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I miss finding a cookie on my pillow in the inn. 
Scholar
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I would miss that too if I'd experienced it. That sounds like a lovely little polish feature. Then again, the way that my Roeg male collapses into his bed is pretty neat too. He's...so...exhausted after a day of adventuring that he can't even take his hat off.
Scholar
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funny this thread is here, i woke up this morning thinking i really wish i had played 1.0 haha :)
im only level 16 and so far my gf and i are REALLY into the story, and really excited to figure out what the heck is going on. im already falling in love with all the characters, kan-e-senna, nanamo, merlwyb, thancred, even louisoix even though hes SUPPOSEDLY not around anymore (omg no spoilers plssss hehe) and watching all the flashbacks makes me kinda sad that i'll never be able to play through the story leading up to the calamity
i guess i could watch some playthroughs of 1.0 on youtube, but i would have really liked to experience the story first hand. oh well :)
edit: lalalala
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 3:22pm by chillpickle
im only level 16 and so far my gf and i are REALLY into the story, and really excited to figure out what the heck is going on. im already falling in love with all the characters, kan-e-senna, nanamo, merlwyb, thancred, even louisoix even though hes SUPPOSEDLY not around anymore (omg no spoilers plssss hehe) and watching all the flashbacks makes me kinda sad that i'll never be able to play through the story leading up to the calamity
i guess i could watch some playthroughs of 1.0 on youtube, but i would have really liked to experience the story first hand. oh well :)
edit: lalalala
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 3:22pm by chillpickle
Ul'dah's original town music.
I still got the case and booklet. Don't know what happened to the CD heh.
Considering it's the last of FFXI's Original team's work, I consider it a collectable.
Oh YAY another fam player!
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 2:52pm by TwilightSkye
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 2:53pm by TwilightSkye
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funny this thread is here, i woke up this morning thinking i really wish i had played 1.0 haha :)
I still got the case and booklet. Don't know what happened to the CD heh.
Considering it's the last of FFXI's Original team's work, I consider it a collectable.
Oh YAY another fam player!
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 2:52pm by TwilightSkye
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 2:53pm by TwilightSkye
Speaking of inns... were you guys able to keep your tooth fairy weapons?
I only played for a month or two near the beginning.
The only things I miss are the Coerthas BGM and the "heft" or weight of the old character movement.
The graphics had a certain weight to them as well, as I think they just used higher quality textures.
I'm sure there were some things that Yoshi did with 1.0 later on that were cool, but I didn't stick around long enough to see them.
The only things I miss are the Coerthas BGM and the "heft" or weight of the old character movement.
The graphics had a certain weight to them as well, as I think they just used higher quality textures.
I'm sure there were some things that Yoshi did with 1.0 later on that were cool, but I didn't stick around long enough to see them.
Kierk wrote:
I only played for a month or two near the beginning.
The only things I miss are the Coerthas BGM and the "heft" or weight of the old character movement.
The graphics had a certain weight to them as well, as I think they just used higher quality textures.
I'm sure there were some things that Yoshi did with 1.0 later on that were cool, but I didn't stick around long enough to see them.
The only things I miss are the Coerthas BGM and the "heft" or weight of the old character movement.
The graphics had a certain weight to them as well, as I think they just used higher quality textures.
I'm sure there were some things that Yoshi did with 1.0 later on that were cool, but I didn't stick around long enough to see them.
Yeah, the old engine supported higher quality textures, but at the expense of requiring a $2000 box to run at max when the game first came out. Those of us on mid-level systems on 1,0 saw very **** poor performance at anything other than medium settings.
I think they've struck a good balance with the new engine. Fabric isn't quite as textured (no more discerning individual threads on a tunic!) but leather still looks like leather, wood still looks like wood, and skin still looks vaguely skin like. (Skin, too, suffered under the new engine, but giving people a nice skin-like glow cost an enormous amount of processing power.)
deadrabbit wrote:
Speaking of inns... were you guys able to keep your tooth fairy weapons?
As much as I was hoping this would slip through the cracks, no....I did not have my relic when they ported her over to v2.0.
Jophiel wrote:
Pack your own lunch and bring nothing but Pixie Stix and Pop Rocks and get your liberty on.
To keep it short and sweet...
-The Combat system, specifically by 1.23.
-The "worldly" feeling. Even though the level design is better, 1.x felt much more..like a world than ARR's, simply because Quest based systems ironically usually detaches you from the world a lot easier as 99% of the time you're doing it purely for exp/money/items. I felt more interested in the dialog in 1.x at times.
-The "XI" itemization, as in gear was more interesting to obtain and look at - "Enhances x ability", compared to just "Oh hey, here's your items, lol @ you wanting gear you worked hard for to do more than just toss numbers at you!..what? You wanted your relic to enhance your job like it did in 1.x? Silly girl."
-The Graphics/Animations. Yes they caused animation lock but you could blame that more on using an engine not suited for MMO design. I loved that there was POWER behind my attacks and movements, it felt more like a battle, ARR's system and many other MMOs like it just feels like pressing buttons.
-Music. Which FF game didn't have looped music or dungeon music that played throughout? Even XI did in appropriate dungeons.
So while ARR is an improvement over 1.x by basically being a copy of every MMO for the past half decade, it still feels like it's missing...a certain charm 1.x had even in the state it was in.
-The Combat system, specifically by 1.23.
-The "worldly" feeling. Even though the level design is better, 1.x felt much more..like a world than ARR's, simply because Quest based systems ironically usually detaches you from the world a lot easier as 99% of the time you're doing it purely for exp/money/items. I felt more interested in the dialog in 1.x at times.
-The "XI" itemization, as in gear was more interesting to obtain and look at - "Enhances x ability", compared to just "Oh hey, here's your items, lol @ you wanting gear you worked hard for to do more than just toss numbers at you!..what? You wanted your relic to enhance your job like it did in 1.x? Silly girl."
-The Graphics/Animations. Yes they caused animation lock but you could blame that more on using an engine not suited for MMO design. I loved that there was POWER behind my attacks and movements, it felt more like a battle, ARR's system and many other MMOs like it just feels like pressing buttons.
-Music. Which FF game didn't have looped music or dungeon music that played throughout? Even XI did in appropriate dungeons.
So while ARR is an improvement over 1.x by basically being a copy of every MMO for the past half decade, it still feels like it's missing...a certain charm 1.x had even in the state it was in.
The quality of animations for sure, as others have said. I love how the old system made your character have real inertia, leaning into turns, scraping up at quick stops etc.
I also miss some of the music, but hoping that they re-use some tracks. At the time I was so sick of hearing the Van Halen-esque battle music but it could be a cracking boss piece in 2.0. I also loved the meshing of the old Toto-Rak ambient/battle music and thought it was very cleverly done.
EDIT! To add one more thing, and this is something 2.0 will never (hopefully never, paradoxically) have in the same sense, was the feeling of approaching doom. The whole "world will end in X days unless we do something about it!" plot is used all the time, and no matter how well it is done we as an audience always knows that somehow it'll work out and things will be OK. Those months leading up to the end of 1.0 with Dalamud getting larger and larger each patch, coupled with the fact that we knew things were not going to be OK was an interesting feeling. Very unique, and gave us that feeling of helplessness that your character would be feeling too. The culmination of the fighting at the end (well OK, I got to play maybe 10 mins of it without dropping?) then watching the released scene afterwards left me feeling "Well, balls. We failed."
The last time the bad guys succeeded to that level was in 6!
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 7:28pm by Kordain
I also miss some of the music, but hoping that they re-use some tracks. At the time I was so sick of hearing the Van Halen-esque battle music but it could be a cracking boss piece in 2.0. I also loved the meshing of the old Toto-Rak ambient/battle music and thought it was very cleverly done.
EDIT! To add one more thing, and this is something 2.0 will never (hopefully never, paradoxically) have in the same sense, was the feeling of approaching doom. The whole "world will end in X days unless we do something about it!" plot is used all the time, and no matter how well it is done we as an audience always knows that somehow it'll work out and things will be OK. Those months leading up to the end of 1.0 with Dalamud getting larger and larger each patch, coupled with the fact that we knew things were not going to be OK was an interesting feeling. Very unique, and gave us that feeling of helplessness that your character would be feeling too. The culmination of the fighting at the end (well OK, I got to play maybe 10 mins of it without dropping?) then watching the released scene afterwards left me feeling "Well, balls. We failed."
The last time the bad guys succeeded to that level was in 6!
Edited, Sep 28th 2013 7:28pm by Kordain
I definitely miss the music from 1.0. I find the new Ul'dah theme too pompous and the new Gridania theme sound too much like the Lord of The Rings movie soundtrack, but I don't really miss the old Limsa soundtrack. How do I change the music files in FFXIV? In FFXI it was as simple as just replacing the .BGM file.
Solonuke wrote:
I definitely miss the music from 1.0. I find the new Ul'dah theme too pompous and the new Gridania theme sound too much like the Lord of The Rings movie soundtrack, but I don't really miss the old Limsa soundtrack. How do I change the music files in FFXIV? In FFXI it was as simple as just replacing the .BGM file.
Decompress > Find the .dat you want to change > Music is OGG format > Convert > Repack.
Bout it, the block for many is the Decompressing and repacking, but due to the music system SE went with, it's not going to play correctly unless you edit in the loops properly.
Actual boat rides. Makes no sense to have only 1 person occupying that huge ship...
Actual Fishing Mechanics. Not just flick and reel.
Having some real control over your shield.
I love the game, but I miss those features.
Actual Fishing Mechanics. Not just flick and reel.
Having some real control over your shield.
I love the game, but I miss those features.
I'm still trying to figure out songs for BRD. I'm not a fan of the cost of MP AND lowered DPS, and I really miss stacking songs. But, I'm getting better every day ^.^ Unless I'm missing something, I also miss seeking melds with icon overhead.
Scholar
41 posts
the more i hear about 1.0 the more i feel like i would have enjoyed it more :\
dont get me wrong, i love ARR and its a of fun but i feel like there are a lot of details missing that would make it unique and give it that final fantasy "feel", similar to the way ffxi was unique ya know. after reading an interview of yoshi p. where he was like 'we should have told the developers to make it like WoW in a final fantasy universe' i was kinda like
dont get me wrong, i love ARR and its a of fun but i feel like there are a lot of details missing that would make it unique and give it that final fantasy "feel", similar to the way ffxi was unique ya know. after reading an interview of yoshi p. where he was like 'we should have told the developers to make it like WoW in a final fantasy universe' i was kinda like
Free materials for crafting leves...
I miss early 1.0 Thaumaturge, with its damage reflect it was so broken but also a heap of fun. It was also the best healer at one point.
Combat was broken at release but I do remember my first near death experience when I encountered the ferocious feral Dodo.
Dodo's were actually very annoying at the time with their status effects but I took the feathered terror on, feverishly spamming phantom dart and chipping its health down bit by bit..when I thought all was lost.... my savior..... a glorious shining Gladiator joined the fray, this battle of epic proportions...... Not a word was spoken (typing while fighting was admittedly difficult in 1.0)
Defeating the Dodo only left us more bloodthirsty and we hunted for a few more hours then parted never to see each other again.
Combat was broken at release but I do remember my first near death experience when I encountered the ferocious feral Dodo.
Dodo's were actually very annoying at the time with their status effects but I took the feathered terror on, feverishly spamming phantom dart and chipping its health down bit by bit..when I thought all was lost.... my savior..... a glorious shining Gladiator joined the fray, this battle of epic proportions...... Not a word was spoken (typing while fighting was admittedly difficult in 1.0)
Defeating the Dodo only left us more bloodthirsty and we hunted for a few more hours then parted never to see each other again.
I miss some of the battle music.
Battle music - So much better then what we have currently.
Vast size of the world - I know we were technically zoning by running down the little paths, especially in Thanalan, but it just seemed more real.
Gathering - Imo Mining and Botanist were a lot better in 1.0. I'm not liking how I can run up to a node now and select what I want. The randomness of 1.0 gathering was more exciting, seeing a HQ item landing in your invent made me happier then now.
Battle mechanics - 1.23 had you thinking a lot more than the GCD we have now.
Graphics - Like people are saying you needed a top end PC, but even on slightly lower graphics it looked great,
Market Wards - Yes Yoshi has made some great improvements in 2.0, But at least we could buy single items from stacks!
Vast size of the world - I know we were technically zoning by running down the little paths, especially in Thanalan, but it just seemed more real.
Gathering - Imo Mining and Botanist were a lot better in 1.0. I'm not liking how I can run up to a node now and select what I want. The randomness of 1.0 gathering was more exciting, seeing a HQ item landing in your invent made me happier then now.
Battle mechanics - 1.23 had you thinking a lot more than the GCD we have now.
Graphics - Like people are saying you needed a top end PC, but even on slightly lower graphics it looked great,
Market Wards - Yes Yoshi has made some great improvements in 2.0, But at least we could buy single items from stacks!
Biggest thing I miss are 8 man exp parties. It was fun once in awhile to just team up and mow stuff down like in old school MMOs. Beyond that though, there's not much that was in 1.0 where I think to myself, "Ya, it was definitely better in 1.0".
I absolutely LOVED THM when the game launched. Phys level, being able to stack high astral or umbral, and if playing properly being able to destroy essentially anything on your own was amazing. I'm not a fan at all of the THM changes (and yet I main BLM currently, go figure).
Theonehio wrote:
-The "worldly" feeling. Even though the level design is better, 1.x felt much more..like a world than ARR's, simply because Quest based systems ironically usually detaches you from the world a lot easier as 99% of the time you're doing it purely for exp/money/items.
This.
The detached feeling is killing me. I miss feeling like an actual part of the world. I'm hoping slowing down and taking more time with it will help. It's such a beautiful world. I don't want to feel like I'm looking at it from a distance. I want to feel like I'm actually in it.
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chillpickle wrote:
the more i hear about 1.0 the more i feel like i would have enjoyed it more :\
dont get me wrong, i love ARR and its a of fun but i feel like there are a lot of details missing that would make it unique and give it that final fantasy "feel", similar to the way ffxi was unique ya know. after reading an interview of yoshi p. where he was like 'we should have told the developers to make it like WoW in a final fantasy universe' i was kinda like
dont get me wrong, i love ARR and its a of fun but i feel like there are a lot of details missing that would make it unique and give it that final fantasy "feel", similar to the way ffxi was unique ya know. after reading an interview of yoshi p. where he was like 'we should have told the developers to make it like WoW in a final fantasy universe' i was kinda like
1.23 wasn't as "Oh..this setup again *sigh* let me go and spam through some quest dialog, kill 5 mobs or collect 5-10 items and come back for my reward and repeat for 50 levels..oh the 5th quest leads me to a dungeon..? *Sigh* guess I'll do that too and repeat for 50 levels"
It had its share of problems there's no denying that, but in contrast, a lot of people's worries (mine included that got me the label of "troll" and "always negative") came true and well..here's ARR. A lot of people were hoping and honestly expecting 1.23 with a better foundation and expanded onto it, instead we got..just any other MMORPG. Whether you like or hate that is up to your personal preference.
Edited, Sep 29th 2013 7:55am by Theonehio
Aside from all the things listed above, I miss how there tended to be dozens of any given mob type to farm materials off of.
Right now for Weaver, I'm going through ridiculous amounts of fleece, and while in 1.0 there were something like 60 odd spawns of the karakul, now there's something like... 6?
Right now for Weaver, I'm going through ridiculous amounts of fleece, and while in 1.0 there were something like 60 odd spawns of the karakul, now there's something like... 6?
Although I like how most of the areas were remade, I really miss the original Coerthas. I loved just wandering around that map enjoying the view, and the much larger zones.The copy/paste that most people complained about didn't bother me as much. A few other things are the higher res. graphics and 1.23 combat.
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Theonehio wrote:
To keep it short and sweet...
So while ARR is an improvement over 1.x by basically being a copy of every MMO for the past half decade, it still feels like it's missing...a certain charm 1.x had even in the state it was in.
So while ARR is an improvement over 1.x by basically being a copy of every MMO for the past half decade, it still feels like it's missing...a certain charm 1.x had even in the state it was in.
I'm reminded of Castle Zhavl Bailey Keep.
Edited, Sep 29th 2013 11:04am by TwilightSkye
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