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#1 Aug 08 2013 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like this idea. See it at 3h 24min into the broadcast.

30days
Wind-up Courser (Minion)
Phial of Fantasia (Change physical appearance)

60days
Cascadier Uniform Voucher (Black Fire-Resistant Gear)
Black Chocobo Chick (minion)

90Days
Beady Eye (minion)
Voidal Resonator (mount)

If you subscribe for 90days of the get go, you will get the 30, 60, and 90 day rewards at once. I wonder what comes at 120 and beyond? What about those that were subscribed since they started asking for money, last May. Good stuff in my opinion. Little extras always make paying for something a bit more fun.

I really like the Beady Eye minion too, Ill have that one following me around for sure.

*Edit: Thank you Hairspray for giving us the correct item info. :)


Let me add this too because someone says otherwise below, perhaps they didn't see the second quote.

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Veteran Rewards are special in game item bonuses awarded based on how long you have had an active subscription. These rewards will be distributed via the moogle delivery service once you have reached a certain number of days subscribed.


This is pay as you go, once you pay, you will get the 30day reward. Pay for another month and on day 60, you will get the 60day reward.

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Veteran Rewards are granted based on the number of days subscribed rather than time played. For example, a player who subscribes for 90 days is eligible to receive the 30, 60, and 90 day Veteran Rewards all on their first day.


These quote may seem contradicting but its giving you two options, pay month by month, get rewarded month by month. Pay 90days UPFRONT get all rewards upfront.







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#2 Aug 08 2013 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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the Phial of Fantasia lets you change the look of ur character to anything. Like a redo at the char creation.
#3 Aug 08 2013 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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They're not for the length of time you have been subscribed for, so those who subscribed before won't get anything extra. They're for paying for the subscription plans.
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the Phial of Fantasia lets you change the look of ur character to anything. Like a redo at the char creation.


O.o How many times will you be able to do that?
#5 Aug 08 2013 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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They're not for the length of time you have been subscribed for, so those who subscribed before won't get anything extra. They're for paying for the subscription plans.


Also, when I read your post I realized, "Legacy" Status, is the reward for prior to ARR subscriptions. Complete with items and lower cost of living...

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They're not for the length of time you have been subscribed for, so those who subscribed before won't get anything extra. They're for paying for the subscription plans.


Also, when I read your post I realized, "Legacy" Status, is the reward for prior to ARR subscriptions. Complete with items and lower cost of living...

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Smiley: lol
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So, I missed most of the 2nd half of the live letter due to having a dentist appointment, but when I came back I read notes about this on the official translations thread that Bayhone puts up. I just wanted to clarify something. These days are "accumulated" right? This is how I interpreted it. So, if I pay only the monthly fee, I'll get the ahriman mount after 3 months right? I don't HAVE to automatically pay for 3 months ahead of time do I?
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So, I missed most of the 2nd half of the live letter due to having a dentist appointment, but when I came back I read notes about this on the official translations thread that Bayhone puts up. I just wanted to clarify something. These days are "accumulated" right? This is how I interpreted it. So, if I pay only the monthly fee, I'll get the ahriman mount after 3 months right? I don't HAVE to automatically pay for 3 months ahead of time do I?


That's how I read it. You can go month by month and get the items as you go. BUT if you throw the 90days down, you will get all the items at once because you just subscribed for 90days and will be for 90days paying...

So, yes, as I understood it. So your next month's sub will yield the other items.

Now, if it has to be consecutive or cumulative, I don't know.
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swisa wrote:
So, I missed most of the 2nd half of the live letter due to having a dentist appointment, but when I came back I read notes about this on the official translations thread that Bayhone puts up. I just wanted to clarify something. These days are "accumulated" right? This is how I interpreted it. So, if I pay only the monthly fee, I'll get the ahriman mount after 3 months right? I don't HAVE to automatically pay for 3 months ahead of time do I?



From what I understood from the translation, these are called "Veteran's Rewards" as opposed to "Pre-Subscriber Rewards". Yoshi attended a business meeting with financial backers and they wanted a longevity system implemented that would reward players for staying with the game. My understanding is that regardless of how much you pre-pay, you will not get the items until you have actually been registered for that length of time (a moogle delivers it), and you will still get the items if you pay month to month indefinitely with your credit card. It would be pointless to give you all of the items at once, that will not guarantee that you will stay around playing the game. The model would then be broken.

Scenario:
Player - Hey I am rich, let me play for three years all at once! Now can I have my 30 inch Ifrit statue for my 1095 days?
Devs- Ummm, we haven't set up rewards for that far ahead...

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#10 Aug 08 2013 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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WFOAssassin wrote:

30days
Wind-up Courser (Minion)
Phial of Fantasia (Change physical appearance)

60days
Cascadier Uniform Voucher (Black Fire-Resistant Gear)
Black Chocobo Chick (minion)

90Days
Beady Eye (minion)
Voidal Resonator (mount)


I saw these on the official forums.. thought I'd chime in with the corrected info (in bold).
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#11 Aug 08 2013 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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Hairspray wrote:


Wind-up Courser (Minion)



Was it a minion? From the video it looked like he was really moving it around on the screen like a cursor (which also makes me wonder about PS3 and how that would work...)

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 10:48am by Valkayree
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Valkayree wrote:
Hairspray wrote:


Wind-up Courser (Minion)



Was it a minion? From the video it looked like he was really moving it around on the screen like a cursor (which also makes me wonder about PS3 and how that would work...)

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 10:48am by Valkayree


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Yeah it's official, see the link:

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Reward for subscribing 30 days:
- Wind-up Cursor (minion)
- Phial of Fantasia (Used to change the appearance of your character)

Reward for subscribing 60 days:
- Cascadier Uniform Voucher (Grants black “heat resistant gear”)
- A Black Chocobo Chick (minion)

Rewards for subscribing 90 days:
- Beady Eye (Ahriman minion)
- Voidsent Resonator (Ahriman mount)
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#13 Aug 08 2013 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:

[Yeah it's official, see the link:

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Reward for subscribing 30 days:
- Wind-up Cursor (minion)
- Phial of Fantasia (Used to change the appearance of your character)

Reward for subscribing 60 days:
- Cascadier Uniform Voucher (Grants black “heat resistant gear”)
- A Black Chocobo Chick (minion)

Rewards for subscribing 90 days:
- Beady Eye (Ahriman minion)
- Voidsent Resonator (Ahriman mount)


My eyes did deceive me.
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This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.
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#15 Aug 08 2013 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.


DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin
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Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.


DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin


That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol
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PhoenixOmbre wrote:

That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol

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PhoenixOmbre wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.


DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin


That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol


HAHA... well that Ahriman mount is enough for me! I'll have to decide between that and the Coeurl one!
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Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.


DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin


That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol


HAHA... well that Ahriman mount is enough for me! I'll have to decide between that and the Coeurl one!


Yeah, mounts are the real deal. But wait, you don't get a chocobo for some time... Are they saying that level 1's who pay for 90 days will have access to the ahriman mount right off the bat?
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Definetly going for the 90 days sub with all these goodies! May pay it for my boyfriend too if he gets interested.
I'm just hoping my comptuer can run this as smooth as I can run wow or else I'll have some upgrading to do!
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swisa wrote:
So, I missed most of the 2nd half of the live letter due to having a dentist appointment, but when I came back I read notes about this on the official translations thread that Bayhone puts up. I just wanted to clarify something. These days are "accumulated" right? This is how I interpreted it. So, if I pay only the monthly fee, I'll get the ahriman mount after 3 months right? I don't HAVE to automatically pay for 3 months ahead of time do I?



From what I understood from the translation, these are called "Veteran's Rewards" as opposed to "Pre-Subscriber Rewards". Yoshi attended a business meeting with financial backers and they wanted a longevity system implemented that would reward players for staying with the game. My understanding is that regardless of how much you pre-pay, you will not get the items until you have actually been registered for that length of time (a moogle delivers it), and you will still get the items if you pay month to month indefinitely with your credit card. It would be pointless to give you all of the items at once, that will not guarantee that you will stay around playing the game. The model would then be broken.

Scenario:
Player - Hey I am rich, let me play for three years all at once! Now can I have my 30 inch Ifrit statue for my 1095 days?
Devs- Ummm, we haven't set up rewards for that far ahead...

Edited, Aug 8th 2013 10:46am by Valkayree



See my quotes that I added up top.

It makes sense to reward players at the end of the term but it also guarantees income. If they say, play to X day get X reward, maybe people will say OK, but at some point someone will say, "not worth it". If they say, pay for 3 months now, get all of it now, that is guaranteed 3 months of service that they can count as income now and in the next thee months down the road. That means, 10 players do 90day service, that's at least 10 subs in 3 months even if the game SUCKS. If its month by month, the players might drop out at any time and they can't count on it.

Why would I sub for 90day with no immediate reward? Why not pay month by month then? After month two I can save my money if it sucks, but if I do the 90day sub, I have no choice. I bet the stock holders are going to be really happy with the amount of Eyeball mounts and minions running around on day 1 of paid service.
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If only cable and other apps would do this too.

30 Days
1 Day free premium channel
1 free on demand movie

60 Days
1 day free access to all premium channels
1 free on demand movie

90 Days
2 days free access to one premium channel
1 free on demand movie

6 Months
1 week free premium channel
3 free on demand movies

1 Year
1 week free access to all channels
5 free on demand movies

Back to point. Since this is a themepark mmo, there will be periods of downtime between content. This provides some form of motivation for them to not un-subscribe during that time.

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I just realized I will have more minions than I know what to do with... Crap. How can my little grunty compete with a flying eyeball. They better start giving secret stats or bonuses at random so I want to use them all. ; ;
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If only cable and other apps would do this too.

30 Days
1 Day free premium channel
1 free on demand movie

60 Days
1 day free access to all premium channels
1 free on demand movie

90 Days
2 days free access to one premium channel
1 free on demand movie

6 Months
1 week free premium channel
3 free on demand movies

1 Year
1 week free access to all channels
5 free on demand movies

Back to point. Since this is a themepark mmo, there will be periods of downtime between content. This provides some form of motivation for them to not un-subscribe during that time.

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This would be even more pertinent with the whole Time Warner/CBS pissing match going on right now.
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This works well since my rule is to sub to an MMO for 3 months and if I am still playing, then it was well worth my time and I'll continue. Sadly, some MMOs and I didn't work out. IT'S ME, NOT YOU! I SWEAR!
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Valkayree wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.

DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin

That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol

HAHA... well that Ahriman mount is enough for me! I'll have to decide between that and the Coeurl one!

Yeah, mounts are the real deal. But wait, you don't get a chocobo for some time... Are they saying that level 1's who pay for 90 days will have access to the ahriman mount right off the bat?

You still have to get chocobo access before you can use the mount.

I like the of idea of subscription rewards. I wonder what other things they'll end up giving out.
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Valkayree wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
PhoenixOmbre wrote:
This might become the first time ever that a MMO could convince me to pay for more than 30 days at a time.

DCUO had a lower subscription fee for 90 day subs... hopefully these are ON TOP of a lower sub fee Smiley: grin

That has never been enough to convince me, because I never know if I'll actually be playing for 3 months in advance. But throw in some pets, and logic goes out the window Smiley: lol

HAHA... well that Ahriman mount is enough for me! I'll have to decide between that and the Coeurl one!

Yeah, mounts are the real deal. But wait, you don't get a chocobo for some time... Are they saying that level 1's who pay for 90 days will have access to the ahriman mount right off the bat?

You still have to get chocobo access before you can use the mount.

I like the of idea of subscription rewards. I wonder what other things they'll end up giving out.


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What I am curious about and haven't seen mentioned is what happens if you unsubscribe then pick it back up later? Do the rewards reset or does it just pick up again where it left off. This is a really important detail that is missing ATM. I'm sure they'll have it worked out by the time subs roll around, but still makes me curious.
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I have a feeling it's probably consecutive months to encourage loyalty, but that is really just a guess. I still think it's awesome that someone can pay 30 days at a time and still end up getting all the rewards as long as they stay subbed for 90 days. I was so used to how things were run with FFXI, where it sometimes seemed like the devs were out to get ya, that I almost forgot how good to it's customers SE can be. I just keep being pleasantly surprised by the changes to SE over the past few years.
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I have a feeling it's probably consecutive months to encourage loyalty, but that is really just a guess. I still think it's awesome that someone can pay 30 days at a time and still end up getting all the rewards as long as they stay subbed for 90 days. I was so used to how things were run with FFXI, where it sometimes seemed like the devs were out to get ya, that I almost forgot how good to it's customers SE can be. I just keep being pleasantly surprised by the changes to SE over the past few years.



Not in a mean way. I disagree. I think they will allow a running total. Of course, making it be consecutive is more likely to keep people from stopping the sub if they wanted to take a month off. But That's not fair, making them start over, what if I do this for 15months and have to stop due to... a baby for 4 months, I should have to start over again, that would be a kick in the nutz, right?

I think it will be cumulative but I can see how they would do it your way too. I just think it would be an insult for someone who, HAD, to take a break. I would complain about that. We are all going to need to take a break at some point. I could be wrong. I do agree that SE is on the right track with this game and effort to please us all though. kudos to them.
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I'm just curious because I never did any of the stuff to obtain a minion during p3... What exactly are they good for? Do they provide any stat bonuses or anything of that sort? Or is this strictly for aesthetics?
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Eh, I think I'll just pay month by month. This doesn't convince me to pay 90 days at the start. I will get the items eventually.
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I'm just curious because I never did any of the stuff to obtain a minion during p3... What exactly are they good for? Do they provide any stat bonuses or anything of that sort? Or is this strictly for aesthetics?

Strictly for aesthetics.

I hope they add some sort of emote functionality to them. I think it would be awesome if when you sat, the minion sat with you. If you used cheer, the minion did something equally cheery.
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What are they good for?


~Minions... What are they good for.. absolutely nothing ~

Heh just something cute and collectible :)
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Not in a mean way. I disagree. I think they will allow a running total. Of course, making it be consecutive is more likely to keep people from stopping the sub if they wanted to take a month off. But That's not fair, making them start over, what if I do this for 15months and have to stop due to... a baby for 4 months, I should have to start over again, that would be a kick in the nutz, right?

I think it will be cumulative but I can see how they would do it your way too. I just think it would be an insult for someone who, HAD, to take a break. I would complain about that. We are all going to need to take a break at some point. I could be wrong. I do agree that SE is on the right track with this game and effort to please us all though. kudos to them.


Oh, it's very possible it will be cumulative, in fact I hope that it is for the exact reason you mentioned. It was just a guess honestly. I'm already planning to sub 6 months to start because of the discounted price, and because I know this game can keep my interest at least that long... heck, I played swtor for almost 2 years with it's myriad of problems... and ffxi for 6+.
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What are they good for?


~Minions... What are they good for.. absolutely nothing ~

Heh just something cute and collectible :)


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Interesting. Again, more goodies being given out. Goodies are always welcome.

I honestly wasn't a big fan of the minions during Phase 3 (them not interacting with you was a bit of a downer), but a Black Chocobo Chick minion? I don't think I can resist that. lol

I wanted a black chocobo so bad in FFXI, and was lucky enough to raise one. I guess DarkTalon will ride again! Y'know, in baby form...running behind me...
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Nice work on the information! <3 love coming here for that
anyone got any pictures of the minions by any chance? I havent seen them :(

Also is the fantasia potion like a one time use thing or?
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I'm curious to know if these subscription rewards are for the Standard model and Entry. Standard lists different prices for 30, 90 and 180 days. The 180 day model with 8 characters for 40 total is the same as the Entry model with 1 character per server for a total of 8. If you can just have month to month with the Entry model (I really don't need 40 characters) and still receive the bonuses after enough days have passed, then I'll be happy with this. If it's Standard only, I don't know how I'll feel about it.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/ -> Pricing/Platforms
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Yea too bad minions could not be interacted with or fight along side of you. Maybe it will be added in the future.

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#42 Aug 09 2013 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
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Nashred wrote:
Yea too bad minions could not be interacted with or fight along side of you. Maybe it will be added in the future.

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 10:46am by Nashred



I don't want them to fight that's what our choco are for plus there adding more battle buddies later. What I would love is for all minions to have a battle stance .
#43 Aug 09 2013 at 10:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.
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#44 Aug 09 2013 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.


In WoW, the minions can be used to battle one another now (turn based, no less). Its a whole mini game that you can do as an option while you're out there doing other stuff. I wouldn't doubt if they are considering this down the line for ffxiv. So they may not be totally useless in the future.
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#45 Aug 09 2013 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.

Keep in mind that paying for an extended subscription (rather than going month by month) will actually save you money in the long run since you're paying less per month. If you're not sure if you'll be playing FFXIV after a month or two, then it's risky to pay for a 3 or 6 month subscription up front. If I had to guess though, someone who invested in a CE is probably less likely to drop the game after only a month or two than someone who only bought the digital download no frills version of the game.
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#46 Aug 09 2013 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Chialing wrote:
Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.

In WoW, the minions can be used to battle one another now (turn based, no less). Its a whole mini game that you can do as an option while you're out there doing other stuff. I wouldn't doubt if they are considering this down the line for ffxiv. So they may not be totally useless in the future.

Sounds like Pokémon. I can see it now:

Wild Cait Sith appeared!
Go! Wind-up Courser!
What will Wind-up Courser do?
Wind-up Courser used Poke!
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#47 Aug 09 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Chialing wrote:
Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.

In WoW, the minions can be used to battle one another now (turn based, no less). Its a whole mini game that you can do as an option while you're out there doing other stuff. I wouldn't doubt if they are considering this down the line for ffxiv. So they may not be totally useless in the future.

Sounds like Pokémon. I can see it now:

Wild Cait Sith appeared!
Go! Wind-up Courser!
What will Wind-up Courser do?
Wind-up Courser used Poke!


It was actually pretty fun when I was doing it a while back. The pets are based on their type (undead, critter, mechanical, etc), and have some attacks based on that type. Some have attacks specific to the actual pet as well. It is kind of rock/paper/scissors because certain pets are weaker to certain types, while they are strong to others. Mechanical is strong to beast, for instance, but weak to something else. Here's a YouTube video showing what it is like. This could conceivably happen in ARR at some point.

http://youtu.be/S9HB-gJwZpA

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 12:07pm by Chialing
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#48 Aug 09 2013 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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This is a pretty interesting model and definitely a welcome one. My question though is if this stuff will always be the same for everyone that starts or if eventually it will become unavailable. It would be pretty lame if down the road you'd have to subscribe for 7 years straight to get stuff later down the line.

Maybe they will do it to where they change the stuff available every year or so with some way for people whom start mid year are still able to obtain everything if they so choose. Possibly a 12 or 13 month rotation where if a new player ends up paying for months that go into the new item rotation year they can obtain the items that they might miss starting mid year. They could also give really great items to those that are around to pay for every month at the end of the year.

I just don't think it would be very great to have some awesome item that someone new might want tied to time subscribed. They start playing and then see some awesome mount that they must have but then realize they have to pay for a full 3 years to obtain it. I'd rather see these items be unobtainable than lorded over newcomers. It would be akin to holiday items that change year to year and you have to deal with never being able to obtain them.
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#49 Aug 09 2013 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Chialing wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
Chialing wrote:
Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.

In WoW, the minions can be used to battle one another now (turn based, no less). Its a whole mini game that you can do as an option while you're out there doing other stuff. I wouldn't doubt if they are considering this down the line for ffxiv. So they may not be totally useless in the future.

Sounds like Pokémon. I can see it now:

Wild Cait Sith appeared!
Go! Wind-up Courser!
What will Wind-up Courser do?
Wind-up Courser used Poke!


It was actually pretty fun when I was doing it a while back. The pets are based on their type (undead, critter, mechanical, etc), and have some attacks based on that type. Some have attacks specific to the actual pet as well. It is kind of rock/paper/scissors because certain pets are weaker to certain types, while they are strong to others. Mechanical is strong to beast, for instance, but weak to something else. Here's a YouTube video showing what it is like. This could conceivably happen in ARR at some point.

http://youtu.be/S9HB-gJwZpA

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 12:07pm by Chialing

I know a way minions could be used in game! Smiley: wink


#50 Aug 09 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
sandpark wrote:
Chialing wrote:
FrozenSherbet wrote:
Chialing wrote:
Grandmomma wrote:
I'm getting the PS3 CE - pricey. No way am I going to shell out more cha-ching to SE.

Now, if they were give free FURNITURE, like the beds they showed us, then I'd think about it.
Except for the mount, I'm really not interested in the other items (minions, minions and more minions).

Do the minons breed? I can see the cities being taken over by minos running everywhere. Are the minons smaller than Lala's?. If you have a tall character, I bet you won't be able to see a LaLa's minions.

Minons, no thanks. FURNITURE, yes please.

In WoW, the minions can be used to battle one another now (turn based, no less). Its a whole mini game that you can do as an option while you're out there doing other stuff. I wouldn't doubt if they are considering this down the line for ffxiv. So they may not be totally useless in the future.

Sounds like Pokémon. I can see it now:

Wild Cait Sith appeared!
Go! Wind-up Courser!
What will Wind-up Courser do?
Wind-up Courser used Poke!


It was actually pretty fun when I was doing it a while back. The pets are based on their type (undead, critter, mechanical, etc), and have some attacks based on that type. Some have attacks specific to the actual pet as well. It is kind of rock/paper/scissors because certain pets are weaker to certain types, while they are strong to others. Mechanical is strong to beast, for instance, but weak to something else. Here's a YouTube video showing what it is like. This could conceivably happen in ARR at some point.

http://youtu.be/S9HB-gJwZpA

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 12:07pm by Chialing

I know a way minions could be used in game! Smiley: wink




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#51 Aug 09 2013 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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I'm curious to know if these subscription rewards are for the Standard model and Entry. Standard lists different prices for 30, 90 and 180 days. The 180 day model with 8 characters for 40 total is the same as the Entry model with 1 character per server for a total of 8. If you can just have month to month with the Entry model (I really don't need 40 characters) and still receive the bonuses after enough days have passed, then I'll be happy with this. If it's Standard only, I don't know how I'll feel about it.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/product/ -> Pricing/Platforms


I can say with almost certainty that it will not matter which plan you choose. You should be able to get the rewards just for subscribing. It would be pretty boneheaded of SE to restrict this in any way and I can't see them doing that.

Nashred wrote:
Yea too bad minions could not be interacted with or fight along side of you. Maybe it will be added in the future.

Edited, Aug 9th 2013 10:46am by Nashred


What I would really like to see is the other mounts fighting with you like the chocobo. Now how cool is THAT?

DamienSScott wrote:
This is a pretty interesting model and definitely a welcome one. My question though is if this stuff will always be the same for everyone that starts or if eventually it will become unavailable. It would be pretty lame if down the road you'd have to subscribe for 7 years straight to get stuff later down the line.

Maybe they will do it to where they change the stuff available every year or so with some way for people whom start mid year are still able to obtain everything if they so choose. Possibly a 12 or 13 month rotation where if a new player ends up paying for months that go into the new item rotation year they can obtain the items that they might miss starting mid year. They could also give really great items to those that are around to pay for every month at the end of the year.

I just don't think it would be very great to have some awesome item that someone new might want tied to time subscribed. They start playing and then see some awesome mount that they must have but then realize they have to pay for a full 3 years to obtain it. I'd rather see these items be unobtainable than lorded over newcomers. It would be akin to holiday items that change year to year and you have to deal with never being able to obtain them.


I'm not really sure what you mean bu this, but if you mean what I think you mean, lemme explain a little. The rewards will start, progress and end the same for each individual. For example, let's say you are required to go to work for 8 hours in a day. It doesn't matter when you go, just so you go for 8 hours. Every hour, you will be given a reward for every hour you stay. Now someone could have went an hour ahead of you, therefore, as you arrive, they will already be getting their first reward (a signed photo of Justin Beiber). After you have been there for an hour, you will now get the totally awesome photo, but the other guy will be getting his second reward, as he was there ahead of you (2 free bank slots in Neverwinter). You see, the rewards are progression based and not set in any time frame. Hope this helps explain it a little.
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