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#27 Jun 24 2014 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
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People who still pay with checks are even worse.

Or people who pay by check and insist on filling it all out by pen even though the store has it set up so they just scan the check, get the routing information, and all you have to do is sign the pad... and the cashier is too quiet, polite, or not caring to tell the old person they don't have to fill it out.


It had been so long since I had taken my checkbook anywhere that I didn't know this. I had to break down and buy a new pellet stove this winter, as my old one went tits up. So I transferred the appropriate amount from my savings to my checking account, went in and placed the order, and wrote out the check (since the amount was over my daily debit card limit). I finished the whole thing and the gal scanned it and gave it back to me.

I was so confused... and then she made me feel old when she explained it to me.

As to the original point, I wasn't aware companies got dinged for CC charges either. I've never been told not to use it. I used to carry cash around for small purchases just because, but lately I've been doing everything on the debit card since my bank's online features allow for some pretty nifty budget and tracking tools, so I've been trying to see what my spending habits are so I can adjust and be a little bit more financially responsible.

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#28 Jun 25 2014 at 12:42 AM Rating: Good
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My debit card has a higher cash back % for trivial purchases. Larger stuff, sure cc is better.

While it varies considerably more, I prefer to pay in cash for the same reason. I can usually get about 20% or more of my money back, depending on the denominations and price involved. This is the main reason I try to pay for my lunch with a Benjamin whenever I can, despite the looks clerks give me.
#29 Jun 25 2014 at 6:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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What I've seen before in places where the fee for using debit card was too much for the store owner to eat, they simply had a $0.50 add-on fee for using debit. Rather simple and not enough to scare most people off from using them.
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#30 Jun 25 2014 at 6:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, a debit card is not actually a check, but it is used like a check because you don't have a line of credit, you can only use what is in your account. Unless you have overdraft checking which complicates things. That's what Enterprise has a problem with, they cannot have my bank set aside $500 of my credit limit against the amount I will owe when I return the car because my debit card is not a . . . credit card.,
That's funny, hotels do pretty much exactly that all the time. Which is why you should never use a debit card at a hotel. Especially on a weekend with a bank holiday.
Yea, you guys and your stupid banks. When a Canadian bank client uses their debit card, it pulls the money out instantly, but when you the retailer release that deposit, it also puts it back into their account instantly.
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#31 Jun 25 2014 at 6:48 AM Rating: Decent
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What I've seen before in places where the fee for using debit card was too much for the store owner to eat

This doesn't exist. It's a ******* quarter. That's the "fee" we're talking about being "too much" for store owners. If you aren't profiting enough to fade a quarter on every exchange of cash in your retail operation, you're DOING IT WRONG.
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#32 Jun 25 2014 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
What I've seen before in places where the fee for using debit card was too much for the store owner to eat, they simply had a $0.50 add-on fee for using debit. Rather simple and not enough to scare most people off from using them.

Surcharges for credit/debit card use isn't lawful in some states. Mine being one of them.
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#33 Jun 25 2014 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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What I've seen before in places where the fee for using debit card was too much for the store owner to eat

This doesn't exist. It's a @#%^ing quarter. That's the "fee" we're talking about being "too much" for store owners. If you aren't profiting enough to fade a quarter on every exchange of cash in your retail operation, you're DOING IT WRONG.
Of course it exists. Just because you and I think a quarter is insignificant, doesn't mean crazy store owner doesn't. If you have a problem with it, you don't shop there.
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#34 Jun 25 2014 at 6:52 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
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What I've seen before in places where the fee for using debit card was too much for the store owner to eat, they simply had a $0.50 add-on fee for using debit. Rather simple and not enough to scare most people off from using them.

Surcharges for credit/debit card use isn't lawful in some states. Mine being one of them.
Man you guys love to regulate stupid **** and let the important stuff roam free.
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#35 Jun 25 2014 at 6:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Of course it exists. Just because you and I think a quarter is insignificant, doesn't mean crazy store owner doesn't.

That doesn't make it "too much". "Too much" would mean they were losing money on transactions because of the fee. Did you mean "more than the store owner wants to eat"?
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#36 Jun 25 2014 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
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I thought it was pretty clear by now but if not, yes, I meant "wants to eat".
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Man you guys love to regulate stupid sh*t and let the important stuff roam free.

Maybe Elinda is right about it being the law in places but my understanding (as someone who has never operated a store and this never needed to care) is that the "No extra fees" is part of the service users agreement with the banks. Mastercard wants you using your Mastercard so they tell the merchants that they're not allowed to tack on an extra fee so Mastercard users aren't discouraged from using it. Since not accepting Mastercard is worse for sales than the occasional fee ding, they go along.

I believe that you're not supposed to be allowed to set a purchase minimum for using a card either but so it goes.
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#38 Jun 25 2014 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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Man you guys love to regulate stupid sh*t and let the important stuff roam free.
That's because it isn't our constitutional right to drive cars.
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#39 Jun 25 2014 at 9:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Of course it exists. Just because you and I think a quarter is insignificant, doesn't mean crazy store owner doesn't.

That doesn't make it "too much". "Too much" would mean they were losing money on transactions because of the fee.
Which I imagine is why some places don't let you use a debit card on minor transactions. A store that relies on a large number of people making a lot of $2 - $3 purchases is going to feel that bite pretty strong.
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#40 Jun 25 2014 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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Some of our small businesses are working on a pretty small profit margin. I think though, that they'll lose more by not taking credit/debit cards than them would if they just increased their prices by a 1/2 percent or so.

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Eleven states—California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Oklahoma and Texas—and Puerto Rico have laws that prohibit merchants from charging consumers with surcharges on credit card transactions.

Nine states—California, Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming—and Puerto Rico have laws that allow merchants to give discounts to encourage consumers to use forms of payment other than credit or debit cards.
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Of course it exists. Just because you and I think a quarter is insignificant, doesn't mean crazy store owner doesn't.

That doesn't make it "too much". "Too much" would mean they were losing money on transactions because of the fee.
Which I imagine is why some places don't let you use a debit card on minor transactions. A store that relies on a large number of people making a lot of $2 - $3 purchases is going to feel that bite pretty strong.

Ice Cream stands rarely take cards. It's probably a good thing.
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Elinda wrote:
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Nine states—California, Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming—and Puerto Rico have laws that allow merchants to give discounts to encourage consumers to use forms of payment other than credit or debit cards.

I've never seen a "cash discount" (I'm sure they exist somewhere though) but I know Speedway gives a 2¢/gal discount for using a debit card over a credit card.
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#43 Jun 25 2014 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can usually get a deal or something else thrown in to sporting goods if you're shopping at a smaller store and offer to pay with cash.
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#44 Jun 25 2014 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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We've run into cash discounts a couple of times. A few of the gas stations around here do it, and the savings is around 5-10 cents a gallon. If we go U-pick some fruit or something the people are usually grateful we pay in cash, and they've discounted our purchase a couple of times, or thrown something else in. "Well since you're paying in cash we'll say $40 is close enough" kind of thing.
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#45 Jun 25 2014 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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Local small grocery store in the neighborhood, has a $10 minimum on purchases with a debit or credit card. So I usually try to find a few extra things I may not have thought of buying if I had cash on hand, over using the ATM in the back of the store. Around here using a ATM, so you can have the cash for a small purchase, is an invitation for getting rob. Also why I don't buy money orders at the local post office without making sure to fill it out before I leave the premises.
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#46 Jun 25 2014 at 10:06 AM Rating: Good
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I've never seen a "cash discount"
Yeah, part of me wishes I lived in one of the states that had that, but then that part of me is beaten to death by the other parts of me that realize I'd have to voluntarily live in one of those states.
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#47 Jun 25 2014 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've never seen a "cash discount"
Yeah, part of me wishes I lived in one of the states that had that, but then that part of me is beaten to death by the other parts of me that realize I'd have to voluntarily live in one of those states.

States AND Puerto Rico. In case you, I don't know, needed a reason to move there with your reluctant girlfriend.
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Some of our small businesses are working on a pretty small profit margin. I think though, that they'll lose more by not taking credit/debit cards than them would if they just increased their prices by a 1/2 percent or so.

Yeah, you're probably right. It's not like there's been a multi trillion dollar test of if it's a viable thing to do for ******* decades or anything. Let's not risk charging 91 cents for a soda instead of 89.

Ice Cream stands rarely take cards. It's probably a good thing.

Classic money laundering front, ice cream stands. Really.
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#49 Jun 25 2014 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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Classic money laundering front, ice cream stands. Really.

Second only to lemonade stands.

Edited, Jun 25th 2014 12:35pm by TirithRR
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#50 Jun 25 2014 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
In case you, I don't know, needed a reason to move there with your reluctant girlfriend.
It is getting a bit difficult hiding her from the wife.
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#51 Jun 25 2014 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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You can usually get a deal or something else thrown in to sporting goods if you're shopping at a smaller store and offer to pay with cash.

Not the same thing, but at a cash-only burger bar I've gone to, if you show them a receipt from their atm, you get a free shot. (A shot of Malort, but hey, still a good value for the $3 atm fee).
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