The "I wish I were recording" MomentFollow

So, I Q'd up on my new CNJ for Duty Roulette. My CNJ is only 21 on this character (well now almost 23 lol).

I got Tam-Tara, with a new GLA (but seemed to be a veteran, he knew how to mark), a DRG and a Pugilist, both were Level Sync'd.

About halfway into the Dungeon (just after the 2nd Orb), the Tank gets annoyed at the Pugilist for not obeying the Marks, saying things like "he can't read". I tell the Tank "It's fine, I'm having fun!" (because healing is so BORING in those earlier levels).

Well, suddenly, the tank just starts standing there doing nothing when the pugilist runs on ahead and pulls for him.

We continue through, me throwing out heals like crazy; the tanking is done by a combination of me and the pugilist, with the DRG occasionally pulling hate. We go clear up to the last boss, no deaths, and I'm thinking "We surely aren't going to do this with no tank, are we?"

Sure enough, the tank just stands off to the side doing nothing and the Pugilist pulls. It was crazy when the adds popped, I got interrupted a couple times, but we actually did kill the boss and nobody died at all! The Tank even blew the Limit Break in some low-damage situation to make sure we couldn't use the Limit to help the fight go faster, and we still succeeded.

In the end, the tank left without saying a word to anybody, and I made sure to thank the Pugilist for such a crazy fun run. The tank was probably thinking "I'll show them, I'll let them die." .... joke's on him, we didn't even need him. We had several close calls, but it taught me a lot about how to heal better, and now I'm more comfortable with healing in XIV, as low-level dungeons just aren't all that hard when the tank does his job properly.

I wish I had recording software running or something, lol. That'd make for some good Youtube to show my friends... but sadly I wasn't recording; I don't have the equipment for it.

Those low-level dungeons don't really need a tank. Once people realize you don't really need a tank, a lot of people just do their own thing. That said, people really shouldn't disrespect the tank like that. They need the practice as much as anyone and they'll be expected to take charge someday. As a healer, you still have some pull, I'm not sure you could win without a healer, so you could insist that the tank leads.

Something that amazed me the other day was running through AK without a healer because ours disconnected right from the start. Everything died well before the tank would have without any healing, even the bosses. That certainly wasn't possible a year ago.

Well I dunno if I'd call myself a "good" healer (I'm somewhat inexperienced, my other character's CNJ is only like 25-28 or something like that, and this one is 23). I was surprised I managed to keep everybody up and not end up getting killed lol. It was a good test and learning experience, though. A bit hectic, but I'm just glad I managed to do it, because I bet if someone were to have died or we wiped or something, the tank woulda been "haha told you so" or some-crap.

As far as kicking the princess tank, the only problem with that, is if we had done that then we wouldn't have been able to show him that we didn't need him afterall, lol. He woulda assumed we got a new tank to fill the role or that we died on the last boss or something.

Edited, Aug 13th 2014 4:06pm by Lyrailis

Nothing exciting yet from ARR, but from 1.x I wish I was recording the Moogle run where we all wiped except for me (on DRG) and a BRD and we started kiting all of the moogles while tossing out raise potions and the whms recovering the rest of the party while we continued to kite and finish off the fight.

In ARR though, I always wish I record when I end up in a primal ex party with nothing but DRGs..:3

Just for future reference - That is considered a grief tactic by SE and that tank can potentially get hit with a banhammer if he was reported, as it's against the ToS.

But good job! Those low level dungeons can be done with some pretty funny setups. My FC has done an all healer party or an all DPS party. It can be quite amusing, you should try it out!

I think what's frustrating about DPS pulling their own mobs is that the healer can end up tanking. So even if that archer will be fine holding their one mob, the other two will finish off the healer at the first cure.

So as a tank, I can't let the healer get beat up for some DPS's idiocy. It's against the tank code!

In situations where I was faced with this, I used to complain, but I've just kind of given up on setting things straight since it's a waste of time (seriously, they'll just cop an attitude about it, vote to kick you, and that's it). So, I'd just take it as a challenge to hold hate under really tough conditions, which can be fun in itself.

I still think that the DPS shouldn't be pulling in the first place, though, especially if the tank is taking pains to do a proper job. It would be one thing if the tank didn't care at all about holding hate or wearing proper tanking gear, but that didn't seem to be the case here. Refusing to do anything wasn't the right reaction, though. If they were that miserable they should have left, waited 15 minutes, and re-queued.

I'm kind of torn, reading that situation.

On one hand, the PGL is being a little bit of a prima donna himself for not wanting to follow marks and pulling on his own. He knows (or should know) that they don't need the tank for the run but he's still not cooperating anyway.

On the other hand, the GLA's (lack of) actions really kills any sympathy for him. Not only is he a spoiled brat trying to take his ball and go home, he's an idiot too. He should have increased the number of enemies being pulled at the same time, since he wanted to mark. After all, if the healer is bored, humor the healer. It doesn't cost him any more TP/MP to hold aggro on all of them and Lyrailis would have to focus more healing on him, meaning no spare heals for overzealous DPS without running out of MP.

And on a more neutral observation, Tam-Tara can be one the most irritating of the three starter dungeons when you're starting out. I've run into the situation quite a few times still where the mob is there, but you can't target the mob. And it only seems to happen in Tam-Tara. Argh.

This has happened to me on BLM in Stone Vigil, too (both regular and HM.) I discovered it has to do with vertical placement in respect to the mob. You lose line of sight if you're too far off the base plane that the mob is. If you're on steps or an incline, try moving up or down. If you are anyone but the tank, you can also get a proper target on the mob by clicking on the tank and hoping that's the one he is currently fighting. If you're the tank, try moving further away and then closer again.

I probably don't see it outside of Tam-Tara then because tanks I random into dungeons with most likely hate that effect too and learned to stay on level areas for pulls.