gbaji wrote:
Not sure I should even bother, but:
And all the other laws we have give you absolutely no Constitutional protections if the local police decide you're the guy who just robbed a bank, took a 6 year old girl hostage, and are holed up in your home. Guess what? They're going to come storming into your house, guns out and potentially blazing if you make the slightest wrong move. Do mistakes happen like this? Yeah. Are they extremely rare? Yeah. Does this mean that the constitution no longer applied? Not at all.
This BS is not extremely rare in the Obama Administration. Hell, Obama doesn't even need a warrant or charge to assassinate someone. Good luck challenging an NDAA hit order on you before you even know it exists, so thus are dead. Or a FISA where you have no idea your records were subpeonaed--and not by any judge's warrants or decisions.
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Convenient. It's happening to all sorts of people, but there are no clearly documented cases or lawsuits because they aren't allowed to speak about it! No conspiracy theory going on here at all!
Are you willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant? Google "Patriot Act + Gag Order" to inform yourself. Hey, here's an early hit:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/patriot-act-gag/
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On Tuesday, a New York judge ruling in the lawsuit brought by the anonymous ISP president, declined to lift the gag placed on him, despite the new gagging standards announced by the 2nd Circuit. The lower court judge’s decision was based on secret evidence the FBI provided.
The judge said the government claimed national security (.pdf) was at issue. Lifting the gag, he wrote, “could tip off the target of an ongoing investigation as well as other individuals who are under investigation.â€
The plaintiff’s lawyers, of the American Civil Liberties Union, were not privy to what the government told U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero in private while urging him not to lift what is now a 5-year-old gag.
What is the charge, exactly? Well, we don't know, since the defendant and his lawyers are legally required to never say what it is.
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“To my knowledge, there’s three recipients who have ever challenged the NSL gag. That’s of the hundreds of thousands that have been issued,†said Melissa Goodman, an ACLU attorney on the case decided Tuesday.
While you're on Google, also look up "National Security Letter".
eta: quote fix
Edited, Oct 16th 2012 6:53am by Palpitus1