Smallest MMO world to date?Follow

Saw this earlier on another forum.

http://home.comcast.net/~nakomaru/ffmaps/ffComposite.png

Most of the zones shown are very small and act more like tunnels than zones, seems to be the smallest world in any mmo at launch. Not comparing this world to other mmos with expansions btw, comparing mmo worls at launch. Even comparing this to vanilla FFXI it's very small.

Added to the inability to swim and the many invisible walls it does seem more of a confined shoebox than an open world. I guess once you get to 50 it doesn't really matter since you never need to leave town ever again to do any of the endgame content anyway. Seeing as all worthwhile endgame content is dungeons you just queue in dungeon finder and never ever have any reason to go anywhere else except around town.

The map on that site is missing Coerthas and Mor Dhona, which at level 50 you should know, so I'd say it'a bout on par with the FFXI starting map; in fact it'll be smaller as Jeuno only had three adjoining maps. We already know there is an expansion in the works and there will be quarterly patches (I think that is right), which will no doubt mean more content, and all this has been redesigned and implemented in under three years which, in my mind, is utterly impressive. As for invisible walls, the only ones I've encountered are drops and cliff edges at map zones, so I can't comment on that.

And please, this f*cking, once you're fifty you never need to leave town b*llsh*t is exactly that: b*llsh*t. If you don't leave town at 50 it's because you choose not to develop your character the game was intended, i.e levelling multiple DoW, DoH and DoL classes. Save that crybaby drivel for the OF.

Edited, Sep 14th 2013 6:51am by SolomonGrundy

MNK is the only job I'm interested in taking all the way.

Here is the problem with crafting, everyone can cap crafting very easily. There is nothing you can make that a hundred others can't. Crafting is only worth it if it's like FFXI where small numbers get it to cap or it takes a lot of effort, otherwise it's worthless.

You're right about most crafting right now. Everyone's doing it and its very easy so no profit. Therefore...the profit is in gathering! Grab your tools and head out!

Other things you can do - Dungeon finder is 24/7, go run the dungeons constantly - try to get 4/4 foestriker's set or some other silly goal. Help the noobies.
Fish - its pretty cool and relaxing. There's tons of fishing spots and it takes you to all the corners of the zones.
Try to complete every FATE in the game.

i think what hes saying is theres no profit in crafting because everyone and their momma can/does do it.. i.e in FFXI you needed smithers or goldsmith to craft certain endgame items that costs millions of gil... only mybe 10-20 ppl had said crafts at 100 so finding said person was rare yet they were in demand and were paid millions for their services.. yet in FFXIV could you say the same if EVERYONE had that craft at 50? crafting in this game doesnt make yo nearly as rich as it did in FFXI because its easily assessable/doable by everyone


kind alike how mercing in FFXI also worked.. ppl would pay groups of ppl to kill pop NMs or quests to get items they wanted that were too hard to get (or their linkshell couldnt get).. that was another way to make money in FFXI.. in FFXIV there sno need for that because 99% of the content can be completed by any/everybody.. Just as Im sure that 99% of the population has Relic weapons in XIV.. Gimme something thats so hard/time consuming to get that you coan literally count the number of ppl who have them

Oh, yes, awkwardly floating through near-empty oceans is what we really need!

Pretty sure Rift was much smaller at their launch.

You could argue that its the least open world game to date, but then you would have to only compare it to open world games I guess. I mean you would have to ignore games like DDO and Neverwinter in that regard.

I prefer open world games, but its not a deal breaker. FFXIV's non open world and inability to transverse all terrain doesn't really detract from the game imo.

Also its not nearly as small as people make it out to be. Try running through all the zones, which you can do since they are linked...it will take you a while for sure.

Agreed that some of the maps seem to be rather small, while others seem to be quite large with few restricted paths.

Ill take a bug free instanced world game over a buggy open world game. Same goes for an open world game with nothing but filler landscape to a game like FFXIV with a high amount of world detail. Just depends on how they make the game. High quality bug free open world game with tons of detail and variation vs a game like FFXIV and id prefer the open world game, thing is, many open world game just staple together hubs with boring filler landscape with no purpose.

But no, not the smallest game world to date...not by a long shot...

Exactly this.

I don't mind invisible walls if the other choice is buggy/exploitable terrain. Plus, it follows the pattern established by offline FF games (FFXI as well, i suppose).

This thread is worthless -- WoW is waiting for you.

I disagree. I've made well over 500k gil just leveling armorer 1-50 with all the HQ gear I've made. It certainly helps that I've kept my mining right at that level also, so I gather my own mats for most of it, and I've also leveled most other crafts to at least 20 for support, but that just makes me self sufficient. It means I can craft my own gear (which saves me money), I can make HQ gear (which makes me gobs of money), and I can sell extra mats (which, depending on the mats also makes me gobs of money).

If you hit 50 and are just sitting around in town, you are really missing out on the vast majority of the game. Hunting for unspoiled nodes on your gathering classes, finding mats for 1 and 2 star recipes on lev. 50 crafting classes, heck even just killing mobs or fate grinding for soulbound items to turn into materia or for seals to buy up exp bonuses on other crafting/gathering classes, low level gear, high level gear, etc. Oh, then there's the vast amount of dungeons you can queue for while doing all this. AF quests, relic quests, etc... I'd say there's plenty to keep someone busy and not just sitting in town.

On a forum where it really does nothing at all, to boot.

EDIT: There's a Ford enthusiast club here in Phoenix that I know of. I'm going to walk in there and ***** about Ford's all day long. That'll show them. Because I'm entitled to my opinion and free to impound it on others.

EDIT 2: And then I'll ***** about how everyone ignores me, trashes my opinion, and call them all white knights. And then I'll blame the community for being a failure.

Edited, Sep 14th 2013 2:13pm by darexius2010

Edited, Sep 14th 2013 2:15pm by darexius2010