If Im reading this right (alexander loot)Follow

Going to be able to get esoterics gear faster than I can get alexander nm gear, and by doing things I already do that are all infinitely less frustrating and don't require RNG both to get the desired things to drop + winning lots.

Your point would only *maybe* stand if there was no loot lockout in alex, but that in turn would exacerbate the aforementioned loot issues for a while too.

Edited, Jul 23rd 2015 7:49pm by Fynlar

I can also jam these sporks into my eyes. It might not be a happy fun time lollipop activity, sure, but I COULD do it!

In other words, no. I'll take the esoterics route.

With as frustrating as alexander nm is already, I'll definitely pass on savage.

i200 stuff is good enough for me right now

The vast majority of my runs of it have ended in vote dismisses / disbands / abandons. I can literally throw myself at this for hours and not get a single win, let alone actually get any drops.

It's really not THAT easy. CT was easy. Even when you had idiot people/groups mucking things up in there, it still rarely got so bad to the point where the run had to be given up on. Here though, it is commonplace.

Edited, Jul 24th 2015 4:53am by Fynlar

umm how is Alex normal gear "daed"? not like you can have a full or even half a set of alex savage gear now

Skip Alex Savage, go back and do Coil and Ex primals.

We've mowed through Moggle Mog Ex, Garuda Ex, Leviathan Ex, and made a decent go at Ramuh Ex yesterday for our new FC members. (We went in 7 man, uncapped.) The nicest thing about doing a FC only raid is that when things go wrong, you can stop and just hash it out for five minutes without people whining about it taking too long.

I'd like to get in on the Ramuh Ex, Levi Ex, and Shiva Ex. I'll join in if I'm on. Still need those horses =p.

If you get into Alex normal early on in reset time, it's managable, but the fact people still wipe endlessly on Turn 1/3/4 or whatever you want to call it prove its still too hard for the general playerbase.

Nevermind Ravana if they somehow make it past Bismarck.

Also yes, Alex Normal gear is i190, Esoteric is i200, upgradable to i210 meaning in terms of vertical progression, Alex Normal gear is already obsolete as you only need Law gear or below to farm Esoterics and in terms of overall progression. Alex Savage obsoleted all but eso gear. The only reason you need Alex normal gear is if you're going into Savage due to the weekly wall of 450 tomes, as alex normal you could walk away with 2-3 pieces your first week (free bolts at the end A4.) So in all honesty...them now offering a "story mode" with rewards kind of ***** up the overall itemization from here on out because the Alliance Raid n 3.1 will go backwards as usual which was ALREADY due to their initial 2.0 mistake.

Why'd you skip 2? People wipe all the damn time to that one too

That's what's so good about Alex drops and ESO weekly allowance.

I have 3 jobs @ 60 and not far away from my 4th (had over a week off and other half still working - perfect!).

I am earning LAW for my 4th job (all others are capped with at least Law)
Upgrades from seals/hunts tends to be spread between WHM and BRD.
Alex drops are being prioritised on PLD - Second (piece based)
ESO also being prioritised on PLD - Second (piece based)

After capping Law on a job its useful because of the weekly lock out on each ESO and ALEX to also have a third option for a little upgrade. It's also useful to be able to earn Alex drops and ESO's...

If you choose not to worry about Alex drops at all, I assume you either don't have many jobs to worry about or you are happy to wait a while to fully gear up just one single job?

Personally I wish sometimes i only had one job to care about, i can upgrade that from Law > Seals > Alex > ESO and reach Max iLVL as soon as possible. Then I can have people never tell me my gear is crap and then 5 days later tell me it doesn't matter because the high end content other than Alex Savage doesn't need it............

Law gear - 170 - Unlimited
Law Upgrade - 180 - Unlimited
Alex Normal Gear - 190 - Limited
Esoteric Gear - 200 - Limited
Alex Savage Gear + Esoteric upgrades - 210 - Limited

Alexander Normal Gear will be worth getting until they release a higher level item that is not limited in its ability to acquire. It will especially be relevant when it becomes the first limited loot content to be unlocked to an unlimited structure. I seriously doubt that the developers will unlock the restrictions on esoterics, savage alex, or the new 24 man raid before they unlock restrictions on alex normal.

To recap, currently you can run instanced dungeons 24/7 and the best you can hope to obtain on one job from unlimited runs is ilvl179. And the esoterics are under a VERY tight restriction. 3 weeks for a weapon!?! You can sit around and wait ten weeks (2 1/2 months) to cap your main at 200, but alex provides a buffer for your main to be a little bit stronger in the meantime, or can serve to help gear an alt or two jobs simultaneously (so like me, you don't have to tank every single battle for the next two months, bleh). Providing more opportunity to obtain restricted loot with an item level that is higher than our highest level of loot we can obtain in an unlimited manner (ilvl 180) is always welcome in my opinion.


Edited, Jul 30th 2015 2:14pm by Valkayree

PUGs wiped the first few weeks on all the CT wings too.