of early access.
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Elamille wrote:
svlyons wrote:

Managing expectations is an important skill. I think early access is going to be 7 days. I'm anticipating that it's going to be 7 days. But I wouldn't quite say I'm expecting it to be 7 days.

I've prepared myself for the possibility that it won't be 7 days. So hopefully I won't be too disappointed if early access is a much shorter period.

Idk, that seems to me like buying a gallon of milk and then not minding if its half full. If I am told by the source that it is a gallon it should be a gallon. If square sold me the game saying pre order now and get 7 days I expect 7 days.

I disagree with the analogy. But I'm not going to try and dissect it since that kind of over-analysis of analogies tend to prove fruitless anyway.

Instead, let me ask you this. If SE delivered a 7 day early access period by pushing the release day back, would that satisfy your expectations? For example, what is SE announced that early access would start on the 24th, and that the release of the game would be pushed back to the 31st to allow an early access period of 7 days. Do you think that would be better than having only 3 days of early access while keeping the release date unchanged?
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Ehllfire wrote:
We arent getting a week early access. They never officially said they were as far as I know. Its likely we are getting 5-7 days of open beta and 3-5 days of early access.


.... and what are you basing this on??? Any information posted on this topic is speculation. Since this is a reboot and SE is banking on wowing and convincing their customers to return and spend money .... it'd be in their best interest to give us a longer beta/ER time frame to increase sales. I'm hoping for the 9th.... it seems logical that it should be the 9th .... but as a few have already stated..... ill keep my expectations tempered until an official announcment

Its is an educated guess using the facts we do know.
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I've not seen this brought up yet, but could it be possible that SE is going to do something similar to how SWTOR did their early access?

For SWTOR they staggered the access, based on date of pre-order. Very early pre-orders got about 5 days EA, while those of us who ordered a week before launch only got about a day.

While obviously SE can't do exactly that due to the fact that Legacy Members who didn't pre-order still get EA, could it be possible that they will allow the Legacy members in first by join date, then those of us with Pre-orders? Meaning that not everyone will get the same amount of EA.

It would help to explain why they have been rather closed mouthed about something they really should be trumpeting a lot to drum up more hype.
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There seem to be a lot of threads with speculation about when early access will begin. Where is the confusion? They said it would be 7 days prior to official launch a long time ago and advertised using this banner (that seems to be becoming harder and harder to find) http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/ffxiv-date-information.2743/. Nevermind the information posted by the users here the important tidbit is the picture in the op. This was plastered all over the ARR website for a long time and says 7 days before launch. I understand things are always subject to change but since it was advertised as 7 days prior to launch should we not expect 7 days prior to launch?


Pretty sure this is fake.

The graphic comes not from an SE source but from the EB games website in Australia which contains lots of information about pre-order bonuses etc. After I had seen it on the EB games website, it starting popping up in forums initially with the original source cited. After a few days, it also started appearing alongside this alleged communication from SE. It is possible that a mistake by EB games on their site, was picked up, photoshopped and is now creating quite a stir.

Beta applications are closed until 17 August 2013 which has triggered a widespread acceptance that Beta 4 might commence that day.

This would also match up with Yoshi-P's earlier statement that pre-order will provide early access of "a few days".

Beta 4: 17 August to 24 August
Early access: 24 August to 27 August
Launch: 27 August.

Of course, I am speculating just like everyone else, its just this is what I am preparing myself for so as to avoid any unnecessary disappointment.
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