When did we go from using the term...Follow

DD to DPS, ppl always used DD in FFXI (never once have I seen DPS, used in FFXI to describe a DD, it was only ever used to describe their Damage output) while other games at the time did use it, FFXI did not, thus why is it when XIV came around DPS is now the new norm and DD is extinct? DD is a title, DPS is not, "looking for 4 DDs for Ravanna extreme" sounds a lot less stupid then "looking for 4 DPS for Ravanna extreme" "/reply umm you want 4 DPS? Im sure I can do 4 DPS on my level 1 Archer."

Also considering how cool Hive weapons and allagan weapons look. I really hope SE puts more though into 3.0 Relic design, instead of them just being crappy looking, on color weapons that glow (thats a bit of an exaggeration, but even prior to 3.0 there were LOTS of other weapons that visibly look better than relic.) Whereas FFXI relic design was extremely detailed and looked cool/unique, while everything else looked generic in comparison, I mean pick up two level 75 non relic one handed swords in FFXI and tell me how different they look from eachother, now add a relic sword to the mix... and you see huge differences. Whereas FFXIV "yay this weapon I just bought with tomes looks cooler than my relic AND it glows (referring to first gen upgraded soldiery weapons)

"DPS" has always been the term in generic MMORPGs whereas "DD" (Damage Dealers) sounds a lot better more logical since you're a Damage Dealer, you're not a Damage Per Second.

The new relics does look decent so far (the mesh is in game now but no textures or actual model) so there's that..but Yoshis aid it's basically 2.0 relic quest again. Hopefully they don't nerf Ravana and Bismarck to at least make the relics a somewhat challenge..but of course...

"Well it has to be nerfed because what about the non raiders blah blah blah."

Btw does Foes Requiem do somethin different than I thought it did? I mean if your party setup consist of something like a pld, whm, and 2 brds why does one brd insist that both brds use Foes? I mean, I fail to see the point if theres no BLM or SMN in the party, I mean sure a whm might spam holy but seriously? were mainly using holy for its stuns not its damage output

NIN also benefits from Foe's as it makes Raiton worth casting outside of Kassatsu.

Double BRD though? I wouldn't bother.

Well yeah i myself even said other games that were out when XI was new used DPS too but since XI used DD it would make sense that xivdid the same

That's the term that was most common in Japan at the time. FFXI's vocabulary was heavily influenced by the Japanese playerbase.

While "DPS" may not make the most sense when you expand the acronym, it is the correct colloquial today and it's the term that FFXIV in particular uses in-game.

O.o

Not too many know this even now, but on the alex savage weapons you get from downing the fourth 4 (which still very few have done) you get a weapon that you can dye, and it glows, and the glow color changes with the dye.

Hoping they do this for the new relic.

DPS is the go to term for most MMO games. DD is the size that matters.

I was not aware SE ever used the term "toon" ... ever. Maybe you could point that out?

Also "toon" has been around a lot longer than WoW has.

Yoshi says it in streams sometimes.

Yeah, it's not often but when he says it instead of character you can definitely tell lol.

Yeah, never used toon. Always just said character or char. Then there's that one weird guy that calls them "avatars"