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#1 Oct 08 2015 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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Just happened to come across this bot and recorded him for a while. Decided to just talk about it for a bit and got curious if people know how to spot one.

You can see him here

How many bots have you found? It seems common in this game.
#2 Oct 08 2015 at 6:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Plenty. XIV has the most botting I've seen because it's extremely obvious. Even in XI the only time you seen botting was largely by the large NA HNM linkshells.

Gather bots are extremely obvious, especially when they teleport underground to new nodes.
"Farm" bots are obvious as they gather and attack mobs from underground.
Craft Bots are extremely obvious because no matter how well you set up your macros, you will not sit there for 24 hrs doing the same rotation (I've recorded a few crafters since I make some time lapse videos sometimes.)
"Raid" Bots are the most obvious when you come across one:

The Tank variety of Raid bot tend to use sprint and a basic rotation. For example, in Labyrinth of the Ancients tank bots tend to completely ignore you or anything you suggest and do only the basic rotation with flash. Bad players as well, but the way they do it is fairly robotic because they'll systematically run around and flash (even on stationary pulls) if the monster happens to wiggle a bit because bot programming makes a tank want to gather up stray mobs so a boss moving will make it "think" it's additional mobs.

When the comets are set to drop you'll see tank sprint towards a green tear drop (where the comet will be) and run back and forth until it drops because it's set to pathfind behind the comet so it survives the meteor.

The Heal variety of bot is triggered by text commands, e.g Tank running a heal dual box will say "Cure!/Regen!" and the bot will instantly do it the second the text command shows up. This I know is a trigger command because I spam "Cure! Cure!" when I'm queued in as a DPS and the bot will keep casting cure on me, thus pissing off the tank.

DPS bots are similar to tank raid bots but a lot of times it's just bad people.

It is extremely common in this game compared to other non-F2P games because despite how easy, forgiving and hand holding the game, people want things even easier lol.
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#3 Oct 08 2015 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
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why would anyone wanna bot LoA... or any dungeon in this game for that matter?
#4 Oct 08 2015 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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This I know is a trigger command because I spam "Cure! Cure!" when I'm queued in as a DPS and the bot will keep casting cure on me, thus ******* off the tank.


Best thing I've read all day.
#5 Oct 08 2015 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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why would anyone wanna bot LoA... or any dungeon in this game for that matter?


I think we need to distinguish between the two different bots to explain it.

- RMT bots are doing it for gil.
- Player bots (normal player characters) are doing it because they're lazy.

The bots in Northern Thanalan after Heavensward came out were almost entirely player bots. They're run by legit players who don't want to actually bother doing FATES in NT because it's really boring, but want an easy button to get to level 60 on that job. So they set the bot up in NT, go away for a few hours, and come back to a few free levels that the bot got their character while they were afk.

Player character bots also don't want to wait for queues. In the example of the heal bot above, a tank character has a heal bot in the same party to get them into LotA faster. Same with leveling a DPS job and getting into a dungeon. Get the dual boxed tank bot heal bot to shorten your queue considerably.

RMT bots are less likely to do an activity that doesn't lead directly to gil generation, but they occasionally show up on a stolen account as the RMT running the character is trying to get the bot geared up.
#6 Oct 08 2015 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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It's not just MMOs, but just about any game that can be monetized in anyway or is competitive enough that someone would want to keep making gains while afk.

The only botting that ever really bothered me was botting claims for HNM mobs in XI that only spawned once every few days to a week. Not that I condone the game being played afk, but for the most part none of these bots affected me(at least not enough to bother me) so I didn't really care to waste the energy reporting them.
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#7 Oct 08 2015 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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What I found funny is the people who play devils advocate. The little guy on the horse doubted me so I had him follow me around so he could see the patterns for himself.
#8 Oct 09 2015 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Meh, I see no harm at all in people botting FATEs to level. If SE had bothered to make leveling more interesting people wouldn't cheat to get to 60. RMT bots though, are another matter...if the this was a game where the economy mattered in the slightest. Unless you craft for the enjoyment of crafting, there is really no reason to do it, and crafting is the only thing in the game that takes any significant amount of gil. If you could still find any housing plots left, that would be the only other to to need money for, but you can't. That makes botting pretty much harmless to this game.
#9 Oct 09 2015 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Stupid double post...

Edited, Oct 9th 2015 7:29pm by Turin
#10 Oct 09 2015 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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The problem can be shown by taking a teenage thief for example. They start out stealing junk food and pop, which is really just not a huge deal. But in time it grows more and more into a habit as they don't get caught and eventually hey start stealing larger thIngs or money.

Botting is similar because they start using it as a convenience but then decide it's easier to just use it for all the things they can and reap the rewards. No doubt people bot crafting jobs and make killer cash on the market. Which in turn just forces others to try and keep up by either playing more to make more money or bot themselves. It's a bad cycle.
#11 Oct 09 2015 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I reject your ridiculous slippery slope argument.
#12 Oct 09 2015 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Turin wrote:
I reject your ridiculous slippery slope argument.


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#13 Oct 10 2015 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Poor analogy Chesder.

Anyway, botting materials usually results in flooding the market. While this may hurt someone who is trying to farm and sell the same items, it's good for the person who earns gil elsewhere and is trying to buy said items. That's a wash. The only tuime bots are farming something that ruins the economy is when it's something that is a developer oversight(see FFXI's great christmas inflation).

Since it's been around long enough that it's already well documented most developers already consider it to minimize the impact on the average player. No one is advocating for bots, but most people don't really care because it doesn't affect them. While it's true that you probably lose some gil due to a bot undercutting you on something, you also lose money following them around and reporting them to the task force.

RMT rakes in billions of dollars every year selling currency, items and accounts for a slew of games. It's a waste of your time trying to get bots you notice banned because they can easily afford to make another account and replace 'farmbot a' with 'farmbot b' in a matter of days. Most people realize their time and energy is better spent elsewhere.

Edited, Oct 10th 2015 3:28am by FilthMcNasty
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Only hips + boobs all day and hips + boobs all over my icecream

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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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