Back in the halcyon days of FFXI, my LS and I often used Alla as a resource while simultaneously bemoaning the forum community as by-and-large asshats. The days of epic HNMLS drama, et al. That changed over the years as the game simmered down.
But my god.... The official SE FFXIV forums are the Mos Eisley of the Internet. I can't imagine how those people remember to breathe in between insults and self-aggrandizement. Never in my life have I seen so much bad attitude and outright resentment between players. Alla is slow, but the content is an absolute paradise in comparison. Even GFAQs is better by miles.
Who the hell are these people and where did they come from?
Keep rocking on, Allakhazam. You've got it right as far as a community.
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There are 3 types of people on the SE Forums:
1. The Elitist - This guy leveled to 50 within 4 hours of 2.0 being released. He has spent the last 2 months acquiring all the gear he can from Coil and berating those he encounter in Duty Finder AK/WP Runs for not having a Relic+1 and Full DL. Comes to the SE Forums to complain about how noobs taking 2 minutes longer to clear AK need to be removed from the game.
2. The Balancing Act - Comes to the forums namely griping about the rewards granted by the FATE System. Doesn't want anything nerfed but wants equality amongst the leveling paths. Hopes that the increased XP from Dungeons being introduced will assist players learning their jobs in a party setting instead of a "One Push I Win Button"
3. The New Guy - Comes to the forums asking for help even for some of the most obvious questions. Usually victimized by the Elitist and told to "L2P" is usually defended by The Balancing Act hoping to make a good player out of him.
1. The Elitist - This guy leveled to 50 within 4 hours of 2.0 being released. He has spent the last 2 months acquiring all the gear he can from Coil and berating those he encounter in Duty Finder AK/WP Runs for not having a Relic+1 and Full DL. Comes to the SE Forums to complain about how noobs taking 2 minutes longer to clear AK need to be removed from the game.
2. The Balancing Act - Comes to the forums namely griping about the rewards granted by the FATE System. Doesn't want anything nerfed but wants equality amongst the leveling paths. Hopes that the increased XP from Dungeons being introduced will assist players learning their jobs in a party setting instead of a "One Push I Win Button"
3. The New Guy - Comes to the forums asking for help even for some of the most obvious questions. Usually victimized by the Elitist and told to "L2P" is usually defended by The Balancing Act hoping to make a good player out of him.
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GavilrainOfGaruda wrote:
There are 3 types of people on the SE Forums:
1. The Elitist - This guy leveled to 50 within 4 hours of 2.0 being released. He has spent the last 2 months acquiring all the gear he can from Coil and berating those he encounter in Duty Finder AK/WP Runs for not having a Relic+1 and Full DL. Comes to the SE Forums to complain about how noobs taking 2 minutes longer to clear AK need to be removed from the game.
2. The Balancing Act - Comes to the forums namely griping about the rewards granted by the FATE System. Doesn't want anything nerfed but wants equality amongst the leveling paths. Hopes that the increased XP from Dungeons being introduced will assist players learning their jobs in a party setting instead of a "One Push I Win Button"
3. The New Guy - Comes to the forums asking for help even for some of the most obvious questions. Usually victimized by the Elitist and told to "L2P" is usually defended by The Balancing Act hoping to make a good player out of him.
1. The Elitist - This guy leveled to 50 within 4 hours of 2.0 being released. He has spent the last 2 months acquiring all the gear he can from Coil and berating those he encounter in Duty Finder AK/WP Runs for not having a Relic+1 and Full DL. Comes to the SE Forums to complain about how noobs taking 2 minutes longer to clear AK need to be removed from the game.
2. The Balancing Act - Comes to the forums namely griping about the rewards granted by the FATE System. Doesn't want anything nerfed but wants equality amongst the leveling paths. Hopes that the increased XP from Dungeons being introduced will assist players learning their jobs in a party setting instead of a "One Push I Win Button"
3. The New Guy - Comes to the forums asking for help even for some of the most obvious questions. Usually victimized by the Elitist and told to "L2P" is usually defended by The Balancing Act hoping to make a good player out of him.
4. The Douchebag - May be encompassed by any of the three groups at any time. Random pop timer ;p
5: The Title Holder - Demands that everything in the game, including you, revolves around them. If they have trouble, something is too hard. If they get bored, something is too easy. Anyone who disagrees is n00b trash and should kill themselves immediately.
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
7: The normal people/lurker - Usually just read the forums for the occasional good info and dont bother posting much sense most of the posts are full of people of category 1-6 and it seems like a waste of time. They usually have more fun playing the actual game.
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
Edited, Nov 5th 2013 6:01pm by aadrenry
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
Edited, Nov 5th 2013 6:01pm by aadrenry
DarkswordDX wrote:
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
I think this type annoy me the most. It's a game not a damn job, I'm trying to gear out, any yeah its nice to clear something as fast as possible, but I'm not going to flip out cause "OMG dps is soooo slow" and I also don't have a problem having to explain mechanics to someone new to the dungeon.
First and foremost I play to have fun, and blowing **** up on my BLM is fun whether **** dies in 1 min or 10 mins.
Got into a WP today, tank was trying to speed run, (as in pull everything possible at once) we wiped 3 times before the first boss, finally he slowed down and we cleared the rest of the dungeon in around 20 mins.
1. I was really surprised that he didn't leave,
2. I really wanted to say something along the lines of "if you had slowed down from the start we would have cleared faster" but I kept my mouth shut cause I mostly feel smart *** comments like that don't really solve anything and he really wasn't being an *** about it.
As it was, everyone thanked each other at the end and after the initial **** ups it was a perfect run.
aadrenry wrote:
7: The normal people/lurker - Usually just read the forums for the occasional good info and dont bother posting much sense most of the posts are full of people of category 1-6 and it seems like a waste of time. They usually have more fun playing the actual game.
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
Agree and agree.
There are a few very high quality posters there who just wade into that nonsense with knowledge and patience and answer questions. I have a lot of respect for those guys. Personally, that place wears me down. (Not to mention I feel it gives American's a very immature, selfish image on a somewhat international stage. NA players have much more to offer than just whining, right?)
Jeskradha wrote:
DarkswordDX wrote:
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
I think this type annoy me the most. It's a game not a damn job, I'm trying to gear out, any yeah its nice to clear something as fast as possible, but I'm not going to flip out cause "OMG dps is soooo slow" and I also don't have a problem having to explain mechanics to someone new to the dungeon.
First and foremost I play to have fun, and blowing sh*t up on my BLM is fun whether sh*t dies in 1 min or 10 mins.
Got into a WP today, tank was trying to speed run, (as in pull everything possible at once) we wiped 3 times before the first boss, finally he slowed down and we cleared the rest of the dungeon in around 20 mins.
1. I was really surprised that he didn't leave,
2. I really wanted to say something along the lines of "if you had slowed down from the start we would have cleared faster" but I kept my mouth shut cause I mostly feel smart *** comments like that don't really solve anything and he really wasn't being an *** about it.
As it was, everyone thanked each other at the end and after the initial @#%^ ups it was a perfect run.
My guess would be he assumed that's how the rest of the group was going to want to run it. Maybe, after 3 wipes, he realized he was going to be able to slow down and enjoy the run too :)
I think knowing what's coming with endgame right now is a big reason I've been focusing so much on crafting lol
8. The PC Fanboy - Consistently berates those on the inferior PS3 and locks them out of boss battles whenever he gets a chance. Then boots them from his party to the tune of "Get a Computer"
9. The BiS Gearfreak - Obsesses over every stat. i.e. Fishlegs from How to Train your Dragon. One day we will like these folks for their groundbreaking trial and error that we did not have to do.
9. The BiS Gearfreak - Obsesses over every stat. i.e. Fishlegs from How to Train your Dragon. One day we will like these folks for their groundbreaking trial and error that we did not have to do.
I don't mind #9s at all as long as they aren't also #4s.
If you're a good player and a good person and you have boss as hell gear, I'm going to want to emulate that and get myself better kitted out.
#8 is the current fad over in their GD. Sung to the tune of "PS3 Limitations are holding us PC players back!" I've heard everything from "PS3 should be dropped as soon as PS4 comes out" to "It never should have been released on PS3 in the first place. Stupid console casuals!" to "I know you're on PS3 by how long it takes you to skip a CS. If you're in my group I'm not pulling or tanking until you drop party!"
It's just... ugh.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 10:28am by DarkswordDX
If you're a good player and a good person and you have boss as hell gear, I'm going to want to emulate that and get myself better kitted out.
#8 is the current fad over in their GD. Sung to the tune of "PS3 Limitations are holding us PC players back!" I've heard everything from "PS3 should be dropped as soon as PS4 comes out" to "It never should have been released on PS3 in the first place. Stupid console casuals!" to "I know you're on PS3 by how long it takes you to skip a CS. If you're in my group I'm not pulling or tanking until you drop party!"
It's just... ugh.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 10:28am by DarkswordDX
DarkswordDX wrote:
I don't mind #9s at all as long as they aren't also #4s.
If you're a good player and a good person and you have boss as hell gear, I'm going to want to emulate that and get myself better kitted out.
#8 is the current fad over in their GD. Sung to the tune of "PS3 Limitations are holding us PC players back!" I've heard everything from "PS3 should be dropped as soon as PS4 comes out" to "It never should have been released on PS3 in the first place. Stupid console casuals!" to "I know you're on PS3 by how long it takes you to skip a CS. If you're in my group I'm not pulling or tanking until you drop party!"
It's just... ugh.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 10:28am by DarkswordDX
If you're a good player and a good person and you have boss as hell gear, I'm going to want to emulate that and get myself better kitted out.
#8 is the current fad over in their GD. Sung to the tune of "PS3 Limitations are holding us PC players back!" I've heard everything from "PS3 should be dropped as soon as PS4 comes out" to "It never should have been released on PS3 in the first place. Stupid console casuals!" to "I know you're on PS3 by how long it takes you to skip a CS. If you're in my group I'm not pulling or tanking until you drop party!"
It's just... ugh.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 10:28am by DarkswordDX
I think somebody telling me they would stop playing until I dropped party because I'm on PS3 would turn me into a bit of a jerk lol.
There's plenty of MMO's out there. If you don't like the fact there are people playing on PS3, you shouldn't be playing a console game ;)
I cannot tell if someone is using a PC or PS3 just from how they play.
I can, however, tell if someone is running with a mouse because it appears on my screen that they're running sideways, drunkenly.
I can, however, tell if someone is running with a mouse because it appears on my screen that they're running sideways, drunkenly.
LebargeX wrote:
Jeskradha wrote:
DarkswordDX wrote:
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
I think this type annoy me the most. It's a game not a damn job, I'm trying to gear out, any yeah its nice to clear something as fast as possible, but I'm not going to flip out cause "OMG dps is soooo slow" and I also don't have a problem having to explain mechanics to someone new to the dungeon.
First and foremost I play to have fun, and blowing sh*t up on my BLM is fun whether sh*t dies in 1 min or 10 mins.
Got into a WP today, tank was trying to speed run, (as in pull everything possible at once) we wiped 3 times before the first boss, finally he slowed down and we cleared the rest of the dungeon in around 20 mins.
1. I was really surprised that he didn't leave,
2. I really wanted to say something along the lines of "if you had slowed down from the start we would have cleared faster" but I kept my mouth shut cause I mostly feel smart *** comments like that don't really solve anything and he really wasn't being an *** about it.
As it was, everyone thanked each other at the end and after the initial @#%^ ups it was a perfect run.
My guess would be he assumed that's how the rest of the group was going to want to run it. Maybe, after 3 wipes, he realized he was going to be able to slow down and enjoy the run too :)
I think knowing what's coming with endgame right now is a big reason I've been focusing so much on crafting lol
Well was WP one of the dungeons you could like glitch through or something, as in having the tank run past all the trash to the bosses or whatever it was?? I remember hearing people talk about this but not sure how it was done or what dungeons it was in.
Either way, after the first wipe, the tank asked if they "Fixed this place" to which someone else responded yes. Then he just tried to pull like the first 3 pulls at once and we wiped, tried that one more time and we wiped again. Then he slowed it down a bit. The summoner in the group was pushing for him to go faster too, but he kind of shut up after we wiped so many times.
Jeskradha wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
Jeskradha wrote:
DarkswordDX wrote:
6: The Clock Puncher - Obsessed with speedruns and is absolutely adamant that not even a millisecond of "their time" be wasted under any circumstances, for any reason, by anyone. Will complain in the same breath about how long things take while also lamenting how bored they are because there's nothing to do. On their home planet "wasting their time" is an offence punishable by death.
I think this type annoy me the most. It's a game not a damn job, I'm trying to gear out, any yeah its nice to clear something as fast as possible, but I'm not going to flip out cause "OMG dps is soooo slow" and I also don't have a problem having to explain mechanics to someone new to the dungeon.
First and foremost I play to have fun, and blowing sh*t up on my BLM is fun whether sh*t dies in 1 min or 10 mins.
Got into a WP today, tank was trying to speed run, (as in pull everything possible at once) we wiped 3 times before the first boss, finally he slowed down and we cleared the rest of the dungeon in around 20 mins.
1. I was really surprised that he didn't leave,
2. I really wanted to say something along the lines of "if you had slowed down from the start we would have cleared faster" but I kept my mouth shut cause I mostly feel smart *** comments like that don't really solve anything and he really wasn't being an *** about it.
As it was, everyone thanked each other at the end and after the initial @#%^ ups it was a perfect run.
My guess would be he assumed that's how the rest of the group was going to want to run it. Maybe, after 3 wipes, he realized he was going to be able to slow down and enjoy the run too :)
I think knowing what's coming with endgame right now is a big reason I've been focusing so much on crafting lol
Well was WP one of the dungeons you could like glitch through or something, as in having the tank run past all the trash to the bosses or whatever it was?? I remember hearing people talk about this but not sure how it was done or what dungeons it was in.
Either way, after the first wipe, the tank asked if they "Fixed this place" to which someone else responded yes. Then he just tried to pull like the first 3 pulls at once and we wiped, tried that one more time and we wiped again. Then he slowed it down a bit. The summoner in the group was pushing for him to go faster too, but he kind of shut up after we wiped so many times.
That was Amdapor Keep. People were getting the tank to run past and aggro all the mobs while everyone tagged along behind until they would reach a boss, then everyone would hide while the tank died and was raised.
THESE ARE THE WARRIORS OF LIGHT.
When SE fixed this and made Wanderers Palace more desirable via increased tome drops, people started flocking to WP for a faster and less stressful run.
Droxy wrote:
That was Amdapor Keep. People were getting the tank to run past and aggro all the mobs while everyone tagged along behind until they would reach a boss, then everyone would hide while the tank died and was raised.
THESE ARE THE WARRIORS OF LIGHT.
When SE fixed this and made Wanderers Palace more desirable via increased tome drops, people started flocking to WP for a faster and less stressful run.
Well, my guess is that initially this is what he was trying to do, cause he pretty much just ran past everything and then died in the room with the second treasure chest in it
Annnd then there's number 10
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Torrence wrote:
Annnd then there's number 10
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Its definitely not as horrible as some would make it seem, I've been at 50 for a few weeks now and I've only ran into 2 or 3 complete ********. Find a good FC and just run with them.
Its not all rings and roses, thats for sure, but its definitely not a complete cesspool either, for as many "bad" players there are also good players willing to help.
I do have a feeling though, that having crystal tower in the DF may turn out to be a bad thing, I guess it just depends on how hard it ends up being.
In all fairness I've encountered impressively little douchiness in the actual game. I've had a couple primadonna tanks and the usual dumbass randoms. Thusfar my in game experience has been no worse than the old days of XI (sexual favors for the BRD to get him to join your party, the RDM leaving in a huff because you're only making 3.5k/hr in CN, DDs pulling hate, players messing up strats, etc.)
The forums and online community though.... Jesus its bad. REAL bad. Its like the worst parts of the rottenest people of the "old" BG elitist clique took over the entire XIV community. The official FFXIV forums aren't even a cesspool, they're the scrapings off the septic tank wall.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 1:56pm by DarkswordDX
The forums and online community though.... Jesus its bad. REAL bad. Its like the worst parts of the rottenest people of the "old" BG elitist clique took over the entire XIV community. The official FFXIV forums aren't even a cesspool, they're the scrapings off the septic tank wall.
Edited, Nov 6th 2013 1:56pm by DarkswordDX
BG was at least entertaining about it though. I used to live for posts by isladar, this one in particular being my all time fav.
Sure they were bullies, but they were also the best, and as a community we may have not liked them, but we respected them for the most part. Now it just seems like people are just going out of their way to ruin the game for others. That's not what the elitism of olde was like, at least not how I remember it.
isladar from bg wrote:
If you don't mind, I'd like to read an excerpt from The Book of Moblans, in Cross Server, chapter 7, verses 1 - 4:
[1] AND VERILY, yera, and foshure didst Tyrese overfloweth with lulz from his udders; udders heavy with the sweet nectar of total fail and blessed with the facepalms of a thousand of the Elect of BG. AND LO, there'st fain was ethuggery like of olde, for an 'e' at the end of **** doth make it more authentic, and truly there were plans and divinations to FITE upon the plains of some place in Canada, we think.
[2] FOR TYRESE didst beg that these allegations be presented before his countenance, and not amidst the tangle of the internet, so that it could be determined what would be to come.
[3] AND SATH didst make a :3 face irl, and laid his bounty before the Elect of BG, that they might be a WITNESS as he engaged the mammaries of a certain female in a place of dancing. LO, DIDST they see this, and consulted other books, OLDE BOOKS, like unto the Real_Nigga to Englishe Dictionairie, and they read, and knew joy.
[4]THUS WAS the Elect of BG pleased.
Real Talk.
[1] AND VERILY, yera, and foshure didst Tyrese overfloweth with lulz from his udders; udders heavy with the sweet nectar of total fail and blessed with the facepalms of a thousand of the Elect of BG. AND LO, there'st fain was ethuggery like of olde, for an 'e' at the end of **** doth make it more authentic, and truly there were plans and divinations to FITE upon the plains of some place in Canada, we think.
[2] FOR TYRESE didst beg that these allegations be presented before his countenance, and not amidst the tangle of the internet, so that it could be determined what would be to come.
[3] AND SATH didst make a :3 face irl, and laid his bounty before the Elect of BG, that they might be a WITNESS as he engaged the mammaries of a certain female in a place of dancing. LO, DIDST they see this, and consulted other books, OLDE BOOKS, like unto the Real_Nigga to Englishe Dictionairie, and they read, and knew joy.
[4]THUS WAS the Elect of BG pleased.
Real Talk.
Sure they were bullies, but they were also the best, and as a community we may have not liked them, but we respected them for the most part. Now it just seems like people are just going out of their way to ruin the game for others. That's not what the elitism of olde was like, at least not how I remember it.
Torrence wrote:
Annnd then there's number 10
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
The silent majority who do not post on the forums but who you will actually encounter in the game are, on the whole, nice people.
You should definitely consider returning. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Jeskradha wrote:
Torrence wrote:
Annnd then there's number 10
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Those of us who stepped away to let SE work out all of their issues, and are now taking another look to see if we can carve out a home here... We're running away screaming because the community, a community we were a part of for a decade in the making, has turned into a complete cesspool.
I wanted XIV to be more modern, but I definitely didn't want it to usher in a new age of dbaggery.
This forum is definitely a safe haven from most drama because of the unique karma system, but the stories even here of horrible experiences is really making me think twice about returning.
Its definitely not as horrible as some would make it seem, I've been at 50 for a few weeks now and I've only ran into 2 or 3 complete @#%^s. Find a good FC and just run with them.
Its not all rings and roses, thats for sure, but its definitely not a complete cesspool either, for as many "bad" players there are also good players willing to help.
I do have a feeling though, that having crystal tower in the DF may turn out to be a bad thing, I guess it just depends on how hard it ends up being.
I have experienced dungeon finder groups in wow since the concept was introduced in Cataclysm. None of the upcoming horrors in Crystal Tower will phase me.
I hope.
Any ideas on what the hell makes XIV so different? We had an online community back then every bit as big as WoWs (in the early days at least). And those who were asshats were known and widely disliked. They were there, but represented a small minority of the online community. In the XIV era it seems like they're 80% of the userbase, with the rest of the nice guys struggling against the tide.
Droxy wrote:
I have experienced dungeon finder groups in wow since the concept was introduced in Cataclysm. None of the upcoming horrors in Crystal Tower will phase me.
I hope.
Same here,
I was never a huge fan of the Raid Finder tool in WoW though, seemed like half the time the content was so easy you didn't really even have to understand what was going on to win (I actually fell asleep a few times lol). This was during Cataclysm though so I don't know if things have really changed since then. I really like the 8 man duty finder in ARR and always wished in Cataclysm that the raid finder was tooled around 10 mans vs 25. I do know that now they have some kind of smaller form of a raid finder in WoW.
I'm just guessing if people already can't handle having new players "slowing them down" in 4 mans, they are probably going to flip their lids in a 24 man. Like I said though, just depends on how hard the content is I guess, but the idea of coordinating 24 random players does seem a little daunting.
Jeskradha wrote:
Droxy wrote:
I have experienced dungeon finder groups in wow since the concept was introduced in Cataclysm. None of the upcoming horrors in Crystal Tower will phase me.
I hope.
Same here,
I was never a huge fan of the Raid Finder tool in WoW though, seemed like half the time the content was so easy you didn't really even have to understand what was going on to win (I actually fell asleep a few times lol). This was during Cataclysm though so I don't know if things have really changed since then. I really like the 8 man duty finder in ARR and always wished in Cataclysm that the raid finder was tooled around 10 mans vs 25. I do know that now they have some kind of smaller form of a raid finder in WoW.
I'm just guessing if people already can't handle having new players "slowing them down" in 4 mans, they are probably going to flip their lids in a 24 man. Like I said though, just depends on how hard the content is I guess, but the idea of coordinating 24 random players does seem a little daunting.
Many FC will find themselves recruiting to get that second or third BC team to coordinate and run the tower. If you have three teams right now that are successfully running coil into turn 4 or 5, you are doing pretty darn good.
aadrenry wrote:
7: The normal people/lurker - Usually just read the forums for the occasional good info and dont bother posting much sense most of the posts are full of people of category 1-6 and it seems like a waste of time. They usually have more fun playing the actual game.
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
Edited, Nov 5th 2013 6:01pm by aadrenry
It is pretty cool that they have a "Dev Tracker" section on the right side of the forum index page, so you can just look there to see the devs latest posts rather than wading through piles of nonsense :P
Edited, Nov 5th 2013 6:01pm by aadrenry
Hey thats me...
Yea the official forums are a cesspool..
Edited, Nov 7th 2013 1:04pm by Nashred
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