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#1 Feb 03 2014 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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This ad is apparently controversial. I'll let you figure out why because I couldn't.



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#3 Feb 03 2014 at 7:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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There were no white people in it.

Also, one of the girls is wasting cocaine by blowing it off of her hand.
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#4 Feb 03 2014 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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cynyck wrote:
This ad is apparently controversial. I'll let you figure out why because I couldn't.


The ad isn't controversial. The comments made by random people emboldened by the anonymity of the internet are controversial.
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#5 Feb 03 2014 at 8:09 PM Rating: Default
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cynyck wrote:
This ad is apparently controversial. I'll let you figure out why because I couldn't.


Assuming you're talking about the coke ad (youtube links don't work in my browser at work), it's controversial because it was frankly a hamfisted display of every progressive cultural idea you could jam into 60 seconds of airtime. I guess my issue with it (and I remember noticing it at the time, but had honestly forgotten about it until now) was that it was just too overdone. You want society to be accepting and diverse, then show normal amounts of diversity every day in normal every day things. Making a grand and obvious show of it smacks of white folks constantly making a point of talking about their black friends.

It's trying too hard IMO. You defeat the entire point of the exercise if you're beating people over the head with your image of a perfect multicultural world. More problematic is that you more or less do it intentionally to invite backlash. There's a point where it's not really about someone being bigoted but rather just being annoyed that you're constantly putting "let's all not be bigoted" messages in front of them. It's insulting really. Kinda like how if someone stands in front of you and says "Let's not fight" over and over for an hour, it's going to really make you want to hit that person in the face.


And frankly, since I noticed a number of comments in response to Leahy's response, there's a difference between people of multiple cultures and backgrounds becoming one America (which is the idea behind the whole "E Pluribus Unum" angle) and people of multiple cultures and backgrounds demanding that America must adjust to them instead of the other way around. Totally different. So yeah, having people singing America the Beautiful in multiple languages does kinda send the wrong message. Actually, not "kinda", it does send the message that a beautiful America is one where everyone speaks all these different languages. Which is certainly controversial.
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#6 Feb 03 2014 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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I think there was a white person in it. At the beginning, a cowboy actually.

And I didn't get the message that a beautiful America is one where everyone speaks all these different languages. My grandparents spoke Italian. If Coke had made a commercial in which it filmed the people in Brooklyn 50 years ago, there would have been a lot of people singing in Italian. People do not come to the US and immediately start speaking the King's English, there is a period of adjustment. I think the ad is realistic.

I guess we all see something different, based upon what our life experiences have been. And I suppose it's scary for the old immigrants when they become the new boss. Same as the old boss?

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#7 Feb 03 2014 at 9:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, one of the girls is wasting cocaine by blowing it off of her hand.


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#8 Feb 03 2014 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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Is there anything more American than America?

^ An actual quote from one of the commercials. I mean seriously.
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The writers don't have to try because America.
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#10 Feb 04 2014 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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send the message that a beautiful America is one where everyone speaks all these different languages. Which is certainly controversial.
How? Your country is built on the backs of immigrants from all over the world.
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#11 Feb 04 2014 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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American nationalism is pretty disturbing sometimes.
#12 Feb 04 2014 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
1st it was the cheerios commercial with the white mother...
Now a song written by a lesbian is being sung in different languages!?
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#13 Feb 04 2014 at 7:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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send the message that a beautiful America is one where everyone speaks all these different languages. Which is certainly controversial.
How? Your country is built on the backs of immigrants from all over the world.
Shhh, we haven't told certain people, mostly in the south and west, about them. Gotta make our own entertainment.
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gbaji wrote:

And frankly, since I noticed a number of comments in response to Leahy's response, there's a difference between people of multiple cultures and backgrounds becoming one America (which is the idea behind the whole "E Pluribus Unum" angle) and people of multiple cultures and backgrounds demanding that America must adjust to them instead of the other way around. Totally different. So yeah, having people singing America the Beautiful in multiple languages does kinda send the wrong message. Actually, not "kinda", it does send the message that a beautiful America is one where everyone speaks all these different languages. Which is certainly controversial.
You're serious?!

Maybe it's you that has this decades old image of America and you expect everyone else to fit into it?

There are Americans that speak languages besides English. Recognize them as equal citizens of your country or don't. Your choice. But don't come complaining here when 'your' side only gets a sliver of the non-white vote.

Coca-cola just wants the world to sing in perfect harmony - and to sell as many bottles of soda as they can.





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American nationalism is pretty disturbing sometimes.

I like to think that the rest of the world blows it out of proportion a bit....but then I read a gbaji post. Smiley: oyvey
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I think it's because most political parties here that are nationalistic also tend to be racist and anti islam and not uncommonly antisemetic as well. Or just badly disguised neo *****.

When I see the zealous nationalism from the USA, that's what comes to mind. I'm not saying it's the same but I find it disturbing nonetheless.
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It's the headscarf thing right?

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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I think it's because most political parties here that are nationalistic also tend to be racist and anti islam and not uncommonly antisemetic as well. Or just badly disguised neo *****.

When I see the zealous nationalism from the USA, that's what comes to mind. I'm not saying it's the same but I find it disturbing nonetheless.


Nationalism itself is pretty disturbing. What's particularly disconcerting about American nationalism is the fact that's so wide spread and tends to carry with it particularly harmful anti-education, anti-science, etc. thoughts. Why improve upon something when it's already perfect??

(Particularly when that lets you keep your world small and limit your exposure to anything you don't understand or don't like).
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One of our politicians wanted to tax headscarfs and gave his plan the elegant name of "headrag tax".
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
One of our politicians wanted to tax headscarfs and gave his plan the elegant name of "headrag tax".
Its not politics if someone isn't offended?
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#21 Feb 04 2014 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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I had heard about this but didn't actually see it myself because I just don't care about football or sports... but now that I've actually watched it... what is the big deal? The seven seconds they showed a gay couple hugging their daughter at a bowling alley? Seven seconds out of an entire minute commercial, and THAT'S what people were up in arms over? The way folks made it sound I thought the entire commercial was just a gay family, and even that was a stretch to be all pissy about.

Folks need to seriously take a look at their priorities if this is what they zero in on. To be honest, I almost missed it and had to rewind a couple times. Just not that big a deal.
#22 Feb 04 2014 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was under the impression it was not about the gays, but the fact that they aren't speaking "American"
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Not speaking American, all sorts of brown people, gays, headscarfs...

The whole thing stinks of liberal. Smiley: disappointed
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The whole thing stinks of liberal. Smiley: disappointed

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Admittedly, the outrage I heard of was specifically because of the circles I run in but I agree - both are so rock ******* stupid to be upset over that I can't even imagine having that much hate bottled up inside.
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Yeah, most of the anger is from the "This is America, speak English!" idiots.
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