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#1 Mar 29 2017 at 6:08 PM Rating: Default
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1. Sooo ummm when did Yda die? Was it during our time playing the game or was it Pre ARR or after the calamity but before we start playing?

2. So is Lyse the girl in the stormblood trailer in the red dress?

3. Is Doma and Ala Mhigo the same pace? or in the Same place?


Soo I just found out Eorzea is the name of the land the game takes place in.. I thought it was the name of the planet.
#2 Mar 30 2017 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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1. Sooo ummm when did Yda die? Was it during our time playing the game or was it Pre ARR or after the calamity but before we start playing?

2. So is Lyse the girl in the stormblood trailer in the red dress?

3. Is Doma and Ala Mhigo the same pace? or in the Same place?


Soo I just found out Eorzea is the name of the land the game takes place in.. I thought it was the name of the planet.


1. Well, I know they said six years ago, so probably sometime between the calamity and ARR. That's just a guess, though.

2. I think it's fairly definite that the girl in the trailer is Lyse. I'm not absolutely certain, of course, but Lyse and that girl look so similar that I think it's safe to assume so.

3. Nope. Ala Mhigo is on the continet of Aldenard, same as where we've been so far this whole time. Doma is on the continent of Othard, far to the east of Aldenard.

I've always assumed Eorzea wasn't so much the name of a landmass but more a geopolitical name for the loose confederation of city-states that make up Eorzea; not quite a country, but more than just totally independent governments. I do think a case could be made for Eorzea being another name for the continent. One way or the other, you are correct; it is not the name of the planet. The name of the planet is the same name as the mothercrystal (sorry, I don't wish to misspell it :3).
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#3 Mar 30 2017 at 2:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've always assumed Eorzea wasn't so much the name of a landmass but more a geopolitical name for the loose confederation of city-states that make up Eorzea; not quite a country, but more than just totally independent governments.


Yeah, I always considered it more of a territory/region too, not a continent.

The planet is Hydaelyn.
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#4 Mar 30 2017 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so
#5 Mar 30 2017 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Well that's exactly what they're doing
#6 Mar 30 2017 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm still kind of shocked that we never get to explore the Tavnazian ruins in FFXI. Biggest missed opportunity of all time!

But yeah, I'm stoked for the new XIV expansion. Obviously, I don't play for the same reasons as folks like Hio. I just love the game, its world and my FC mates. I'm excited to get out there, experience a new storyline and adventure in new lands.

AND I'm excited for the red mage job! Totally going to hang up my bow and arrow and get serious about making red mage a true second job.

Three months until the expansion, and then three more months until college football. Life is good.
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#7 Mar 30 2017 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.
#8 Apr 09 2017 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.


Actually you CAN say it if you stopped playin at the end of 2009 thus never even finished WoTG of even played the 3rd mini expansion (sahnttoto one)
#9 Apr 09 2017 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Well that's exactly what they're doing



Well from what I saw in the Samurai Trailer all I can say is having a "chinatown" like district in a major city isnt the same as having a full fledged Asian inspired city (and possibility surrounding area) and considering they claim Ala Mihgo is a desert I expect it to look more like Thanalan then some asian influenced area
#10 Apr 09 2017 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.


Actually you CAN say it if you stopped playin at the end of 2009 thus never even finished WoTG of even played the 3rd mini expansion (sahnttoto one)


*sigh*

Minor technicality and a rather poor one at that.

Surely you can do better than that?

That's like me saying "WoW never let me get to see Sargeras's Tomb!" because I quit prior to Legion.

It isn't that you never "got" to go to the Far East, you chose not to.
#11 Apr 09 2017 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
BrokenFox wrote:
Well that's exactly what they're doing



Well from what I saw in the Samurai Trailer all I can say is having a "chinatown" like district in a major city isnt the same as having a full fledged Asian inspired city (and possibility surrounding area) and considering they claim Ala Mihgo is a desert I expect it to look more like Thanalan then some asian influenced area


We're literally going to (fantasy) Japan
#12 Apr 09 2017 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.


Actually you CAN say it if you stopped playin at the end of 2009 thus never even finished WoTG of even played the 3rd mini expansion (sahnttoto one)


*sigh*

Minor technicality and a rather poor one at that.

Surely you can do better than that?

That's like me saying "WoW never let me get to see Sargeras's Tomb!" because I quit prior to Legion.

It isn't that you never "got" to go to the Far East, you chose not to.


No I didnt CHOOSE not to I was forced not to :p. Sure I could do so NOW but I dont wanna deal with all the catch up (storywise) Id have to do
#13 Apr 09 2017 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.


Actually you CAN say it if you stopped playin at the end of 2009 thus never even finished WoTG of even played the 3rd mini expansion (sahnttoto one)


*sigh*

Minor technicality and a rather poor one at that.

Surely you can do better than that?

That's like me saying "WoW never let me get to see Sargeras's Tomb!" because I quit prior to Legion.

It isn't that you never "got" to go to the Far East, you chose not to.


No I didnt CHOOSE not to I was forced not to :p. Sure I could do so NOW but I dont wanna deal with all the catch up (storywise) Id have to do


Forced by someone other than SE, I assume?

There is actually, not a lot of catch-up to do. Once you get Lv99 and a suit of 117 starter armor handed to you (yes, it's handed to you), you can then go and steamroll all the missions. If you had Promathia done at the very least, getting to Reisenjima is not that hard. The main roadblock is progressing Promathia far enough to open up that part of the Rhapsodies questline (and if you go too far, you gotta go all the way up to Sea, before you get another opportunity lol).

But if you've got Promathia done, you've got most of the work done as far as Rhapsodies goes. A few rather easy missions for a Lv99+117 character and you'll be in Reisenjima... of course, with Lv117 gear, you'll get your sorry b*tt handed to you by mobs right inside of Reisenjima, but meh. You can still visit the place and go 'ooo' and 'aaah'.

Edited, Apr 9th 2017 7:57pm by Lyrailis
#14 Apr 09 2017 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Well lets hope FFXIV finally give us what FFXI never did at that is let us finally go to and see The Far East... or in XIVs case Doma.. Im ready to finally see a Japanese looking setting and what better place than the place where the Ninja (Yugiri) and Samurai (Gotetsu) comes from? Ala Mhigo doesnt look like it fits the bill quite so


You get to go to Reisenjima in FFXI, even though it's just a bamboo forest with some Far Eastern "ruins" at the end of it.

Still, you can't say you can't go to the Far East when you can.


Actually you CAN say it if you stopped playin at the end of 2009 thus never even finished WoTG of even played the 3rd mini expansion (sahnttoto one)


*sigh*

Minor technicality and a rather poor one at that.

Surely you can do better than that?

That's like me saying "WoW never let me get to see Sargeras's Tomb!" because I quit prior to Legion.

It isn't that you never "got" to go to the Far East, you chose not to.


No I didnt CHOOSE not to I was forced not to :p. Sure I could do so NOW but I dont wanna deal with all the catch up (storywise) Id have to do


Forced by someone other than SE, I assume?

There is actually, not a lot of catch-up to do. Once you get Lv99 and a suit of 117 starter armor handed to you (yes, it's handed to you), you can then go and steamroll all the missions. If you had Promathia done at the very least, getting to Reisenjima is not that hard. The main roadblock is progressing Promathia far enough to open up that part of the Rhapsodies questline (and if you go too far, you gotta go all the way up to Sea, before you get another opportunity lol).

But if you've got Promathia done, you've got most of the work done as far as Rhapsodies goes. A few rather easy missions for a Lv99+117 character and you'll be in Reisenjima... of course, with Lv117 gear, you'll get your sorry b*tt handed to you by mobs right inside of Reisenjima, but meh. You can still visit the place and go 'ooo' and 'aaah'.

Edited, Apr 9th 2017 7:57pm by Lyrailis



forced by the fact that the game isnt free to play and i no longer had the means to pay for it at the time thus couldnt. Also my goal if nothing else would be to do EVERY SINGLE piece of story relate content... that includes rhapsodies so would minimum gear would I need to solo or at least be useful in a party for that? how long would it take to get? What about getting to level 99 and capping all my merits.. how long would that take (already at 75)
#15 Apr 09 2017 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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forced by the fact that the game isnt free to play and i no longer had the means to pay for it at the time thus couldnt. Also my goal if nothing else would be to do EVERY SINGLE piece of story relate content... that includes rhapsodies so would minimum gear would I need to solo or at least be useful in a party for that? how long would it take to get? What about getting to level 99 and capping all my merits.. how long would that take (already at 75)


75->99 is incredibly easy. You'd have a little legwork and prepwork to do, but once you did that, it'd take off considerably. It doesn't matter how well you are geared now, ALL of your gear (except for maybe a few select pieces of jewelry) are going to be replaced the moment you ding 99.

Basically, you'd need to activate Records of Eminence (easy), Unity (easy), Trusts (easy) and then go grab whatever Trusts you can grab (depending on what missions you had done already).

Then, you'd do the first couple Rhapsody missions because the Key Items are absurdly powerful (the first one alone gives you a permanent +30% experience gain buff!) as some of them can be done Pre-99.

Once you got that done, then it'd be time to go level up to 99. This would not take long at all, because You+4 trusts is basically almost as good as a full 6-man XP group was back in the day. 5 days after your first login, you'd have enough Login Points to buy a Caliber Ring which would speed it up even further (you can also buy them with mules). Said ring gives +150% XP gain until you've gotten 30,000 free XP and usually that's good for a levelup or two by itself, per charge (each ring has 3 charges).

That, with the records of eminence objectives (set as many as you can that you can foresee yourself doing, especially the Spoils (Crystals) ones), it's not uncommon to gain a level per hour, even in the 80s. You'd basically stick to Even Match to Tough depending on your job and Trust selection, and with Caliber Ring active, it's not too uncommon to see 1500-1800xp per kill. If you do it early Sunday Morning or Wednesday Afternoon while Gain Experience is up, every 5,000 XP you get from mob kills (Ring and RoE XP doesn't count), you get 1500 free XP which makes it even faster.

You can buy a new weapon for your job at 87, and new armor at 78 (need Cruor and Abyssea Access for that though, unless you ask someone to buy some for you, if you're on Fairy/Slyph, I'd happily do that for you).

Once you got to Lv99, you are handed a free (almost) suit of Item-Level 117 gear, which makes you easily strong enough to solo anything that was Lv75 previously (which is to say everything Pre-Abyssea, including WoTG), and some Abyssea stuff can even be solo'd.

There's a guide over on BG-Wiki on what to do once you are freshly Level 99 (search for "fresh 99" and it should be the first thing it spits out). When you see that huge list of stuff to do, you might be overwhelmed, but don't be! It only takes about 5-6 hours to do that whole list of stuff (except for the part about trying to get a WKR done, that varies by server).

Once you do that list on BG-Wiki, you should have enough to join Volume 2 VD Ambuscade which will give you rather decent 119 armor. From there, join a Linkshell, and well... the rest of Vana'diel is basically your sandbox (except for Escha, and Reisenjima, and a few select mobs in Adoulin) that you can solo with ease.

EDIT: Capping Merits is ridiculously easy. Once you get to 117, it's possible to get 3-5k xp per kill in Adoulin which is to say nothing about Escha or Reisenjima. Once you get 119 gear from Ambuscade, you can go to Reisenjima and get 6,000+ per kill, easy, assuming you did enough Rhapsodies. That's a Merit every other kill, lol. My MULES that are Lv99 (yes I have Lv99 mules lol) with weak 117 gear can kill the easiest enemies in Adoulin with XP ring up and get 3500 per kill on a Chain #2+. I can get about 8-10 merits in 30 minutes. With a wimpy-geared mule.

EDIT2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/122366036

There's a sample of a character that's only missing 1 rhapsody, killing the weakest enemy in Adoulin. Also, the coolest WS I've ever seen. I realize the XP gain scrolls off-screen too fast, but I managed to pause it. It was 1165 or 1162. I can't see it quite clearly enough. That's an "Incredibly Easy Prey". There are lots of mobs that give 5k+ lol.

Edited, Apr 9th 2017 8:27pm by Lyrailis
#16 Apr 09 2017 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I obviously dont expect you to know exact numbers but how many hours would you estimate weer looking at for 75-99 then completing WoTG, moogle kupo detat, shanttotto accessions, seekers and ALL of rhapsodies (also abyssea if i has a story but last i checked it doesnt). That would be my only goal before re-retiring
#17 Apr 09 2017 at 8:20 PM Rating: Good
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Well, 75-99.... I dunno, 20ish? 25? Depends on how fast/good you are, how well geared you were at 75, how fast you can adapt to the new systems, etc.

The mini addons, I really don't know. Couldn't tell you.

Rhapsodies... some of those cutscenes are not exactly short. Seekers is going to kill you, you can't go anywhere with its MSQ until you've done 80 Imprimaturs. Said Imprimaturs replenish at 1 per 6 hours and you can hold 15 at any given time, so that's a rather beefy time-gate. But you can just let them build in and log on and just do a few every couple days or something until you get enough.

Here's a better idea:

I restarted in November '16. About Late-Jan to Early-Feb I was almost at the end of Rhapsodies, though I did a lot of side-junk, crafting, etc. Probably playing like 10 or so hours a week.

I was 99 when I started, but I had zero or almost zero ToAU/WoTG stuff done whatsoever, and I hadn't even touched Adoulin or Rhapsodies when I re-started in November.
#18 Apr 10 2017 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Ummm which was the idea part of that "better idea"? If there was supposed to be a suggestion in there I completely missed it lol
#19 Apr 10 2017 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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DuoMaxwellxx wrote:
Ummm which was the idea part of that "better idea"? If there was supposed to be a suggestion in there I completely missed it lol


"Better idea" = "Better idea of how long it would take".
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