Hello.
So i got my curtana atma yesterday and was able to get my first book right away after saving up enough myths. I started doincg my book and got it about half complete after a few hours. Then i thought to myself "ok, let me check what exactly im grinding for". So i go and check libra eorzea and i notice that the highest upgrade for the relics is the animus which you get after completing all 9 books.
The thing that threw me off is that the animis is only ilvl 100. I'm grindng days worth of atma, then grinding days worth of myth, then grinding days worth of books...to get the same weapon i could get much more easily using soldiery? And the soldiery weapon is upgradable to ilvl 110. Not only that, you can get a wave weapon and upgrade that to a tidal weapon even more easily (yes i know you need the mirror, but statics help here).
So, i ask is it really worth trying to upgrade your relics? Its 13,500 myth to fully upgrade a relic to animus, plus all the work involved, where as a soldiery is 3 weeks worth of soldiery (about 1350 i think). I'm going to say with 100% certainty that this isnt worth it at all right now. Im not saying that i dont like the grind, but for the work involved i was expecting them to go to ilvl 110. What are your guys thoughts?
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Is it worth upgrading your atma?Follow
This is only the first (two) steps for the relics. There's going to be more (they have already said as such), and they just haven't rolled it out yet because they assume that 12 rare drops and 13500 myths will keep people occupied for long enough. My guess is that they are going to go up to i110 at least before they release any content/weaponry that's past i115.
I think the relic is also a great path for people who don't want to get too heavy into endgame grinding.
Like, I'm more interested in having a cool weapon but not having to beat extreme primals 20 billion times. The EX primal weapons from leviathan are more powerful than the Zodiak stuff, but it's a more hardcore grind to get them. The Zodiak stuff is also grindy to get, but much more accessible for those who don't run with endgame statics... and they're powerful enough to excel at any content.
Like, I'm more interested in having a cool weapon but not having to beat extreme primals 20 billion times. The EX primal weapons from leviathan are more powerful than the Zodiak stuff, but it's a more hardcore grind to get them. The Zodiak stuff is also grindy to get, but much more accessible for those who don't run with endgame statics... and they're powerful enough to excel at any content.
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Thayos wrote:
I think the relic is also a great path for people who don't want to get too heavy into endgame grinding.
Like, I'm more interested in having a cool weapon but not having to beat extreme primals 20 billion times. The EX primal weapons from leviathan are more powerful than the Zodiak stuff, but it's a more hardcore grind to get them. The Zodiak stuff is also grindy to get, but much more accessible for those who don't run with endgame statics... and they're powerful enough to excel at any content.
Like, I'm more interested in having a cool weapon but not having to beat extreme primals 20 billion times. The EX primal weapons from leviathan are more powerful than the Zodiak stuff, but it's a more hardcore grind to get them. The Zodiak stuff is also grindy to get, but much more accessible for those who don't run with endgame statics... and they're powerful enough to excel at any content.
Although i agree with you, the time investment doesnt seem justified here. I know they will release future upgrades, but if this is supposed to allow casual players to advance...this is going to take an extremly long period of time. Not only that, but there basically going to be locked in to a job now. If they want to use another job, they have a significant amount of work to do just to use another job. Im mot complainong for myself, im hardcore and will probably have multiple animus weapons. But for casuals, they now have a big decision to make unless they do want to start grinding hardcore content.
I only plan on doing the relic quest with one job, and as future patches come out, I'll be able to farm mobs easier to keep my other classes at the baseline of being current.
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For me, this is exactly the sort of content (albeit without FATEs) I was hoping would be introduced at some point. Content I can solo at my own pace, that will eventually allow me to be at least competitive gear wise. I'm not into the end game scene so much. In this, like in XI, I'm tending to be one patch cycle behind in content, meaning T9/Levi Ex weapons aren't an option for me. My first T4 win was about a week before 2.2, to put it in perspective. Yes it is grindy, but if I log in for 2 hrs in an evening, an hour of that can be grinding FATEs. I've put in a fraction of the time others have, but have 4 atmas, which I'm happy with.
Plus, coming from XI, this feels like a holiday camp in comparison. I soloed a lvl 85 Masamune, so if you think grinding FATE's for 20hrs to receive one of the more powerful weapons is bad, try farming Carabosse, Cirein-Croin and all their associated Key Item NMs solo without any triggers to proc with. This is childsplay compared to those 3 months of 5 hrs a day grinding.
Plus, coming from XI, this feels like a holiday camp in comparison. I soloed a lvl 85 Masamune, so if you think grinding FATE's for 20hrs to receive one of the more powerful weapons is bad, try farming Carabosse, Cirein-Croin and all their associated Key Item NMs solo without any triggers to proc with. This is childsplay compared to those 3 months of 5 hrs a day grinding.
I was going to make a separate post on this, but decided against it.
I got my Atma bow, and now I decided not to do the trials.
This has everything to do with the main scenario plotline and their overt teases of a future job or three coming soon.
Basically, Thief and Ninja. Thancred is clearly a thief class, and the new character introduced is a Ninja. They even take you to the future home of the thieves guild and talk about teaching you her "far east" ways, so I wouldn't doubt samurai is coming.
So basically, the Relic path is one that you shouldn't take if you don't absolutely love the job you are and are looking forward to other jobs they may add.
I got my Atma bow, and now I decided not to do the trials.
This has everything to do with the main scenario plotline and their overt teases of a future job or three coming soon.
Basically, Thief and Ninja. Thancred is clearly a thief class, and the new character introduced is a Ninja. They even take you to the future home of the thieves guild and talk about teaching you her "far east" ways, so I wouldn't doubt samurai is coming.
So basically, the Relic path is one that you shouldn't take if you don't absolutely love the job you are and are looking forward to other jobs they may add.
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I want both >.>
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I tend to like to collect spears.
I a only imagine how horrible getting atma is for more than one job but im sure as time goes on theyll make it easier, also... you mention 13500 myth to upgrade but i thought only 3-4 of the 9 books are even available now? which means you cant even USE all 13500 myth now even if you had them? so Im under the impression that as of now the future updates will only include unlocking more books" which will give you better stats but still not increase your il.
Keysofgaruda wrote:
...to get the same weapon i could get much more easily using soldiery? And the soldiery weapon is upgradable to ilvl 110. Not only that, you can get a wave weapon and upgrade that to a tidal weapon even more easily (yes i know you need the mirror, but statics help here)
Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
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Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
This is all absolutely correct.
Also, the atma FATE grinding isn't as worthless as we once thought, given that we'll need seals to continue sending our retainers out on ventures, and we'll be doing FATEs while working on our atma weapons, too. That said, in the future I'd like to see the drop rate increased, but for now it's absolutely worth upgrading your weapon for your main job... unless you're a more hardcore player who happens to have an equally hardcore FC and static.
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Thayos wrote:
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Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
This is all absolutely correct.
Also, the atma FATE grinding isn't as worthless as we once thought, given that we'll need seals to continue sending our retainers out on ventures, and we'll be doing FATEs while working on our atma weapons, too. That said, in the future I'd like to see the drop rate increased, but for now it's absolutely worth upgrading your weapon for your main job... unless you're a more hardcore player who happens to have an equally hardcore FC and static.
You have to remember too, Atma + book grinding can probably done in the span of 2 months if you go at it daily for a few hours. Coil and Levi drops could take several months to get what you need. People seem to forget the first month or two of Coil is figuring out the damn fight and clearing it once a week. Afterwards, you have to hope the items you want actually drop. I'd say I cleared Coil consistently from November until recently, every week, while still missing drops for my mnk. Heck, we had several members there for one or two items, they never got them. The same goes for these weapons people are after, it could very well take weeks for you to get some luck with an appropriate drop.
Most groups didn't even clear T5 without the aid of the Twin app until very recently, I'd say the last 4-5 weeks. My guess is it's going to be the same for T8-9.
Also, once you get through the atma FATE grinding, doing the hunting required by the books is pretty fun. If the rest of the zodiak quests are like the books, then upgrading a relic will be a cool experience (once you get through the front gate).
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
I a only imagine how horrible getting atma is for more than one job but im sure as time goes on theyll make it easier, also... you mention 13500 myth to upgrade but i thought only 3-4 of the 9 books are even available now? which means you cant even USE all 13500 myth now even if you had them? so Im under the impression that as of now the future updates will only include unlocking more books" which will give you better stats but still not increase your il.
Incorrect.
There are 4 categories of books available, 9 total.
Basically it equates to
3 Primary Stat Books
2 Secondary Books
2 Vit Books
2 Something else Books
Each books is worth +2 of that stat.
Edited, Apr 5th 2014 5:13pm by Louiscool
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Where is the info on doing the weather weapons? I assume these are the one which use the soldiery tomes?
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
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Loris wrote:
Keysofgaruda wrote:
...to get the same weapon i could get much more easily using soldiery? And the soldiery weapon is upgradable to ilvl 110. Not only that, you can get a wave weapon and upgrade that to a tidal weapon even more easily (yes i know you need the mirror, but statics help here)
Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
Nashred wrote:
Where is the info on doing the weather weapons? I assume these are the one which use the soldiery tomes?
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
Normal Path: Beat coil turn 6 and turn 7 and get the unidentified allagan tomestone drop, then spend three weeks of myth to get the weathered version.
Valk's Path: Wait for my lvl 18 retainer to bering me the unidentified allagan tomestone, then spend three weeks of myth to get the weathered weapon.
Hey, they already brought me furniture that requires coil drops, so I figure they know something I don't or they are rocking a future thief class in ninja mode.
Valkayree wrote:
Loris wrote:
Keysofgaruda wrote:
...to get the same weapon i could get much more easily using soldiery? And the soldiery weapon is upgradable to ilvl 110. Not only that, you can get a wave weapon and upgrade that to a tidal weapon even more easily (yes i know you need the mirror, but statics help here)
Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
Nashred wrote:
Where is the info on doing the weather weapons? I assume these are the one which use the soldiery tomes?
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
I am just looking for info on the path to do these.
Normal Path: Beat coil turn 6 and turn 7 and get the unidentified allagan tomestone drop, then spend three weeks of myth to get the weathered version.
Valk's Path: Wait for my lvl 18 retainer to bering me the unidentified allagan tomestone, then spend three weeks of myth to get the weathered weapon.
Hey, they already brought me furniture that requires coil drops, so I figure they know something I don't or they are rocking a future thief class in ninja mode.
I think they're going to or maybe already patched out the whole retainers bringing you coil drops thing....
My plan: Use atma and soldiery to power up WHM weapon, use primals and myth to power up MNK.
I got a Majestic Mogtome from my retainer last night, so I don't think they've blocked all the high level items.
Loris wrote:
Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
You only have it partially correct.
No: the weathered soldiery weapons (that are upgraded to i110 via a drop from T8) are not feasible for a majority of the playerbase. It requires you to down turn 7 which, quite frankly, only around 5-10% of the population will complete, to even purchase the weapon. It requires a huge soldiery investment and it requires a drop from T8 to get it to i110.
However, Leviathan Ex is MUCH easier than people think. I have been apart of many successful PF Levi Ex runs this week and last week. I can tell you this would never be the case with Titan Ex. The difference is that in Levi, you KNOW it is your fault. You are to blame for your mistakes. No lag can compensate. It is purely a reactive fight with mechanics that punish you for not being aware. Titan is not this type of fight. Titan Ex is actually like T7: one mistake and you're all done.
I think many of the Levi Ex weapons are within reach for the 'normal playerbase' and the casual players are better off seeking their atma weapons. The reason being: Levi weapons can be upgraded to i100 and, in most cases, are far superior (stat-wise) to the atma versions plus you get added base damage.
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Loris wrote:
Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. You're missing some things. What you're describing is several tiers of content above simply grinding out tomes and fates for atma/animus. Thats the casual path, and well worth it for 95% of the playerbase who simply won't have access to the other weapons. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiery weapons and tidal weapons require FAR more completion (hardcore endgamers will already be there, so yea its "easy" for them because they just have to spam things a few times with their static and viola - weapon done).
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
For soldiery i100 weapons, you have to have a drop from turn 7 and weeks worth of soldiery tomes, and for i110 version, you need a drop from turn 8. There will be a few hundred people game-wide capable of that. Without a static capable of turn 5, already geared in i90-100 and allagan weapons, it ain't happening. Wave weapons are easier, but again, you will already have to have cleared the other EX primals and the tidal weapon needs a super rare drop. Without a static, ain't happening.
So is atma worth it? Absolutely.
You only have it partially correct.
No: the weathered soldiery weapons (that are upgraded to i110 via a drop from T8) are not feasible for a majority of the playerbase. It requires you to down turn 7 which, quite frankly, only around 5-10% of the population will complete, to even purchase the weapon. It requires a huge soldiery investment and it requires a drop from T8 to get it to i110.
However, Leviathan Ex is MUCH easier than people think. I have been apart of many successful PF Levi Ex runs this week and last week. I can tell you this would never be the case with Titan Ex. The difference is that in Levi, you KNOW it is your fault. You are to blame for your mistakes. No lag can compensate. It is purely a reactive fight with mechanics that punish you for not being aware. Titan is not this type of fight. Titan Ex is actually like T7: one mistake and you're all done.
I think many of the Levi Ex weapons are within reach for the 'normal playerbase' and the casual players are better off seeking their atma weapons. The reason being: Levi weapons can be upgraded to i100 and, in most cases, are far superior (stat-wise) to the atma versions plus you get added base damage.
I tried Levi EX just once. On Lamia there are probably 2 parties per day that hit the party finder. Battle did not go well. Not enough DPS on the briny bubbles. I hear that summoners are essential here because they can move DOTs to the tail and do damage while dodging. But I havent beat it, likely won't any time soon. But I broke Titan Ex in half for my third victory this weekend.
Edited, Apr 8th 2014 3:55pm by Valkayree
SMNs are not essential at all. I out DPS most on my BLM because many BLMs do not realize what aetherial manipulation can do, especially on Leviathan. If you were to say AoE LB is essential, I would maybe agree if it was a PF group. Most PF groups have a mage, though.
You won't win Leviathan on the first attempt or until you learn how to listen for his position/understand his spinning dive and slam patterns. Even if a DPS is hit by a spinning bubble + one dive, a SCH should easily be able to save them with a lustrate. Doing this on both WHM and SCH this weekend, it really is only stressful for the WHM healing-wise so aetherflow stacks should be up for clutch lustrates.
Having sound up and being able to pan/pick up on patterns will make Levi a breeze.
You won't win Leviathan on the first attempt or until you learn how to listen for his position/understand his spinning dive and slam patterns. Even if a DPS is hit by a spinning bubble + one dive, a SCH should easily be able to save them with a lustrate. Doing this on both WHM and SCH this weekend, it really is only stressful for the WHM healing-wise so aetherflow stacks should be up for clutch lustrates.
Having sound up and being able to pan/pick up on patterns will make Levi a breeze.
I've only run Titan EX in DF and it's only been a handful of times... haven't even made it to the heart yet lol.
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Posted: Apr 12 2014 at 2:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) As of right now? Not even a little bit. Farm Levi weapons and skip relic or wait until they make the quest easier next patch for people who had excuses for not putting the time in.
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Edited, Apr 12th 2014 2:53pm by LebargeX
Edited, Apr 12th 2014 2:53pm by LebargeX
I like the Animus route. I got my Animus last Monday, and I have a friend who's been fighting Leviathan ex like 30 times before he got his weapon to drop, and even more times looking for a mirror. So like, 50 times downed, and he's only seen 1 mirror. People are saying that the mirror has a less drop rate than the atma did. LOL
As for the Soldier weathered weapons. I think you need so many Soldiery's to complete the weapon, not to mention the new coil drops. That with only getting 450 sol's per week, it will take you like 4 weeks just to be able to save up that many Soldiery's. That being said, you would have been better off almost fully upgrading all your gear to soldiery in the amount you are gonna spend on one weapon.
The Animus Weapon allows you to increase your damage, or heals, substantially while allowing you to have a weapon and some good gear to go along with it. As of now I have a i100 weapon with 72 dmg and 37 INT on it, along with i100 head, body, and belt... Not to mention next patch I will be able to upgrade that said weapon even further, as for the primal Leviathan, you can fight him over and over again to upgrade your tidal wave weapon to i100 also, but you just spent a lot of time to get that, and its done... No more upgrades for that, so come next patch either you will have to jump on the Relic bandwagon, or fight the new primal for his new weapon, or like someone said have a good static to begin the soldiery grind for the weathered weapon.
If i'm gonna spend a lot of time on something. I'll choose the one that can be upgraded. Now that I have an Animus, I will be able to contribute higher dps numbers against things like coil, and Leviathan and such, and will be able to meat requirements once people start saying i100 weapon onry please!! Plus while I'm fighting Leviathan helping people out, I may just get my Leviathan weapon also without looking for it, and will continue to work toward my coil drops, while being a bit stronger while doing so.
Edited, Apr 18th 2014 10:01pm by SirLuciousLeftfoot
As for the Soldier weathered weapons. I think you need so many Soldiery's to complete the weapon, not to mention the new coil drops. That with only getting 450 sol's per week, it will take you like 4 weeks just to be able to save up that many Soldiery's. That being said, you would have been better off almost fully upgrading all your gear to soldiery in the amount you are gonna spend on one weapon.
The Animus Weapon allows you to increase your damage, or heals, substantially while allowing you to have a weapon and some good gear to go along with it. As of now I have a i100 weapon with 72 dmg and 37 INT on it, along with i100 head, body, and belt... Not to mention next patch I will be able to upgrade that said weapon even further, as for the primal Leviathan, you can fight him over and over again to upgrade your tidal wave weapon to i100 also, but you just spent a lot of time to get that, and its done... No more upgrades for that, so come next patch either you will have to jump on the Relic bandwagon, or fight the new primal for his new weapon, or like someone said have a good static to begin the soldiery grind for the weathered weapon.
If i'm gonna spend a lot of time on something. I'll choose the one that can be upgraded. Now that I have an Animus, I will be able to contribute higher dps numbers against things like coil, and Leviathan and such, and will be able to meat requirements once people start saying i100 weapon onry please!! Plus while I'm fighting Leviathan helping people out, I may just get my Leviathan weapon also without looking for it, and will continue to work toward my coil drops, while being a bit stronger while doing so.
Edited, Apr 18th 2014 10:01pm by SirLuciousLeftfoot
The mirror is pretty damn rare. My FC has been very fortunate and we've seen 4 of them but that is 4 mirrors in 70+ runs. How's that for a drop rate for those of you complaining about atma drop rates?
The soldiery weapon is by far superior in almost every way, though. It requires 1300 soldiery which is simply 3 weeks of saving. After that, you may upgrade it with a sand drop from T8 to increase it to i110. This will be your best weapon until you down T9 and get a high allagan weapon. I don't know if you've looked at the fights for T8 or T9, but they're not easy.
Many of the relic weapon's stats are not very favorable outside of other jobs. For instance on BLM when ACC isn't an issue, Tidal Wave Staff is superior. When ACC is an issue, Laevateinn is superior. There is also the problem of ACC with BLM in coil that only really good luck on drops will solve or obtaining a Laevateinn. To cap ACC on T6/7 with animus (450 ACC), you need to use suboptimal setups for gear from 2.0/2.1 to offset the ACC loss. It is currently not possible to cap ACC on T8 (470 ACC) with animus and standard gear from 2.0/2.1 unless you acquire gear from 2.2. Stardust Rod Animus is a nice middleground between the two, though.
And like mentioned, Leviathan weapons will not last forever. Your relic weapon will. It will be upgraded most likely to i110 next patch and only continue to get better from there.
But keep in mind: animus weapons are not required to clear any of the current content. Will they improve you? Of course. Are they necessary? Nah. But they look cool, are something you can do at your own pace, and are a long term investment where so many of this game's elements are simply short term.
Heck, I play this game a lot more than most of you but haven't even started my first book. I've been taking my time with this and it has been extremely enjoyable. Grinding for 10 hours one night in Outer La Noscea drove me mad but when I logged in the next morning and saw my atma within 2 FATEs, I was so happy. I don't remember the last time I was ever that ecstatic over a piece of loot dropping. lol
Either way, take your time or rush through it. You bring on the misery (or the joy) yourself and are not forced to do it.
Edited, Apr 20th 2014 12:00pm by HitomeOfBismarck
The soldiery weapon is by far superior in almost every way, though. It requires 1300 soldiery which is simply 3 weeks of saving. After that, you may upgrade it with a sand drop from T8 to increase it to i110. This will be your best weapon until you down T9 and get a high allagan weapon. I don't know if you've looked at the fights for T8 or T9, but they're not easy.
Many of the relic weapon's stats are not very favorable outside of other jobs. For instance on BLM when ACC isn't an issue, Tidal Wave Staff is superior. When ACC is an issue, Laevateinn is superior. There is also the problem of ACC with BLM in coil that only really good luck on drops will solve or obtaining a Laevateinn. To cap ACC on T6/7 with animus (450 ACC), you need to use suboptimal setups for gear from 2.0/2.1 to offset the ACC loss. It is currently not possible to cap ACC on T8 (470 ACC) with animus and standard gear from 2.0/2.1 unless you acquire gear from 2.2. Stardust Rod Animus is a nice middleground between the two, though.
And like mentioned, Leviathan weapons will not last forever. Your relic weapon will. It will be upgraded most likely to i110 next patch and only continue to get better from there.
But keep in mind: animus weapons are not required to clear any of the current content. Will they improve you? Of course. Are they necessary? Nah. But they look cool, are something you can do at your own pace, and are a long term investment where so many of this game's elements are simply short term.
Heck, I play this game a lot more than most of you but haven't even started my first book. I've been taking my time with this and it has been extremely enjoyable. Grinding for 10 hours one night in Outer La Noscea drove me mad but when I logged in the next morning and saw my atma within 2 FATEs, I was so happy. I don't remember the last time I was ever that ecstatic over a piece of loot dropping. lol
Either way, take your time or rush through it. You bring on the misery (or the joy) yourself and are not forced to do it.
Edited, Apr 20th 2014 12:00pm by HitomeOfBismarck
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