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There is still plenty of under cutting done by players, like any other game.

Edited, Jul 14th 2014 11:17am by FedeMax

so not much has changed? thats disapointing :( I had most crafts to max spent alot of time on it and just seemed like a waste.

If you're really into crafts, getting the melded gear and accessibility to doing the Masterlist, or 3 Star crafts. These take a major time investment and anything that sells under these on the Auction sells at a premium.

Thanks to augmented Primal Weapons, Crafters, who also desynthsize, also have access to crafting ilvl95 weapons, which, for someone looking to evade the relic path, may become quite popular. Though the prices, in my opinion, are too high for newer players to purchase. Though they may also become desirable for the Glamours.

Then there is housing crafts. With Free Company Private Rooms the demand for housing materials has spiked, and thus so have the prices.

So yeah, while you'll still be undercut, there are plenty of lucrative markets out for a dedicated crafter to make gil off of - not that there wasn't before, it was one of our FC crafters that made the biggest portion of our housing fund.

I never experienced too much of an issue with undercutting because I always, always aimed to craft items that didn't have a lot listed on the board to begin with. Anything that is a quest reward is going to have 20-30 NQ crap pieces listed for 100 gil. Anything that isn't a quest reward, however, and which is highly desired, can sell for quite a bit. Even baby low level HQ gear sells for a couple thousand gil apiece.

I usually craft jewelry. I can mine all the materials (including the crystals if I'm feeling ambitious) but even when I'm lazy and buy it off the MB, I easily make ten times as much as I invested because I craft wisely.

I've made about eight million gil crafting. I think my new goal is to have 10 million gil total in time for the 1 year anniversary of the game.

There's tons of opportunities to play the market if that is your thing. Many of the items selling for high prices are not gained from DoL/DoH. People who know the right tings the craft or even harvest or making great amounts of money quickly. If the markets are your main reason for not playing, I would say there is fun to be had there as of late.

Content-wise there are a ton of things to do now. Most of these things are good fun. Still no fixes to the worst offenders, Titan or T5, as far as 1-hit wipe mechanics, however, the Echo (20-25% hp and damage buff) does make practicing the events surrounding Landslides, Divebombs, Twisters much easier. While these fights remain not-at-all-casual friendly, they are indeed beatable. I lost a good number of real-life friends to frustration with these fights.

The current daily/weekly agenda of things to do is extensive and diverse enough to keep anyone busy with things they actually find fun.

Lastly, they have made participating in level-synched fates (1000's of them) a prerequisite for upgrading your Relic. If staying current on your main job is a priority, you have to suffer through this mindless content for a RNG decided amount of time. Somewhere in the 15 to 100+ hour range of searching for 12 Atmas dropped from mostly low-level Fates, while you are on a level 50 with Relic equipped. This was the final nail in the coffin for my RL friends who managed to limp through the demands of T5 an Titan. Atma farming can in no way be considered fun, and the possibility that you will be one of the players screwed by the RNG has the less invested players running for the hills.

I could honestly give a better recommendation for this game as a whole if I wasn't well aware that they have taken a niche-market casual MMO and added just a few bits that only hardcore players will overcome. If you are already on the fence, coming face-to-face with these bits of poorly designed nonsense will likely have you looking for something that is genuinely fun to do instead.

If, as a MMO veteran, a few poorly designed grinds will not prevent you from enjoying the wealth of new thoughtfully constructed content, then I think you you find a great deal of fun things to do as well as many welcome, if belated, quality of life improvements. Once again, if playing the markets is your thing, I consistently see people having a great time and much success in their money-making adventures.

Two to three hours per day for three days per week is more than just "barely playing." Have no clue how old this guy is, but nine hours per week in a virtual world is a big commitment if you have a career, a family or other real-world commitments.

Edited, Jul 14th 2014 2:10pm by Thayos

Insulting other posters because they choose to play the game differently than you is pretty low.

Nine hours a week is only twenty minutes a day? Who the hell taught you math?

He said 2-3 hours per day, dude.

I personally think it's reasonable to make the very light fluffy casual content fun and make the hardcore content as grindy as possible.

They've tipped the scales too far with the ridiculously low Atma drops (I'd much rather have it be do 500 FATES straight up and have a counter going that I can measure) but the myth requirements for the books and now the alexandrites are pretty much on par with the kind of grindy content that satisfied the itch for something that takes a long slog and has a nice present at the end for your work.

The reality is of course that most of us fall in between the two extremes. I do more than "20 minutes a day" - more like 3-4 hours, 3-4 times a week here. I consider myself a casual. Then there are the "weekend warriors" that clock in an hour max during the week and then do 12 hour marathons on Saturday and Sunday.

I'm sorry but this post just made me laugh.

so the way to enjoy the forum is to barely read. thanks for your wisdom

Edited, Jul 14th 2014 7:36pm by Stilivan

Alright, I see what the guy was saying now.

I think I just assumed that he said "2-3 hours per week" because he said he has so much to do/doesn't know which content to tackle/etc.

I'm not sure how he would still be at that point on ARR if he's playing at 9 hours a week.