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gbaji wrote:
Because "forward" and "better" (or even "good") are not synonymous terms. Going forward towards a cliff isn't a good idea.
...and what was your sides idea for health care?
Well, since
20 seconds on google gets you an answer, you aren't really asking this question seriously, but just repeating it so that it appears as though "my side" has no answer.
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Oh they didn't have one.
You know what's really annoying about this? This is probably the 10th time in the last few years someone has insisted that "conservatives have no plan" for something, to which I respond with an easily found link to exactly the plan they insist doesn't exist. Saying something over and over doesn't make it true. It makes you a freaking puppet.
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Let the market take care of it.
The portions that the market does the best job taking care of, yes. I'll also point out that just because you don't like an alternative doesn't mean that one doesn't exist.
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Let big pharma get richer.
As opposed to Obamacare? The ACA creates a "free money" scenario in our health care system. Which will result in every single for profit component of the system gorging themselves. What the hell do you think happens when the government passes a law mandating that everyone must purchase something?
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Let the poor go to the emergency room for their wellness needs.
The poor will still go to the emergency room for their wellness needs. People need to stop thinking that "the poor" would all be healthy and happy if only they could afford to visit a doctor regularly. You're displaying a complete lack of understanding of the driving issues and problems that "the poor" suffer. I'll give you a hint: It's not actually about lack of money. That's almost always a symptom of the problem, and not a cause.
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Healthcare is not a market commodity. We've had this argument. It's essential for a healthy, productive society to be, uh, healthy and productive.
It's not that simple though. Trying to hide a full gamut of things from flu shots, to trauma medicine, to cancer treatments, to contraceptives, to anti-depressants under one big umbrella called "health care" is foolish at best. Some of those things we should treat as a human needs issue, others as a commodity. Trying to treat them all the same is a bad idea.
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The ACA is far from perfect, but government oversight of health care distribution is essential.
The ACA goes far far far beyond oversight.
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FINALLY, we take that first baby step towards these provisions and the GOP, STILL reeling from non-white guy, community organizer becoming their president refuses to think or act outside of their vindictive butt-hurt ego.
Will you please stop with the freaking racist innuendo? The GOP opposed the same thing when the very white Clintons proposed it back in the 90s. Stop playing the damn race card as a means of defending Obama's agenda. This also gets really freaking tiresome. Can we please just discuss an issue on the merits of the damn issue itself? Just once? What the hell is it with you guys and always countering the conservative position with distractions? "Oh yeah! Well, you're a racist" isn't actually a valid argument.
Edited, Jul 23rd 2014 1:32pm by gbaji