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#77 Dec 12 2013 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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LebargeX wrote:
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Yeah those are some pricey melds...but then again, he did say this was for an ideal setup. He also mentions ignoring the control on the offhand which will cut costs substantially if you use some HQ materials.

Overall, I think your guide was just fine Hairspray. Worked for me quite well (just needed the BSM at 50).


Glad to hear it worked for you :)

I can't wait til next week when I can start farming tomes solo (due to restricted play time). I'm also really anxious to see what the mat price drop looks like. I hope i'm not being too hopeful lol.


Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...

I'm glad you guys are able to take advantage of the information I gathered and compiled here for this at least.

Smiley: grin
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#78 Dec 12 2013 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah those are some pricey melds...but then again, he did say this was for an ideal setup. He also mentions ignoring the control on the offhand which will cut costs substantially if you use some HQ materials.

Overall, I think your guide was just fine Hairspray. Worked for me quite well (just needed the BSM at 50).


Glad to hear it worked for you :)

I can't wait til next week when I can start farming tomes solo (due to restricted play time). I'm also really anxious to see what the mat price drop looks like. I hope i'm not being too hopeful lol.


Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...

I'm glad you guys are able to take advantage of the information I gathered and compiled here for this at least.

Smiley: grin

Sorry to hear we won't be able to see you around more ><

If you are in need of stuff, make sure you say so. I think I still have some cobalt ore lying around ;)
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#79 Dec 12 2013 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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LebargeX wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah those are some pricey melds...but then again, he did say this was for an ideal setup. He also mentions ignoring the control on the offhand which will cut costs substantially if you use some HQ materials.

Overall, I think your guide was just fine Hairspray. Worked for me quite well (just needed the BSM at 50).


Glad to hear it worked for you :)

I can't wait til next week when I can start farming tomes solo (due to restricted play time). I'm also really anxious to see what the mat price drop looks like. I hope i'm not being too hopeful lol.


Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...

I'm glad you guys are able to take advantage of the information I gathered and compiled here for this at least.

Smiley: grin

Sorry to hear we won't be able to see you around more ><

If you are in need of stuff, make sure you say so. I think I still have some cobalt ore lying around ;)


Thanks, but I have plenty of resources, just not enough time to play like I want to :(


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#80 Dec 12 2013 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Hairspray wrote:

Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...



Tell me about it man. I feel the same way.
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#81 Dec 12 2013 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah those are some pricey melds...but then again, he did say this was for an ideal setup. He also mentions ignoring the control on the offhand which will cut costs substantially if you use some HQ materials.

Overall, I think your guide was just fine Hairspray. Worked for me quite well (just needed the BSM at 50).


Glad to hear it worked for you :)

I can't wait til next week when I can start farming tomes solo (due to restricted play time). I'm also really anxious to see what the mat price drop looks like. I hope i'm not being too hopeful lol.


Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...

I'm glad you guys are able to take advantage of the information I gathered and compiled here for this at least.

Smiley: grin


Just gotta set your priorities! :P My SO gives me 3 nights a week to raid/do whatever I want but expects me to spend time with them. So I generally do and everyone usually ends up happy.

Granted, I can agree that I probably play a little more than most.

Anyways, the reason why I liked your guide so much is that it required so few level 50 crafts. Right now, I now need 50 BSM (currently 45). However, if you look at the recommended rotation in that post, he requires comfort zone too! /cry

When does this rollercoaster ever end? T_T

On a side note, I crafted another vanya hat of healing today for my SCH. However, guess what happened this time around? I was sitting at 4 points away from completion on the progress meter. :( So, I had to gamble and use rapid synth. Fortunately:

http://i.imgur.com/jnZWRau.png

Granted, it was my fault for not HQing the vanya silk. I wasn't paying attention and an excellent procced which screwed up my rotation.

Anyways, BSM at 50 should fix this no problem.

Edit: But read below for some GSM rotation problems!

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 12:55pm by HitomeOfBismarck
#82 Dec 12 2013 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:

On a side note, I crafted another vanya hat of healing today for my SCH. However, guess what happened this time around? I was sitting at 4 points away from completion on the progress meter. :( So, I had to gamble and use rapid synth. Fortunately:

http://i.imgur.com/jnZWRau.png

Granted, it was my fault for not HQing the vanya silk. I wasn't paying attention and an excellent procced which screwed up my rotation.


Was that RS without active Steady Hand? :-o

That will make you butt tighten up.
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#83 Dec 12 2013 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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So for WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 9:55am by LebargeX
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#84 Dec 12 2013 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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Haha no you can see SHII on the bar before the synth completed. But it did have that effect, yes. :X

I need to mention something since I just crafted some GSM items for someone...

If you're going to craft something like rose gold bracelets, you don't have much leeway when it comes to HQing the mats for safety since..the mats are both 40 dura items and each item requires the 9 peacock ore. >_< It's a little nicer to us when it comes to WVR stuff, though. Still, melding 9 control into your OH will probably drive up the cost considerably.

Apparently you have a pretty high HQ rate with the rotation the link recommends...which requires ALC at 50 (and not BSM). Guess I'll just level them all then. ; ;

I could really use some advice on 40 dura 2 star synths! My rotation is a mess. I have access to Ing II now, though.
#85 Dec 12 2013 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Hairspray wrote:
LebargeX wrote:
HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Yeah those are some pricey melds...but then again, he did say this was for an ideal setup. He also mentions ignoring the control on the offhand which will cut costs substantially if you use some HQ materials.

Overall, I think your guide was just fine Hairspray. Worked for me quite well (just needed the BSM at 50).


Glad to hear it worked for you :)

I can't wait til next week when I can start farming tomes solo (due to restricted play time). I'm also really anxious to see what the mat price drop looks like. I hope i'm not being too hopeful lol.


Yeah me too, I think you guys may be slightly ahead of me, my playtime is really restricted lately and I still need to finish up WVR 33-50 and then apparently BSM 15-50 too..

If I want to remain in my relationship my playtime will not be increasing, it may actually be decreasing...

I'm glad you guys are able to take advantage of the information I gathered and compiled here for this at least.

Smiley: grin



Just gotta set your priorities! :P My SO gives me 3 nights a week to raid/do whatever I want but expects me to spend time with them. So I generally do and everyone usually ends up happy.

Granted, I can agree that I probably play a little more than most.

Anyways, the reason why I liked your guide so much is that it required so few level 50 crafts. Right now, I now need 50 BSM (currently 45). However, if you look at the recommended rotation in that post, he requires comfort zone too! /cry

When does this rollercoaster ever end? T_T

On a side note, I crafted another vanya hat of healing today for my SCH. However, guess what happened this time around? I was sitting at 4 points away from completion on the progress meter. :( So, I had to gamble and use rapid synth. Fortunately:

http://i.imgur.com/jnZWRau.png

Granted, it was my fault for not HQing the vanya silk. I wasn't paying attention and an excellent procced which screwed up my rotation.

Anyways, BSM at 50 should fix this no problem.

Edit: But read below for some GSM rotation problems!

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 12:55pm by HitomeOfBismarck



Wow congrats on the Vanya Hat!

She and I have a great relationship, you see she actually plays with me from time to time, she's going to be taking BRD or BLM to 50 next so she can have more fun playing... WHM is too stressful end-game for her and I to really enjoy it.

So I will keep playing just not as much as I had been... Smiley: tongue
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#86 Dec 12 2013 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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HitomeOfBismarck wrote:
Haha no you can see SHII on the bar before the synth completed. But it did have that effect, yes. :X


Ahh, I see now; you've changed your UI quite a bit. ^.^

But, even with SH2 I'd still be nervous. Grats!
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#87 Dec 12 2013 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.

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#88 Dec 12 2013 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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This thread has me absolutely terrified of crafting. Crafting effectively seems like it's going to be harder than tanking a dungeon with a narcoleptic healer and 2 DPS that don't understand threat control. I think I'll start by levelling the gathering professions and just holding on to everything I gather. On that note, is there any extra storage space out there besides your inventory? At level 27 I've already got 2.5 bags full of random reagents/ingredients and about 9 different types of materia I've converted from gear I've upgraded out of. I'm worried I'm going to run out of space soon.

Once all of my DoL classes are capped, I think I'll go

All > 15
CLN > 37
CRP > 50

After that I'm not really sure what the best order would be.
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#89 Dec 12 2013 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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This thread has me absolutely terrified of crafting. Crafting effectively seems like it's going to be harder than tanking a dungeon with a narcoleptic healer and 2 DPS that don't understand threat control. I think I'll start by levelling the gathering professions and just holding on to everything I gather. On that note, is there any extra storage space out there besides your inventory? At level 27 I've already got 2.5 bags full of random reagents/ingredients and about 9 different types of materia I've converted from gear I've upgraded out of. I'm worried I'm going to run out of space soon.

Once all of my DoL classes are capped, I think I'll go

All > 15
CLN > 37
CRP > 50

After that I'm not really sure what the best order would be.


That is a great start for sure. Crafting can't really be 'messed up' until you're doing 2 stars, so you have LOTS of time to get it figured out. :)

As for what to do after, WVR (Careful Synthesis II), ALC (Comfort Zone), BSM (Ingenuity II), and GSM (Innovation) are great additions. WVR and ALC in that order imho. After that it doesn't really matter.
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#90 Dec 12 2013 at 12:32 PM Rating: Good
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This thread has me absolutely terrified of crafting.

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Don't be scared. It sounds much more intimidating than it actually is. Once you get some levels under your belt, it'll seem much more clear.

Besides, if you ***** up, you won't be hurting anyone other than yourself (not that there is much to ***** up). :D
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#91 Dec 12 2013 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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On that note, is there any extra storage space out there besides your inventory? At level 27 I've already got 2.5 bags full of random reagents/ingredients and about 9 different types of materia I've converted from gear I've upgraded out of. I'm worried I'm going to run out of space soon.


Keep going through the story and you'll have the ability to have 2 retainers which gives you some extra storage.

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On that note, is there any extra storage space out there besides your inventory? At level 27 I've already got 2.5 bags full of random reagents/ingredients and about 9 different types of materia I've converted from gear I've upgraded out of. I'm worried I'm going to run out of space soon.


Keep going through the story and you'll have the ability to have 2 retainers which gives you some extra storage.

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 1:37pm by Shiener


I have unlocked the ability to hire retainers, I just haven't done so yet because I didn't know what the benefits of retainers was.
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#93 Dec 12 2013 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Sorry I didn't really know how best to answer you. If you want a blunt answer, no pieces should be Vanya.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmrFgm4knln6dGVwVG82Q1dDLVEtbFlJYmptWm1lcWc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=9

But you'll probably want melded accessories with VIT at some point. I shouldn't have even made Vanya for my SCH since the allagan circlet of healing is better. But, wearing Strategos again doesn't really sit well with me.
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Sorry I didn't really know how best to answer you. If you want a blunt answer, no pieces should be Vanya.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmrFgm4knln6dGVwVG82Q1dDLVEtbFlJYmptWm1lcWc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=9

But you'll probably want melded accessories with VIT at some point. I shouldn't have even made Vanya for my SCH since the allagan circlet of healing is better. But, wearing Strategos again doesn't really sit well with me.

Because the mages darklight is a cowl A lot of people I know end up going from darklight to some Vanya pieces depending on what they end up upgrading with ToM and Coil drops. Like HitomeOfBismarck I didn't like the idea of going back to Strategos.
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Yelta wrote:
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Sorry I didn't really know how best to answer you. If you want a blunt answer, no pieces should be Vanya.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmrFgm4knln6dGVwVG82Q1dDLVEtbFlJYmptWm1lcWc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=9

But you'll probably want melded accessories with VIT at some point. I shouldn't have even made Vanya for my SCH since the allagan circlet of healing is better. But, wearing Strategos again doesn't really sit well with me.

Because the mages darklight is a cowl A lot of people I know end up going from darklight to some Vanya pieces depending on what they end up upgrading with ToM and Coil drops. Like HitomeOfBismarck I didn't like the idea of going back to Strategos.


Oh ok... So that way you have 2 pieces instead of one. I think I'm going to do the hat and robe at least. It just seems like such a waste to have all that potential and then not use it lol.
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It does, doesn't it? :P You don't know when you'll see your BiS item if it's a drop so you might as well. What I have a problem with is losing my money on melds. For instance, my earring used to have a bunch of ACC materia in it (took around 400k to meld it about 2 months ago) and my BLM replaced it the next week. Now, I'm using it on SCH but I had to get rid of the ACC materia this morning which meant getting rid of all the materia. ; ;

I'm not sure how your servers are, but potash just crashed to 10k last night. You should be able to make the hat dirt cheap. Wait till the patch comes before you make the body.

Really, the big expense is on materia.

I think the WHM BiS body is actually a drop from turn 4. AF2 isn't bad I guess? You'd have to ask our resident WHMs. I know for SCH, AF2 body is BiS and the healer circlet is BiS for both healers IIRC.
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It does, doesn't it? :P You don't know when you'll see your BiS item if it's a drop so you might as well. What I have a problem with is losing my money on melds. For instance, my earring used to have a bunch of ACC materia in it (took around 400k to meld it about 2 months ago) and my BLM replaced it the next week. Now, I'm using it on SCH but I had to get rid of the ACC materia this morning which meant getting rid of all the materia. ; ;

I'm not sure how your servers are, but potash just crashed to 10k last night. You should be able to make the hat dirt cheap. Wait till the patch comes before you make the body.

Really, the big expense is on materia.

I think the WHM BiS body is actually a drop from turn 4. AF2 isn't bad I guess? You'd have to ask our resident WHMs. I know for SCH, AF2 body is BiS and the healer circlet is BiS for both healers IIRC.


Well if I'm going to be wearing them until I'm in turn 4 I guess I don't feel so bad about making them. I don't even know when I'll be in BC lol.

Why do you suggest waiting on the body though?

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Never mind! Looks like I read the recipe wrong. I thought the body required 18 potash. May actually be better to make it before the patch since some recipes are getting their requirements reduced which may improve the market for phil. items.
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Cool :)

Thanks for the tip!
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LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.
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LebargeX wrote:
I don't mean to be a jerky jerk but I'm re-posting my questions. I think it got passed up because I posted between some other replies so:



For WHM, which pieces should be Vanya? I've seen a lot of the head and body. What about the rest?

Also, what earrings are you wearing? They don't look like red coral.



Vanya should be transitional pieces. They are used to bridge the gap between darklight and AF2 / Allagan armors. When penta melded, they offer more stats than darklight, and make great transitional pieces because due to different materia and dye combinations they are customizable. Plus you can convert them for a guaranteed IV materia once you get the AF2 / Allagan BiS piece.



The go-to Scholar in our Free Company has Rose Gold earrings with VIT IV and Piety IV Materia melds, he swears by the VIT meld as it pushes his HP above 4k for Coil runs.

Edited, Dec 13th 2013 10:11am by SolomonGrundy
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