While we are talking about hate.
Please keep in mind that over the time effect (DoT and Regen-type spell) will get (a little bit of) hate each time they proc.
for example an ARC that like to put poison arrow on all the mob at the start of the fight will probably not pull hate "at the moment" they fire the skill but if the tank doesn't generate more hate on the sub-mob after the first flash and just do combo, the ARC will have a surprise 12-15 second later, since the poison arrow will have proc'ed a couple of time since.
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Pryssant wrote:
While we are talking about hate.
Please keep in mind that over the time effect (DoT and Regen-type spell) will get (a little bit of) hate each time they proc.
for example an ARC that like to put poison arrow on all the mob at the start of the fight will probably not pull hate "at the moment" they fire the skill but if the tank doesn't generate more hate on the sub-mob after the first flash and just do combo, the ARC will have a surprise 12-15 second later, since the poison arrow will have proc'ed a couple of time since.
Please keep in mind that over the time effect (DoT and Regen-type spell) will get (a little bit of) hate each time they proc.
for example an ARC that like to put poison arrow on all the mob at the start of the fight will probably not pull hate "at the moment" they fire the skill but if the tank doesn't generate more hate on the sub-mob after the first flash and just do combo, the ARC will have a surprise 12-15 second later, since the poison arrow will have proc'ed a couple of time since.
To be fair, in that scenario, the healer will pull hate WAY before the DoTs will
svlyons wrote:
If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
Totally didn't notice this. Neat.
Does anyone know how to write a proper assist macro? I tried to make one that was "/assist <p#>" with # being the position of the tank in the party but it didn't appear to work properly.
OtosanOokami wrote:
Every healer at some point will be Tanking, for some reason or another. Be it stupidity, or a product of the circumstances. The Catch 22 is you'll be healing yourself to survive, increasing enmity, and hoping that your team can overcome the hate, without incurring so much damage themselves that the mob is right back on your keester.
Precisely why I slotted Featherfoot and the MRD defense one (no idea wtf it's called offhand). If I pull hate, I drop the featherfoot and just as it expires, I hit the defense ability. Stop healing if I can to let the tank retake the mob(s). Or else, I BECOME DA TANK!!
Wint wrote:
Healer's too can use this to their advantage.
Yeah, that's really useful... I had no idea how it worked :)
That's pretty good info I'll be paying closer attention to in the future. That sites looks to have quite a bit of useful articles so I'll be adding it to my bookmarks also.
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Being a warrior myself this is a very useful post, thank you.
You are most welcome :)
Thrustie wrote:
Does anyone know how to write a proper assist macro? I tried to make one that was "/assist <p#>" with # being the position of the tank in the party but it didn't appear to work properly.
They changed the tag a little bit since ffxi. What you want to do is: "/assist <#>"
"/as <#>" will work as well.
edit: please take note that <0> is yourself and <1> will be the first party member down the list and so on... you are not player 1
Also, there is the tag <tt> that work in the same goal but with a little twist, which is VERY helpful for healer.
you target the main mob and fire off this macro
/ac "Cure" <tt>
It will cure the target of the mob. Without removing focus on you current target (the main mob).
Keeping target on the main mob help to throw a couple of DoT and keeping a close eye on the hate bar next to each party member. You sadly cannot see hate distribution on each party member when you target your tank.
Edited, Aug 29th 2013 7:24am by Pryssant
Thanks for the great post!
I am a tank learning to play tank, and I never knew about the enmity bars, Was in a Dungeon yesterday where I had to somewhat snap at the archer for pulling the mobs instead of letting me pull lol. That being said I did my best to hold hate and my Philosophy is if is if its more than 1 mob and they aren't ALL attacking me then I make sure they all are. Again great post
I am a tank learning to play tank, and I never knew about the enmity bars, Was in a Dungeon yesterday where I had to somewhat snap at the archer for pulling the mobs instead of letting me pull lol. That being said I did my best to hold hate and my Philosophy is if is if its more than 1 mob and they aren't ALL attacking me then I make sure they all are. Again great post
I noticed the enmity bars in the party list during phase 3 and I was able to quickly learn that the common strategy of spam flash a bunch was not worthwhile. As long as your party is properly focusing targets, you can get away with shield lob > flash > DD until 1/2 and switch target and you will usually hold hate until that mob is dead. I would usually flash again when I switched targets the first time, but I rarely needed more than that.
If your party isn't focusing targets, there is no way spamming flash is going to help you.
If your party isn't focusing targets, there is no way spamming flash is going to help you.
JeremyPD55 wrote:
Thanks for the great post!
I am a tank learning to play tank, and I never knew about the enmity bars, Was in a Dungeon yesterday where I had to somewhat snap at the archer for pulling the mobs instead of letting me pull lol. That being said I did my best to hold hate and my Philosophy is if is if its more than 1 mob and they aren't ALL attacking me then I make sure they all are. Again great post
I am a tank learning to play tank, and I never knew about the enmity bars, Was in a Dungeon yesterday where I had to somewhat snap at the archer for pulling the mobs instead of letting me pull lol. That being said I did my best to hold hate and my Philosophy is if is if its more than 1 mob and they aren't ALL attacking me then I make sure they all are. Again great post
That could be an XI veteran - ranges/bards/anyone with a RA in XI were the traditional "pullers" who would grab monsters, bring em home to camp, and let them sit around until it was time to kill. I'm a pulling bard in XI and it's a hard habit to break.
Lol yes I am a Veteran of 11 as well (Punchdrunk of Phoenix) many a days of pulling on my SAM. Being a tank this time around makes you look at things a lot different then my old dps days 8)
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