Titan HM ga taosenaiFollow

I went to do titan one day to finish off my WHM relic. Out of all the classeg in there healers have the hardest job. I have mad respect for them after doing it.

Anyway, on our 4th attempt of the night we had the heart down and got titan to about 10% with 3 out of 5 DD down. We managed to get a LB3 so the other whm was able to raise everyone to full. We get him down another 2% and hes all like "LOL thats a nice trick, check this out" and proceeds to stomp us into oblivion. Haha titan very funny.

Needless to say we lost that one and were a bit discouraged after coming so close (was a pickup group btw). We werent done yet though. We got him on the next run with no deaths that time.

Titan can be a real pain in the *** but it is a very fun fight. You get that feeling of satisfaction when you win.

This is a Japanese meme that originally referred to not being able to beat Airman.
It was then expanded to Rockman beating Airman, but failing to Woodman so going back to beat on Airman again.
As Titan is/was earth based I guess that makes him Rockman?

Edited, Oct 19th 2013 10:01pm by KissMyPixel

Titan = 50+ wins and Zero = 0 how's that for irony
Healer definitely have it tough that's for sure, my breaking point was like 15% with a pug first try and my stupid internet decided to d/c... A part a me died that night.

Dozens of tries. Dozens. My last fight, I was raised twice, neither 'took' I was like a Ghost standing there unable to move with zero hp. I watched the fight unable to contribute. I watched a group of great people, awesome healer and tank, just work that Titan no matter what he did.

Thanks to Duma, jy, Don, Genevive for sticking in there and helping me.

Here is some advice, after something like 200+ attempts I finally beat it with my 3 jobs (MNK, WHM and PLD), hence I feel I have some ground to offer specific advice, either way please feel free to ask if you have specific questions not covered in this post:

Rules:

Did you see avatar? like in pandora you have to cultivate a strong mental attitude and obey the rules... Titan Rules.

1) It really doesn't matter if you are a tank a DPS or a healer, you are not allowed to get hit by anything except tumults. the tanks, however also have to receive Mountain Buster.
2) Memorize the patterns, not because you can't get out of the way on reaction(I'm sure you can) because you will need them to follow the third rule.
3) Make a macro to announce your party that weight of the land is coming, this is really as far as you can go to baby-sit others in this fight, Rule two is important because you have to flawless, after a few times people will get use to your macro and missing a single weight of the land can cost you the fight, keep that in mind.

If you follow those 3 rules you will stop being a liability and from there is just a matter of time until you find a competent group that can clear it, as others have said playing healer in titan is significantly harder than Tank or DPS.

Critical parts and advanced tips:

The Heart:
There are really just 2 scenarios here, your group either can or cannot break it, the easiest way to tell the difference is: if everyone reached the heart part alive, used the LB and the heart didn't break that group simply does not have the damage or if you failed to meet those condition after 3 attempts your group simply does not have the skill/practice to break it. There are some strategies (Auto-attack during the first 3 phases to get LB lvl3) to break the heart even when you group lacks the required damage. I personally do not recommend them, because damage defines the duration of the last part and you want that to be over as fast as possible.

After Breaking the heart:
This is really the most critical part because Titan will receive you after his special move with the burning rage of a thousand suns, the move order right after the heart is:
Mountain Buster > Tumults (5) > Weight of the land
1) If you don't top your tank right away he will die to Mountain Buster.
2) If you don't top your tank after Mountain Buster he will die to Tumults.
3) And finally if you don't heal through tumults quick enough you will be caught in Weight of the Land.

Long story short, after you break the heart it's time to put on your gamer on face and show that ******* what you are made of.

During this last phase there is only one Gaol (rock jail) in Titan's rotation:
Gaol > Land slide > Mountain Buster > Tumults> Weight of the land > Bombs > Land slide > Mountain Buster > Weight of the land > (rotation restart) Gaol
Gaol: Break it asap.
Land slide: Dodge and get ready
Mountain Buster (Table flip):
@Tank: Precast a defensive ability
@Scholar: Cast Sacred Soil behind titan
@Everyone else: stay behind titan inside Sacred Soil
Tumults:
@White Mage: Medica 2 > Medica
@Scholar: Succor > Succor
@Everyone else: Get ready to run, but stay still until the last tremor
Weight of the land: needless to say but get out of the way.
Bombs:
@Tank: dodge the bombs, if she get hit by them she will die.
Landslide: Dodge
Mountain Buster (Table flip):
@Tank: this is what is going to kill her if she didn't dodge
the bombs.
Weight of the land: needless to say but get out of the way.

Special note for white mages, you have to reach at full MP and with shroud of the saints available to the last part after breaking the heart, otherwise unless you have a bard you will be out of MP before the fight ends. Pro tip, do not overheal the tank, she actually doesn't need that much healing before the last part.

Good luck!

Yeah you can't bust them out of the gaols until those plumes clear. And it is a 1/10 shot to stay alive after rez if you die. And if you think the plumes that titan puts down are difficult to exit due to latency, I have had severe troubles with ADS line aoe in bc2 and even worse trouble escaping the circular poison spit aoe from the goobue in WP. No matter how far I am out of the aoe I still get hit. One time in ADS I ran past two people, nearly double the width of the line, and still got hit but they didn't. Wierd.

But back to titan, the battle is a very long set of patterns. Be on the move when the plumes are about to hit. And learn the three line bomb pattern. So often when I try it with new teams I see that once the heart is passed, 1/3 die to the first set of stacked mass plumes because they arent moving, and the remaining third die to the first three line bomb pattern. And if your DPS cant get the heart pass 50%, think about restructuring your team. That is the only real dps "check" that must be passed to progress.

Edited, Oct 24th 2013 8:58am by Valkayree

Tried DF HM Titan this morning, got a nice group (wipe 3x but everyone still want to try to beat it), all of them typing/talking except me @_@ (all JP group), finaly on the 4th attempt we kill it

This is the 3rd kill of DF Titan :D (after soo many tries)

Even with great gear, it is surprisingly hard to collectively get 8 well geared people to get through that entire match without a single brain fart.

Just for fun I wanted to challenge your math here. ;)

So last night FC did Titan for a few hours straight. 6 fully geared and two new guys. Holy nuts.

Oddly enough it's that Phase 5 (after heart) that is the tough part. I learned the rest of the fight from video easily enough. I even have the gear to contribute at heart. After heart, knowing that ability rotation is essential.

I died either in the first 1/3, or the remaining 1/3, every time. ><

One thing i see a lot of is monks sitting in fire stance the whole time. Use earth stance for unavoidable dmg. (stomps/unavoidable weight of the lands) Lets be honest, occasionally you get the bad luck WotL and you are basically stuck in the center of 4 of them with no where to go.

I cleared titan last night in a pug and was pretty impressed. Getting past heart is cake, but what seems to get most pople is the 3 rows of bombs + land slide. There are some good videos online that show how to dodge it, but they only work if everyone does it.

Interesting. Tanking with a Titan Egi... Which is... A tank. I would be curious as to how you were able to allow the Titan Egi to get enough hate so the healers and the DD weren't stripping Titan off of them.

And using Titan to tank is nothing new. He is a tank.

I would also be curious as to how you were able to position him without the summoner dying, and how you got him to dodge the bombs.

Yeah, I love vids like this in that they make it seem like this is something that anyone can do without a tank. Though, they had a tank, the tank died, and the smn positioned their avatar there after the heart phase, and they then kept that healed.

Once the avatar died, the party started dropping like flies. They were within seconds of that fight going one way or another. They are definitely very skilled and good with the jobs to have pulled off that win.

I would not expect too many smn wins for a while. Though you can be sure that if people find a way to titan burn titan, we will probably be looking at a nerf bat shortly after.

That is hard. I've ran an AK with summoner / titan tanking. It works ok, until you have to move. Very difficult on Garuda battle. Titan may be possible since the tank doesnt move much in that battle. Hate is a different story. While possible, your dps really have to be aware of their hate meters and use quelling strikes where available.