Almalieque wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Yes, thank you for your input.
Except not, because it was stupid.
[EDIT]
That was at Alma, obviously.
Edited, Aug 27th 2013 6:25pm by idiggory
Are you claiming that every transgender has/had a disorder?
SPG wrote:
I'm waiting for this to all come down to how we define 'gender' and 'disorder.'
Again. Smiley: rolleyes
That's what it is all about.
Granted, the stuff you've spewed since you made these comments is even more idiotic, but the point is that regardless of whether or not it is a disorder really doesn't matter for the conversation.
These are people who, generally, have a set of sexual organs that do not match the gender identity they possess. Expression of that gender identity, which is almost universally a transition away from the gender identity they were culturally forced to express while growing up, is the ultimate goal.
For a cis person, you are culturally raised to express your gender identity. For a trans person, you are culturally raised to express a different gender identity. The ultimate goal, here, is to aid someone in transitioning their gender expression to match their gender identity. Normally, this process happens over the course of childhood.
Most trans persons, and a significant portion of the psychologist population, opposed the terminology of GID, as it is not a disorder in the classical sense, and its classification as such brings more harm than simply stigma. But as DSM V was just released, with that terminology unchanged, it's going to continue to be called GID for the forseeable future.
Either way, no licensed psychologist (or one interested in keeping their license) is interested in forcing a trans person into a box. They work with them to teach them to express their gender identity as they see fit, which is something they never learned to do growing up. Some trans persons are interested in fully transitioning to a the feminine end of the gender spectrum. Most hover somewhere in the middle. Many have fluid gender identities that change over time at a pace much more rapid than most.
If a client feels like physical changes are necessary for them to properly express their gender identity, or feel comfortable in their own skin, then they can have access to hormone treatments and SRS.
The point being, therapy isn't about shaming them into anything. It's helping them reach the point of ********** off, I am who I am" with their gender expression that most people manage to achieve through their normal development, as their gender expression isn't so constantly policed.