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[20:00:54] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'd kindly ask that you not talk in FC chat until the end. If you have questions, save em for the end please
[20:01:00] [FC] Urzol Thrush:and 2500xp for BOT
[20:01:32] [FC] Turks Forever:is it in vent?
[20:01:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok,so we only have about half of our members online or in vent, so this will be a brief meeting
[20:02:03] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:is it meeting time yet
[20:02:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we will have something more in depth once the servers get sorted out and more people can get on
[20:02:07] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:02:08] [FC] Bartel Hayward:starting now
[20:02:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Tonight we're just going to cover some of the more important topics such as leadership, guild direction, forums, etc
[20:03:05] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the first, and most important topic is guild leadership
[20:03:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:My proposal, and this is subject to change based on all your input post-meeting, is that we have something like a council, where we elect 8-10 "officers" to run the shell on equal terms
[20:04:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:They will be almost like departments for the shell, such as endgame, crafting, gathering, etc
[20:05:08] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we can discuss it further and really flesh it out after the meeting and during the next couple days/weeks
[20:05:34] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but realistically, we need to get some people into these positions very quickly, as it is a very difficult job trying to coordinate 200+ people
[20:06:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:so as soon as this meeting finishes, we'll open it up to suggestions for who we think might fit this idea
[20:06:43] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if you think you'd like to be considered, put your own name in the ring
[20:07:01] [FC] Amarok Goodfellow:I would like to be considered
[20:07:04] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I can tell you now, I already have asked Thayos, one of the admins on ZAM, to help out in a leadership role
[20:07:28] [FC] Bartel Hayward:please save for the end, we'll have an open discussion then, thank you
[20:08:10] [FC] Bartel Hayward:For now, I plan to give full control of FC also to Thayos, to help out with donations, etc
[20:08:59] [FC] Bartel Hayward:So think about who you think would be a good leader,and we'll take some nominations after the meeting
[20:09:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Moving on, guild direction
[20:09:38] [FC] Bartel Hayward:This is a casual FC
[20:09:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:however, there are those here who would like to do things like endgame content
[20:10:01] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and probably a fair number who are more hardcore than most in the shell
[20:10:16] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we also have a fair number of crafters, gatherers, pvp players etc
[20:10:51] [FC] Bartel Hayward:in order to accomodate all these types of players, I think it would be a great idea to use linkshells as a way to form smaller communities for certain types of play
[20:11:15] [FC] Bartel Hayward:for instance, an endgame linkshell, a crafting/gathering linkshell, a pvp linkshell
[20:11:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:these can be used to coordinate events, and also work towards common goals
[20:11:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it will also give us a place to talk outside of FC so it is not constantly spammed
[20:12:01] [FC] Bartel Hayward:bah, need a 2 minute afk... fiance aggro
[20:12:12] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:12:20] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:all hail Bartel!
[20:12:24] [FC] Urzol Thrush:lol Impossible to Gague
[20:12:25] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall: /blist add <fiance>
[20:12:26] [FC] Malloc Array:<grin>
[20:12:33] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:lol nighthawk
[20:12:38] [FC] Bartel Hayward:haha ok I'm back :P
[20:12:44] [FC] Egg Shen:how the mighty are laid low by the more powerful
[20:12:49] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: wb lol
[20:12:54] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and meeting is gonna need to be even shorter now, she wants to talk about wedding sh*t lol
[20:13:02] [FC] Autumn Klmbkvist:aww
[20:13:05] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:lol
[20:13:07] [FC] Michael Tyrael:/facepalm :P
[20:13:08] [FC] Luna Solarian:\o/
[20:13:11] [FC] Bartel Hayward:anyways...back to it!
[20:13:11] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:vegas
[20:13:13] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I dont know how you manage
[20:13:18] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall: /run away <finace>
[20:13:20] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Gil will be used to buy plots of land for your own home. Along with an FC HQ
[20:13:23] [FC] Bezzet Serlien:hey weddings are important D=
[20:13:25] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:bah mt
[20:13:37] [FC] Bartel Hayward:that's the basic proposal for linkshells and coordinating events
[20:14:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'd really like us to be the best FC on Ultros, and I think this is a way to utilize the FC as the whole, while still giving each section of the game it's own place to get together
[20:14:49] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, next up, conduct and guidelines
[20:15:05] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if you haven't seen it yet, it has been posted on both zam and on our lodestone forums
[20:15:24] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:we have a lodestone forums?
[20:15:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it is an outline of the basic policies of the company, and some general guidelines I'd expect all members to follow
[20:15:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:yep, if you log in with your character into the lodestone, you will see it on your character profile page
[20:16:03] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:thxs
[20:16:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Please make sure you read the guidelines carefully
[20:16:51] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If you aren't willing to follow them,I'd kindly ask that you drop the FC. We don't want drama in here, we just want a fun community to work together in achieving all of our goals
[20:17:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:that said, if you have ANY kind of problem with something that happens in-shell or in-game, please contact me or Thayos via tell
[20:17:49] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:or any admin once theyve been voted in :D
[20:17:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we will do everything we can to fix the problem
[20:18:02] [FC] Bartel Hayward:yes, when that happens, definitely
[20:18:35] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If you have anything to add to the code of conduct that you think is appropriate, let me know and we'll see about getting it amended
[20:18:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, that covers that
[20:19:00] [FC] Cilia Maroth:First up
[20:19:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:sorry if I'm going to fast through things,I want this meeting brief
[20:19:10] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:its all good
[20:19:16] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:19:26] [FC] Cilia Maroth:When you say leader you mean like second in command types because I think everyone here thinks of you as the "Leader"
[20:19:44] [FC] Cilia Maroth:are you wanting us to put name forth for captain/commander type positions?
[20:19:47] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:agreed
[20:19:47] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:thats why I said Admin.
[20:19:54] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:think of leader as a supervisorly role yes/no?
[20:20:11] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Initially I hadn't planned on staying as the leader, but I am going to leave that up to all of you. If you'd like me to stay on in that capacity, I will gladly do so
[20:20:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we can discuss it after the end of the meeting
[20:20:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:next topic is simply the forums.
[20:20:53] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the lodestone forums are "ok" for us
[20:21:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but they are pretty slow and rather cumbersome
[20:21:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I feel like for a group this large we really want to have our own unique forums, but I will also be taking feedback on that
[20:21:34] [FC] Bartel Hayward:after the meeting
[20:22:30] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok, so honestly thats just about it for the meeting for now
[20:22:42] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'm sure I've missed things, I'm sure lots of you have questions
[20:23:13] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:good start boss... [02F0D8]
[20:23:16] [FC] Baha Sunfire:calm that fiance aggro
[20:23:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:In terms of ideas for leadership positions, send me a tell if you're interested or if you think someone would be a good fit
[20:23:22] [FC] Cilia Maroth:Lets keep this orderly, first nominations for commander type people.
[20:23:59] [FC] Baha Sunfire:I think it would be appropriate to thank Bartel for his awesomeness
[20:24:00] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:what are the requirements for a leader?
[20:24:12] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:seconded
[20:24:15] [FC] Egg Shen:can't be a clown
[20:24:25] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:you pretty much need to be able to do the job and act like an officer
[20:24:25] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:Bartel you are great, stay as leader of Fc
[20:24:26] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:shoot...that leaves me out
[20:24:27] [FC] Cilia Maroth:activity should be good
[20:24:49] [FC] Duma Katosuki:chewe can be an officer!
[20:24:53] [FC] Turks Forever:does your lodestone log in suppose to be the same as your game log in?
[20:24:54] [FC] Duma Katosuki:i dont care to be
[20:24:54] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:Bartel should stay as FC Leader
[20:24:57] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the biggest need for a leadership member is someone who can keep a cool head
[20:25:29] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, so this is pretty cool,so far all of the people being nominated are the ones I was thinking as well,so it seems like we're on the same page :D
[20:25:34] [FC] Egg Shen:no Gordon Ramsey? >.>
[20:25:38] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lodestone login should be the same as you use to get onto the SE management site
[20:25:46] [FC] Turks Forever:There are no characters on this FINAL FANTASY XIV service account. Use of the Lodestone requires an account with at least one character.
[20:25:52] [FC] Turks Forever:thats what i just got ><
[20:25:56] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ruh roh
[20:26:00] [FC] Valefor Almasy:Turks make sure you're on the new lodestone
[20:26:04] [FC] Valefor Almasy:and not 1.0
[20:26:05] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:yeah I don't have any characters either apparently....
[20:26:06] [FC] Egg Shen:you don't exist mate
[20:26:09] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:sucks to be me
[20:26:18] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lodestone is hit or miss.... give it time
[20:26:25] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:not worried about lodestone
[20:26:43] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Question from vent.
[20:26:55] [FC] Bartel Hayward:also, apologies if I don't respond to your tell, I'm getting quite a few :P
[20:27:01] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I am here to contribute... let me know what you need and I will do what I can sir.. [02F0D8]
[20:27:02] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but I am noting them all
[20:27:03] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: "You mentioned donations, what roll with this play in the FC?"
[20:27:05] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:you asked for them :O
[20:27:10] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:mt-ish
[20:27:22] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I know,I just mean keeping up with responses lol
[20:27:29] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Members have the ability to Invite people still.. Can we change everyone from Leader to Member?
[20:27:29] [FC] Autumn Klmbkvist:donation of the fisting kind...
[20:27:32] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:that's a good question... after the FC housing, our money has to be good for something :P
[20:27:34] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:And then make new ranks?
[20:27:41] [FC] Turks Forever:dont really see a 2.0 lodestone it just sends me to the other one
[20:28:21] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, donations for the time being will be for housing
[20:28:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if we have an excess
[20:28:36] [FC] Luna Solarian:Might I also recommend making "Class Leaders"? These should be members that people could go to if they need help with their class.
[20:28:38] [FC] Egg Shen:strippers?
[20:28:54] [FC] Valefor Almasy:I used to run a pretty good sub system on donations a few years back. I can post up on forums for that though
[20:28:55] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we'll figure out what to do with it at that point
[20:29:05] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:set a new goal
[20:29:09] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:how close are we to the house?
[20:29:21] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:don't know how much it's going to cost... best guess is a mil
[20:29:29] [FC] Valefor Almasy:Dead, large houses are around 1 mil estimated, we have 350k so far
[20:29:41] [FC] Egg Shen:extra gil shall be sent to me and I will host parties and the guild house... plenty of coke and mithra to go around
[20:29:44] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: I took donation to mean IRL money. Should we elect to move to our own forums how will we finance this?
[20:29:54] [FC] Apollo Theos:i gotta head out for the night, Thanks Bartel, great first meeting... stay leader in my opinion. Take care all, see you all on in the AM!
[20:29:58] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:yea, just set milestones
[20:30:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I was still thinking free forums, just slightly better than lodestone
[20:30:18] [FC] Bartel Hayward:there are some very good ones out there that are free
[20:30:18] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:I'd imagine that depends on what kind of expenses we incur.. forum or voip server rentals, that sort of thing
[20:30:22] [FC] Janni Jovi:I can host forums if you'd like.
[20:30:30] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I saw somewhere, I think it was on BG. that SE said housing would cost as much as leveling 3 classes to 50. Which is about 250k gil per 50
[20:30:38] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:afk
[20:30:46] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok Janni, I will keep that in mind, thank you
[20:31:15] [FC] Bartel Hayward:does anyone have any thoughts on the proposal for the leadership council? Does that make sense for everyone?
[20:31:28] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:just to keep it reasonably sized
[20:31:29] [FC] Droxy Durango:makes good sense
[20:31:36] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I also LOVE the idea of class leaders. So we can help each other out. But mainly if its your main class.
[20:31:39] [FC] Valefor Almasy:8 seems reasonable
[20:31:40] [FC] Turks Forever:whoever gets lvl 50 miner first gets leader, He who has the most patience :)
[20:31:40] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:8-10 people seems like a good estimate
[20:31:42] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:makes sence to me and Betty, so we say go for it
[20:31:46] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Yes, I absolutely agree on class leader idea
[20:31:58] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: Do you plan on having IRL meet ups for the LS/ FC? I've been to some of these in other games and find them fun.
[20:31:59] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:including the leader
[20:32:08] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:class leader is cool
[20:32:09] [FC] Egg Shen:oh dear god
[20:32:26] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:xD
[20:32:32] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If people are willing, IRL meet ups sound good to me
[20:32:35] [FC] Boj Bgood:Nobody will ever want to meet me
[20:32:39] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Dorgon: Aye makes sence
[20:32:41] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[20:32:42] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lol
[20:32:48] [FC] Egg Shen:and they never saw him or his lalfell again
[20:32:53] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I live in Indiana! Where are all mah midwest peeps at?!?!?!
[20:32:53] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:09/01 20:32:39 Rocio Giret: Will you be able to handle 8-10 of them?
[20:32:56] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:lol
[20:33:15] [FC] Egg Shen:indiana... north or south?
[20:33:23] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:also for endgame content will you be making a 8 man and a 24 man leader?
[20:33:23] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Naptown
[20:33:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:what are peoples thoughts on the linkshell idea for different facets of the game? Does that seem like the best option?
[20:33:28] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Indianapolis.
[20:33:32] [FC] Turks Forever:ha i live in kentucky lance :P
[20:33:39] [FC] Duma Katosuki:that sounds good especially for pvp
[20:33:41] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Midwest meet up!
[20:33:47] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:gencon
[20:33:48] [FC] Valefor Almasy:yeah, it works well with how the new chat systems are set up
[20:33:51] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Ealil, the instances are tiered, odds are you'd need 3 8-man groups clearing coil and then joined up as a 24-man group for tower
[20:33:52] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'm thinking endgame will probably have several leaders, like an overall leader and possibly each of the class leaders if they are willing
[20:33:54] [FC] Michael Tyrael:yes definitely, keep everything organized
[20:33:56] [FC] Egg Shen:pittsburgh here, gf in Chicago though
[20:34:03] [FC] Valefor Almasy:won't have to switch between FC and ls
[20:34:07] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:End Game, Crafting, PVP. Those are the main linkshells.
[20:34:11] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:it does, only thought will be coordinating with the endgame one and pvp for events when people are in many
[20:34:12] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:different aspect LS idea is very good
[20:34:16] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Bartel, makes sense... it's bass-akwards because that's what FCs are for, but for our situation it makes sense
[20:34:17] [FC] Luna Solarian:Linkshells are a good idea. They're so diverse that you could have class linkshells, activity linkshells, etc.
[20:34:30] [FC] Janni Jovi:Well there is a limitation to linkshells.
[20:34:39] [FC] Rayve Mendicant:or maybe a separate rank for them
[20:34:46] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:You can also store more than 1 linkshell. So being in all of them is fine. You'd just have to color code each one
[20:34:46] [FC] Luna Solarian:True.. you can only have 8...
[20:35:00] [FC] Rayve Mendicant:aww my FC chat is lagging behind =/
[20:35:05] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: I like the idea of multiple specialized LSes. I am concerned for how the end game LS and PVP LS will handel their particulars in regards to loots and how to obtain them
[20:35:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the loot system for those groups will be decided by the groups
[20:35:33] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:loot systems are a bridge that can be burned later
[20:35:39] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:we aren't at that point yet
[20:35:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we get there also
[20:35:50] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:agreed, loot should be left to those groups only
[20:36:05] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Once we have enough people who CAN even raid.. then we will talk how loot will work.
[20:36:13] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:But as of right now I think Im the only one even able to.
[20:36:23] [FC] Bartel Hayward:exactly, i think lance is the only 50 we even have so far :P
[20:36:30] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:damn you Lance you being awesome
[20:36:35] [FC] Bartel Hayward:so unless he wants to solo raid, we'll wait a bit :D
[20:36:35] [FC] Duma Katosuki:im 44! :(
[20:36:37] [FC] Boj Bgood:II Turk
[20:36:40] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:AND I have a 36! Step it up folks!
[20:36:40] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:hes suppose to be PL the rest of us but is slacking
[20:36:41] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:LOL
[20:36:45] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:him and his fancysauce
[20:36:51] [FC] Delyne Nitsu:44 aswell
[20:36:56] [FC] Boj Bgood:is 50
[20:36:57] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:his sauce is made in New York City
[20:36:59] [FC] Droxy Durango:get some sleep Lane!
[20:37:03] [FC] Droxy Durango:*Lance
[20:37:04] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok,does anyone have any general questions about anything else?
[20:37:05] [FC] Dahlia Pridewarden:trying right now, still 38 :(
[20:37:10] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:NEW YORK CITY?!
[20:37:14] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Sleep is for the week
[20:37:16] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Weak
[20:37:17] [FC] Egg Shen:lane.... lmao
[20:37:19] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Wow Im tired
[20:37:35] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I'm clear...
[20:37:59] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Bartel, doesn't seem like it... anyone who doesn't already visit the Zam forums should make an account over there too. Until we get our own set up, that's a good place for ideas to be bounced around
[20:38:15] [FC] Valefor Almasy:clear. think we'll have a lot more once we're all on here more regularly
[20:38:20] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:yeah i got a question about the class leader. What does that person actually do? Or be responsible for
[20:38:38] [FC] Luna Solarian:Probably helping people out with questions regarding the class
[20:38:42] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Marcy, a class leader should be an expert on their class and job(s). They should be able to assist and help other members of their class
[20:38:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:mentoring others, answering questions about the class, possibly coming up with guides, etc
[20:38:59] [FC] Janni Jovi:There's just one concern I'd like to bring up -- it'd be nice if we could revert to using LS chat over FC chat.
[20:39:01] [FC] Luna Solarian:For example: WHM/CNJ > Healing rotation, gear advice, etc.
[20:39:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it needs to be someone who is an expert on all things related to that class/job
[20:39:07] [FC] Egg Shen:ORCHID
[20:39:12] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Janni, LSes are limited to 128 people
[20:39:17] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:i c
[20:39:26] [FC] Janni Jovi:oh, good point
[20:39:42] [FC] Egg Shen:whm gear? lmao... they are lucky we are healing the party
[20:39:50] [FC] Zalnier Azure:a bit off topic but does anyone know of resource online listing all quests by level?
[20:40:01] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:xivdb will eventually... right now it doesn't
[20:40:10] [FC] Ghost Orchid:Wowza I'm here! Hello friends!
[20:40:12] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:not sure of any solid one yet with only a week into release
[20:40:21] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:you missed it Ghost, we already ate all the bacon
[20:40:22] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok,I'm gonna go deal with fiance aggro, if you have any other questions either mail them to me, or post them on the forums in the meeting post
[20:01:00] [FC] Urzol Thrush:and 2500xp for BOT
[20:01:32] [FC] Turks Forever:is it in vent?
[20:01:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok,so we only have about half of our members online or in vent, so this will be a brief meeting
[20:02:03] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:is it meeting time yet
[20:02:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we will have something more in depth once the servers get sorted out and more people can get on
[20:02:07] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:02:08] [FC] Bartel Hayward:starting now
[20:02:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Tonight we're just going to cover some of the more important topics such as leadership, guild direction, forums, etc
[20:03:05] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the first, and most important topic is guild leadership
[20:03:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:My proposal, and this is subject to change based on all your input post-meeting, is that we have something like a council, where we elect 8-10 "officers" to run the shell on equal terms
[20:04:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:They will be almost like departments for the shell, such as endgame, crafting, gathering, etc
[20:05:08] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we can discuss it further and really flesh it out after the meeting and during the next couple days/weeks
[20:05:34] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but realistically, we need to get some people into these positions very quickly, as it is a very difficult job trying to coordinate 200+ people
[20:06:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:so as soon as this meeting finishes, we'll open it up to suggestions for who we think might fit this idea
[20:06:43] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if you think you'd like to be considered, put your own name in the ring
[20:07:01] [FC] Amarok Goodfellow:I would like to be considered
[20:07:04] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I can tell you now, I already have asked Thayos, one of the admins on ZAM, to help out in a leadership role
[20:07:28] [FC] Bartel Hayward:please save for the end, we'll have an open discussion then, thank you
[20:08:10] [FC] Bartel Hayward:For now, I plan to give full control of FC also to Thayos, to help out with donations, etc
[20:08:59] [FC] Bartel Hayward:So think about who you think would be a good leader,and we'll take some nominations after the meeting
[20:09:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Moving on, guild direction
[20:09:38] [FC] Bartel Hayward:This is a casual FC
[20:09:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:however, there are those here who would like to do things like endgame content
[20:10:01] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and probably a fair number who are more hardcore than most in the shell
[20:10:16] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we also have a fair number of crafters, gatherers, pvp players etc
[20:10:51] [FC] Bartel Hayward:in order to accomodate all these types of players, I think it would be a great idea to use linkshells as a way to form smaller communities for certain types of play
[20:11:15] [FC] Bartel Hayward:for instance, an endgame linkshell, a crafting/gathering linkshell, a pvp linkshell
[20:11:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:these can be used to coordinate events, and also work towards common goals
[20:11:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it will also give us a place to talk outside of FC so it is not constantly spammed
[20:12:01] [FC] Bartel Hayward:bah, need a 2 minute afk... fiance aggro
[20:12:12] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:12:20] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:all hail Bartel!
[20:12:24] [FC] Urzol Thrush:lol Impossible to Gague
[20:12:25] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall: /blist add <fiance>
[20:12:26] [FC] Malloc Array:<grin>
[20:12:33] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:lol nighthawk
[20:12:38] [FC] Bartel Hayward:haha ok I'm back :P
[20:12:44] [FC] Egg Shen:how the mighty are laid low by the more powerful
[20:12:49] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: wb lol
[20:12:54] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and meeting is gonna need to be even shorter now, she wants to talk about wedding sh*t lol
[20:13:02] [FC] Autumn Klmbkvist:aww
[20:13:05] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:lol
[20:13:07] [FC] Michael Tyrael:/facepalm :P
[20:13:08] [FC] Luna Solarian:\o/
[20:13:11] [FC] Bartel Hayward:anyways...back to it!
[20:13:11] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:vegas
[20:13:13] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I dont know how you manage
[20:13:18] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall: /run away <finace>
[20:13:20] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Gil will be used to buy plots of land for your own home. Along with an FC HQ
[20:13:23] [FC] Bezzet Serlien:hey weddings are important D=
[20:13:25] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:bah mt
[20:13:37] [FC] Bartel Hayward:that's the basic proposal for linkshells and coordinating events
[20:14:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'd really like us to be the best FC on Ultros, and I think this is a way to utilize the FC as the whole, while still giving each section of the game it's own place to get together
[20:14:49] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, next up, conduct and guidelines
[20:15:05] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if you haven't seen it yet, it has been posted on both zam and on our lodestone forums
[20:15:24] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:we have a lodestone forums?
[20:15:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it is an outline of the basic policies of the company, and some general guidelines I'd expect all members to follow
[20:15:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:yep, if you log in with your character into the lodestone, you will see it on your character profile page
[20:16:03] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:thxs
[20:16:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Please make sure you read the guidelines carefully
[20:16:51] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If you aren't willing to follow them,I'd kindly ask that you drop the FC. We don't want drama in here, we just want a fun community to work together in achieving all of our goals
[20:17:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:that said, if you have ANY kind of problem with something that happens in-shell or in-game, please contact me or Thayos via tell
[20:17:49] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:or any admin once theyve been voted in :D
[20:17:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we will do everything we can to fix the problem
[20:18:02] [FC] Bartel Hayward:yes, when that happens, definitely
[20:18:35] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If you have anything to add to the code of conduct that you think is appropriate, let me know and we'll see about getting it amended
[20:18:50] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, that covers that
[20:19:00] [FC] Cilia Maroth:First up
[20:19:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:sorry if I'm going to fast through things,I want this meeting brief
[20:19:10] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:its all good
[20:19:16] [FC] Ronyn Olorin: /
[20:19:26] [FC] Cilia Maroth:When you say leader you mean like second in command types because I think everyone here thinks of you as the "Leader"
[20:19:44] [FC] Cilia Maroth:are you wanting us to put name forth for captain/commander type positions?
[20:19:47] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:agreed
[20:19:47] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:thats why I said Admin.
[20:19:54] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:think of leader as a supervisorly role yes/no?
[20:20:11] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Initially I hadn't planned on staying as the leader, but I am going to leave that up to all of you. If you'd like me to stay on in that capacity, I will gladly do so
[20:20:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we can discuss it after the end of the meeting
[20:20:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:next topic is simply the forums.
[20:20:53] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the lodestone forums are "ok" for us
[20:21:03] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but they are pretty slow and rather cumbersome
[20:21:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I feel like for a group this large we really want to have our own unique forums, but I will also be taking feedback on that
[20:21:34] [FC] Bartel Hayward:after the meeting
[20:22:30] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok, so honestly thats just about it for the meeting for now
[20:22:42] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'm sure I've missed things, I'm sure lots of you have questions
[20:23:13] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:good start boss... [02F0D8]
[20:23:16] [FC] Baha Sunfire:calm that fiance aggro
[20:23:19] [FC] Bartel Hayward:In terms of ideas for leadership positions, send me a tell if you're interested or if you think someone would be a good fit
[20:23:22] [FC] Cilia Maroth:Lets keep this orderly, first nominations for commander type people.
[20:23:59] [FC] Baha Sunfire:I think it would be appropriate to thank Bartel for his awesomeness
[20:24:00] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:what are the requirements for a leader?
[20:24:12] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:seconded
[20:24:15] [FC] Egg Shen:can't be a clown
[20:24:25] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:you pretty much need to be able to do the job and act like an officer
[20:24:25] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:Bartel you are great, stay as leader of Fc
[20:24:26] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:shoot...that leaves me out
[20:24:27] [FC] Cilia Maroth:activity should be good
[20:24:49] [FC] Duma Katosuki:chewe can be an officer!
[20:24:53] [FC] Turks Forever:does your lodestone log in suppose to be the same as your game log in?
[20:24:54] [FC] Duma Katosuki:i dont care to be
[20:24:54] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:Bartel should stay as FC Leader
[20:24:57] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the biggest need for a leadership member is someone who can keep a cool head
[20:25:29] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, so this is pretty cool,so far all of the people being nominated are the ones I was thinking as well,so it seems like we're on the same page :D
[20:25:34] [FC] Egg Shen:no Gordon Ramsey? >.>
[20:25:38] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lodestone login should be the same as you use to get onto the SE management site
[20:25:46] [FC] Turks Forever:There are no characters on this FINAL FANTASY XIV service account. Use of the Lodestone requires an account with at least one character.
[20:25:52] [FC] Turks Forever:thats what i just got ><
[20:25:56] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ruh roh
[20:26:00] [FC] Valefor Almasy:Turks make sure you're on the new lodestone
[20:26:04] [FC] Valefor Almasy:and not 1.0
[20:26:05] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:yeah I don't have any characters either apparently....
[20:26:06] [FC] Egg Shen:you don't exist mate
[20:26:09] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:sucks to be me
[20:26:18] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lodestone is hit or miss.... give it time
[20:26:25] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:not worried about lodestone
[20:26:43] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Question from vent.
[20:26:55] [FC] Bartel Hayward:also, apologies if I don't respond to your tell, I'm getting quite a few :P
[20:27:01] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I am here to contribute... let me know what you need and I will do what I can sir.. [02F0D8]
[20:27:02] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but I am noting them all
[20:27:03] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: "You mentioned donations, what roll with this play in the FC?"
[20:27:05] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:you asked for them :O
[20:27:10] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:mt-ish
[20:27:22] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I know,I just mean keeping up with responses lol
[20:27:29] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Members have the ability to Invite people still.. Can we change everyone from Leader to Member?
[20:27:29] [FC] Autumn Klmbkvist:donation of the fisting kind...
[20:27:32] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:that's a good question... after the FC housing, our money has to be good for something :P
[20:27:34] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:And then make new ranks?
[20:27:41] [FC] Turks Forever:dont really see a 2.0 lodestone it just sends me to the other one
[20:28:21] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok, donations for the time being will be for housing
[20:28:27] [FC] Bartel Hayward:if we have an excess
[20:28:36] [FC] Luna Solarian:Might I also recommend making "Class Leaders"? These should be members that people could go to if they need help with their class.
[20:28:38] [FC] Egg Shen:strippers?
[20:28:54] [FC] Valefor Almasy:I used to run a pretty good sub system on donations a few years back. I can post up on forums for that though
[20:28:55] [FC] Bartel Hayward:we'll figure out what to do with it at that point
[20:29:05] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:set a new goal
[20:29:09] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:how close are we to the house?
[20:29:21] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:don't know how much it's going to cost... best guess is a mil
[20:29:29] [FC] Valefor Almasy:Dead, large houses are around 1 mil estimated, we have 350k so far
[20:29:41] [FC] Egg Shen:extra gil shall be sent to me and I will host parties and the guild house... plenty of coke and mithra to go around
[20:29:44] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: I took donation to mean IRL money. Should we elect to move to our own forums how will we finance this?
[20:29:54] [FC] Apollo Theos:i gotta head out for the night, Thanks Bartel, great first meeting... stay leader in my opinion. Take care all, see you all on in the AM!
[20:29:58] [FC] Deadpool Xrage:yea, just set milestones
[20:30:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I was still thinking free forums, just slightly better than lodestone
[20:30:18] [FC] Bartel Hayward:there are some very good ones out there that are free
[20:30:18] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:I'd imagine that depends on what kind of expenses we incur.. forum or voip server rentals, that sort of thing
[20:30:22] [FC] Janni Jovi:I can host forums if you'd like.
[20:30:30] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I saw somewhere, I think it was on BG. that SE said housing would cost as much as leveling 3 classes to 50. Which is about 250k gil per 50
[20:30:38] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:afk
[20:30:46] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok Janni, I will keep that in mind, thank you
[20:31:15] [FC] Bartel Hayward:does anyone have any thoughts on the proposal for the leadership council? Does that make sense for everyone?
[20:31:28] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:just to keep it reasonably sized
[20:31:29] [FC] Droxy Durango:makes good sense
[20:31:36] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I also LOVE the idea of class leaders. So we can help each other out. But mainly if its your main class.
[20:31:39] [FC] Valefor Almasy:8 seems reasonable
[20:31:40] [FC] Turks Forever:whoever gets lvl 50 miner first gets leader, He who has the most patience :)
[20:31:40] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:8-10 people seems like a good estimate
[20:31:42] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:makes sence to me and Betty, so we say go for it
[20:31:46] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Yes, I absolutely agree on class leader idea
[20:31:58] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: Do you plan on having IRL meet ups for the LS/ FC? I've been to some of these in other games and find them fun.
[20:31:59] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:including the leader
[20:32:08] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:class leader is cool
[20:32:09] [FC] Egg Shen:oh dear god
[20:32:26] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:xD
[20:32:32] [FC] Bartel Hayward:If people are willing, IRL meet ups sound good to me
[20:32:35] [FC] Boj Bgood:Nobody will ever want to meet me
[20:32:39] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Dorgon: Aye makes sence
[20:32:41] [FC] Bartel Hayward:but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[20:32:42] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:lol
[20:32:48] [FC] Egg Shen:and they never saw him or his lalfell again
[20:32:53] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:I live in Indiana! Where are all mah midwest peeps at?!?!?!
[20:32:53] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:09/01 20:32:39 Rocio Giret: Will you be able to handle 8-10 of them?
[20:32:56] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:lol
[20:33:15] [FC] Egg Shen:indiana... north or south?
[20:33:23] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:also for endgame content will you be making a 8 man and a 24 man leader?
[20:33:23] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Naptown
[20:33:25] [FC] Bartel Hayward:what are peoples thoughts on the linkshell idea for different facets of the game? Does that seem like the best option?
[20:33:28] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Indianapolis.
[20:33:32] [FC] Turks Forever:ha i live in kentucky lance :P
[20:33:39] [FC] Duma Katosuki:that sounds good especially for pvp
[20:33:41] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Midwest meet up!
[20:33:47] [FC] Elzbeth Stargazer:gencon
[20:33:48] [FC] Valefor Almasy:yeah, it works well with how the new chat systems are set up
[20:33:51] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Ealil, the instances are tiered, odds are you'd need 3 8-man groups clearing coil and then joined up as a 24-man group for tower
[20:33:52] [FC] Bartel Hayward:I'm thinking endgame will probably have several leaders, like an overall leader and possibly each of the class leaders if they are willing
[20:33:54] [FC] Michael Tyrael:yes definitely, keep everything organized
[20:33:56] [FC] Egg Shen:pittsburgh here, gf in Chicago though
[20:34:03] [FC] Valefor Almasy:won't have to switch between FC and ls
[20:34:07] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:End Game, Crafting, PVP. Those are the main linkshells.
[20:34:11] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:it does, only thought will be coordinating with the endgame one and pvp for events when people are in many
[20:34:12] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:different aspect LS idea is very good
[20:34:16] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Bartel, makes sense... it's bass-akwards because that's what FCs are for, but for our situation it makes sense
[20:34:17] [FC] Luna Solarian:Linkshells are a good idea. They're so diverse that you could have class linkshells, activity linkshells, etc.
[20:34:30] [FC] Janni Jovi:Well there is a limitation to linkshells.
[20:34:39] [FC] Rayve Mendicant:or maybe a separate rank for them
[20:34:46] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:You can also store more than 1 linkshell. So being in all of them is fine. You'd just have to color code each one
[20:34:46] [FC] Luna Solarian:True.. you can only have 8...
[20:35:00] [FC] Rayve Mendicant:aww my FC chat is lagging behind =/
[20:35:05] [FC] Torokeru Senjo:Sister Fister: I like the idea of multiple specialized LSes. I am concerned for how the end game LS and PVP LS will handel their particulars in regards to loots and how to obtain them
[20:35:26] [FC] Bartel Hayward:the loot system for those groups will be decided by the groups
[20:35:33] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:loot systems are a bridge that can be burned later
[20:35:39] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:we aren't at that point yet
[20:35:48] [FC] Bartel Hayward:and yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we get there also
[20:35:50] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:agreed, loot should be left to those groups only
[20:36:05] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Once we have enough people who CAN even raid.. then we will talk how loot will work.
[20:36:13] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:But as of right now I think Im the only one even able to.
[20:36:23] [FC] Bartel Hayward:exactly, i think lance is the only 50 we even have so far :P
[20:36:30] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:damn you Lance you being awesome
[20:36:35] [FC] Bartel Hayward:so unless he wants to solo raid, we'll wait a bit :D
[20:36:35] [FC] Duma Katosuki:im 44! :(
[20:36:37] [FC] Boj Bgood:II Turk
[20:36:40] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:AND I have a 36! Step it up folks!
[20:36:40] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:hes suppose to be PL the rest of us but is slacking
[20:36:41] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:LOL
[20:36:45] [FC] Djakar Perihelion:him and his fancysauce
[20:36:51] [FC] Delyne Nitsu:44 aswell
[20:36:56] [FC] Boj Bgood:is 50
[20:36:57] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:his sauce is made in New York City
[20:36:59] [FC] Droxy Durango:get some sleep Lane!
[20:37:03] [FC] Droxy Durango:*Lance
[20:37:04] [FC] Bartel Hayward:Ok,does anyone have any general questions about anything else?
[20:37:05] [FC] Dahlia Pridewarden:trying right now, still 38 :(
[20:37:10] [FC] Ealil Stargazer:NEW YORK CITY?!
[20:37:14] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Sleep is for the week
[20:37:16] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Weak
[20:37:17] [FC] Egg Shen:lane.... lmao
[20:37:19] [FC] Lance Fancysauce:Wow Im tired
[20:37:35] [FC] Ronyn Olorin:I'm clear...
[20:37:59] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Bartel, doesn't seem like it... anyone who doesn't already visit the Zam forums should make an account over there too. Until we get our own set up, that's a good place for ideas to be bounced around
[20:38:15] [FC] Valefor Almasy:clear. think we'll have a lot more once we're all on here more regularly
[20:38:20] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:yeah i got a question about the class leader. What does that person actually do? Or be responsible for
[20:38:38] [FC] Luna Solarian:Probably helping people out with questions regarding the class
[20:38:42] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Marcy, a class leader should be an expert on their class and job(s). They should be able to assist and help other members of their class
[20:38:47] [FC] Bartel Hayward:mentoring others, answering questions about the class, possibly coming up with guides, etc
[20:38:59] [FC] Janni Jovi:There's just one concern I'd like to bring up -- it'd be nice if we could revert to using LS chat over FC chat.
[20:39:01] [FC] Luna Solarian:For example: WHM/CNJ > Healing rotation, gear advice, etc.
[20:39:07] [FC] Bartel Hayward:it needs to be someone who is an expert on all things related to that class/job
[20:39:07] [FC] Egg Shen:ORCHID
[20:39:12] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:Janni, LSes are limited to 128 people
[20:39:17] [FC] Marcy D'arcy:i c
[20:39:26] [FC] Janni Jovi:oh, good point
[20:39:42] [FC] Egg Shen:whm gear? lmao... they are lucky we are healing the party
[20:39:50] [FC] Zalnier Azure:a bit off topic but does anyone know of resource online listing all quests by level?
[20:40:01] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:xivdb will eventually... right now it doesn't
[20:40:10] [FC] Ghost Orchid:Wowza I'm here! Hello friends!
[20:40:12] [FC] Nghthawk Evenfall:not sure of any solid one yet with only a week into release
[20:40:21] [FC] Callinon Soulforge:you missed it Ghost, we already ate all the bacon
[20:40:22] [FC] Bartel Hayward:ok,I'm gonna go deal with fiance aggro, if you have any other questions either mail them to me, or post them on the forums in the meeting post
I tried to make that stand out, but it might suck on a really light-colored background. Can't tell.. I use the dark grey style.
EDIT: Changed the green text to large. I tried to find something that worked on all the Zam stylesheets but came up with nothing.
Edited, Sep 2nd 2013 12:26pm by Callinon