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#1 Mar 16 2015 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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Short version: for people who monitor the temperature of their CPU, how hot does it get when you play FFXIV? Mine seems to be averaging around 71 to 72, and maxing out at around 78 degrees Celsius.

Long version: back in January, I noticed that my PC was getting really, REALLY hot. I installed HWMonitor and found that my CPU was going up above 90 degrees Celsius. My PC has a quad core I5-2500 which has a "max" temperature of 72.6 degrees Celsius. I took several steps to cool things down:
1. Cleaned out the dust from the CPU's stock fan.
2. Replaced the CPU's stock fan with an Arctic Freezer 13 using pre-applied thermal compound that came with the new fan.
3. Re-installed the Arctic Freezer 13 using Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound.

The biggest drop happened with the first step. I saw virtually no change at step 2. Then I saw a small drop with step 3.

At this point, the high temperature is still above what is healthy for my CPU. So I'd like to lower the temperature of my CPU some more if I can reasonably accomplish it. I don't plan to do anything drastic like switch to a water based cooling system to accomplish it.

I know this game is very CPU intensive. Is 72 to 78 C just what I should expect to see? Am I trying to squeeze blood from a turnip trying to get it any cooler? Or is the current temperature a sign that I likely didn't apply the Arctic Silver properly? I did the pea sized drop method.
#2 Mar 16 2015 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
My 4770K never goes about 50C even when I'm hammering it with the game.

If you're running Speedfan, you can see if the RPM of your fan isn't at the normal 1000-2000. It's possible for dust to get into the ball bearings and gum things up as well.
#3 Mar 16 2015 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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I believe HWMonitor shows me the fan speed. I could understand if there was an issue with the ball bearings if I was still using the stock fan since that fan was in operation for at least 2 years now. But I would be surprised if the new fan has already developed issues due to dust build up. I suppose it could have issues already if the fan itself was faulty.

Right now I'm not running the game, and the temperature is around 42 C with the fan running at around 1700 RPM.
#4 Mar 16 2015 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
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my first gen i7 doesn't get over 50 in the summer and rarely gets above 30 in the winter. I threw in a GTX 980 this year so it should run cooler this summer with less heat being dumped back into the case. I was running dual 470's which I could have cooked with :p
#5 Mar 16 2015 at 7:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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My FX 8350 runs between 50 and 60 depending on what I'm doing in game. Since AMD stuff generally runs hotter than Intel, if you're getting temps higher than mine, your cooling definitely needs addressing. One thing that really helped me out was buying a better case. The case I was using before only had a three 120mm fans (front, back, side), which just wasn't cutting it. This is the case I'm using now. I paid less than half of what it's going for now, but I'm sure you could find something comparable for a decent price if you looked around a bit.

Edited, Mar 16th 2015 9:01pm by Turin
#6 Mar 16 2015 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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Just noticed you did the pea method, I could be wrong, but I thought the newer intel chips prefer the small grain of rice method just high of center? Something is definitely wrong with your temps. It's either a thermal paste or cooler installation issue, or an overall case/location issue.

What temp is the location of your PC? My room is about 72 degrees F, and the PC is running max settings in Mor Dhona at 31 C.

*EDIT* I'm assuming you've tried a different program to check your temps as well right? And you physically see your fan spinning correct?

Edited, Mar 17th 2015 1:33am by Perrin
#7 Mar 16 2015 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
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Perrin wrote:
Just noticed you did the pea method, I could be wrong, but I thought the newer intel chips prefer the small grain of rice method just high of center? Something is definitely wrong with your temps. It's either a thermal paste or cooler installation issue, or an overall case/location issue.

What temp is the location of your PC? My room is about 72 degrees F, and the PC is running max settings in Mor Dhona at 31 C.

*EDIT* I'm assuming you've tried a different program to check your temps as well right? And you physically see your fan spinning correct?

Edited, Mar 17th 2015 1:33am by Perrin

I've never applied thermal compound by hand before (it's all been pre-applied stuff previously), so I may not have done the best job. The PC is out in the living room and we keep the house at 72. I can definitely see the CPU fan spinning.

I'll try installing another program in addition to HWMonitor to make sure it's not a bug with HWMonitor.
#8 Mar 16 2015 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Most of the time, when my temps have been out of whack, the cooler was seated on the CPU tight enough. Not sure how the Arctic mounts on, but if there are screws, they might need to be tightened some more. My old school Corsair needs to be tightened pretty ridiculously before working properly. The paste definitely helps, but rarely does it drop your temps down THAT much.
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I have a vent right on top of my case and I can look right down at the CPU fan. So when Perrin asked if the fan was actually spinning, I looked down to double check. And then I noticed a large fan in the back of the case appeared to be still.

I opened up the case and checked the power connector for that fan. One of the pins must have been loose, because after I disconnected and then reconnected the power for it, the fan is now spinning and my max temperature has gone down to 60 C, with average temp hovering around 55 to 58 C. Almost 20 degrees C drop, not bad! Thanks for the help, everyone.
#10 Mar 16 2015 at 9:58 PM Rating: Good
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I'd recommend spending around $80 for a Corsair liquid cool kit. My I7 rarely gets over 55 using that. Much quieter too. Takes a bit more work to get the best performance as you need to clean the radiator out every couple of months if you have a dusty environment. One of the best upgrades I've done. I'm also using a Antec 900 series case with a large 240mm fan in the top, exhausting the heat from my to GPUs and CPU radiator. Think the H60 would work well for you. If you get one, make sure you have the case/radiator fan pulling air from the outside into the case and not reverse. If you go reverse, you're just pulling hot air over it and you will see much higher temps.
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#11 Mar 17 2015 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Mine runs pretty hot too, whenever i can really hear my fans, i clean out the case (and the boards inside) and it's drops from 90ºC to about 75ºC again while playing FFXIV. It helps.

Another thing that helped was that i stopped multitasking. At most i have a browser up now. Before i had music on, another game to play while waiting on queue's or even a movie running meanwhile and my browser full of tabs.

You have to realize here, your computer -can- handle 90ºC. And there's a failsafe to keep it from getting hotter than it can handle. It's all metals and plastics, its not going to melt or anything. It just runs a lot better at a low temperature.
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#12 Mar 17 2015 at 4:52 AM Rating: Default
To be honest it can be a number of things which cause temperatures. Had this exact problem on my old CPU - it was old and crap without going in to the technical side of things.

Applying thermal compound correctly can make a bit of a difference.
Decent CPU
Decent ventilation - Gamer Case
Decent Graphics card

If you have the above you shouldn't have any trouble. Having replaced most of the insides of my own PC to intel i7 and GigaByte motherboard XIV runs perfectly and I never suffer any temperature spike or lag. I also put in a decent NVidia card.

Plus the PC is located on the floor, out of direct sun light plus heat rises.
#13 Mar 17 2015 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Glad you figured it out :)
#14 Mar 17 2015 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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Perrin wrote:
Glad you figured it out :)

Ditto. Maddening hardware issues suck. x.x
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