so is what I heard true?Follow

I heard that in patch 2.3 even if a preset party if you and on a dungeon you still get the 10 min lockout before you can reenter.. anyone got a link that confirms that?

ok Ill use an example.. me and 3 other ppl make a party in mordhona... then we enter brayflox hard... kill the 2nd boss then all abandon.... will we still be able to reeneter immediately afterwards or will that have a stop put to it at 2.3 like i heard?

What's changing is when a full premade party (which normally does not ever receive a penalty, regardless of the circumstances) will get penalized if they leave a Duty Roulette. This is so a full group can't just repeatedly leave to avoid doing a dungeon they don't want to do.

You can still have your Mythflox if you queue for it directly. However, considering that they're changing the tome distribution, don't be shocked if the majority of the myth rewarded now comes from the last boss.

Well, if it's not duty roulette then that's not the case, it doesn't have to be 10min.

Looks like they are trying to push out dungeon spamming and put more emphasis on duty roulette.


Edited, Jul 7th 2014 10:23pm by Stilivan

Again, it applies only to Duty Roulette. This is solely so that premade groups cannot just abandon a roulette dungeon they don't want to do (since premades don't get penalities)

Most of the time that in progress run has a player that dropped for a reason. So if someone has to wait a minute between looking for an in progress fail run I'm fine with that, but I'm not happy with sitting in duty finder for 15 minutes and ending up with another 10 minutes of:

click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll
click OK
nvm, tank troll

This shouldn't stop 2 boss speed runs in Brayflox. You should still be able to use Vote Abandon and have no one penalized. Otherwise, this patch basically nullifies the use that Vote Abandon was intended to provide.

I see this change more as a way to reprimand people who join a tough fight under PF and then bail after 1 wipe. Now, they'll have some incentive to suffer through 2 to 3 wipes, which may provide enough time for the party to show improvement. But then, I suppose those same people can just AFK after the wipe until the 10 minutes is up and hope they simply get kicked before that time.

Edit: nvm, missed the part about this only applying to Duty Roulette when I read the patch notes before. I wonder if this penalty will hit even if you use Vote Abandon in this case, or if they are only worried about cases where you enter with partial parties (2 or 3 for a 4 man dungeon, for example) and just leave the other random members hanging when you leave.

Edited, Jul 8th 2014 12:48pm by svlyons

Im 100% well aware of that fact. Ive said it myself MULTIPLE times and people act like thats not the case at all. Point being, now if everyone else would just admit that 99% of the time my toppics get subbed because its ME posting them/and Im not well like around here/not part of the "cool kids clique" and not because my topics are usually "trollish" or are "loaded questions that are trying to pass off as legit but are actually inviting trolling/trollish replies or bashing" Like everyone would liek to try to make me believe. Then we can stop having these discussions everytime I think one of my posts is unjustly subbed.

tl;dr everyone just admit that its the POSTER whos POSTING thats the problem and not the POSTS that he POSTS.

But of course no one will do that because theyre worried about tarnishing their internet rep (of all things lol), theres a different between looking like an ***hole and admitting to being one (as that quote goes "It is better to be thought of a fool, than to open one's mouth and prove it."). Me on the other hand has no problem with neither look like an ***hole AND admitting to being one. I get complaints from my manager at work weekly about the other employees there who dont like me because of things I say and do.. and guess what? I dont ever deny ANY of their accusations, cause theyre all true. I may be an ***hole but at least Im not fake. Im not the type of person wholl smile in your face then stab you in the back/talk about you behind your back. Im 100% ok with attack you from the front, and anything I have to say to or about you gets said to you by ME FIRST before I go saying it to anyone else, so youre well aware first what I think about you and the crap I talk about you to other people before those other people are being told it. Cause that the kinda guy I am.

tl:dr If I dont care what ppl in real life that I have to see everyday, 40 hours a week think about me I sure as hell dont care what anonymous ppl on the internet who ill more than likely never see irl think, so why be fake, and hide behind the anonymity of clicking a red arrow instead of doing that then having the guts to say "I rated you down and this is why"? I mean its a guy on the internet whos probably over 1000 miles away.... whats he gonna do to you once he finds out you rated him down? inflict bodily harm on you? Highly unlikely, so why be scared?

Don't let the internet get to you.

Easy to say, hard to live up to.

Also, your TLDR was too long, I didn't read it. *shrug*

When I rate you down, it's the posts. When I rate you up, that's the posts too.

You might also find that people are influenced by proper composition and literacy. I just rated up your post here because you broke character and exhibited those qualities (even though it kind of slipped towards the end). Wall-of-Textspeak in a non-character limited forum is just not worth the effort to translate -- the forum equivalent of showing up under-geared to Coil. Even smartphones have easy capitalization, line breaks, and punctuation these days; use them.

One of the truisms of forums, dating back decades to the heyday of Usenet, is that people who say "You aren't listening to me!" really mean "You aren't agreeing with me!". Those people are usually posting garbage, which is why they aren't agreed with. On ZAM, the equivalent is, "You're rating me down when I made a good post!". Post good, well considered and constructed posts and you'll be rated up by those of us who rate on content alone.

There is a easier fix for duty roulette dopers.. You loose the reward for duty roulette period if you drop out of a dungeon.. No re-ques...
You only get to que once for a duty roulette period... Once in a dungeon you only get the reward once finished the dungeon.. It is that easy, why cant SE think of stuff like this.. This would stop it 100 percent.

Another thing you dont want people only running 1/2 a dungeon, only put the rewards at the end...






Edited, Jul 8th 2014 3:20pm by Nashred