A you trying to make me a feminist?Follow

And are you seriously arguing that radical feminists are abusing men?

Edit, re: your edit.

I don't feel any particular need to be distanced from radical feminists on the gamergate issue. Feminism is largely unified on what the problem is. I think I've already asked for anyone to link cases of abuse committed in the name of feminists, but I've yet to see one. So if you're going to be arguing in hypotheticals, I think Samantha Bee would be the better person to continue this discussion.

Now, if we were talking about trans rights, then yeah - I have some serious issues with radical feminists.

Edited, Oct 30th 2014 2:02pm by idiggory

What "academic dictionary" are you finding this in? "Misogyny" originates from Greek "misogynes" which literally means "woman-hater".



I don't believe we should dismiss the significance of proper usage of the word(s). Miscommunication is the root of many unnecessary arguments.

Edited, Oct 30th 2014 8:07pm by Mazra

Clearly none of this will go away until we all have new and engaging games to take up our time and attention.

So, who's playing what these days?

Is this like gbaji and his "ends out"?

I'm playing a game mod that adds more women to the medieval combat thingy.

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He probably is talking about something feminists came up with. So now we have competing definitions. Should we go with MALE greek definitiin or radfem definition. decisions...

Most academic works will either introduce the concept quickly themselves, or quickly shorthand it by citing another work that more explicitly spells it out. I haven't worked in any discipline with a standard resource for definition citations, so I can't comment on that. Whatever work is cited is most likely a longer piece about the concept of systemic misogyny itself.

Generally speaking, the audience is well-aware of the definitions as applied to that field, so it's usually more of a precaution than anything.

There IS a lot of room between ingrained prejudice and hatred, but the definition feminists use specifically ranges from one to the other, because they both reinforce the problems in question.

That's also something I imagine many feminists would consider a pro of the word "misogyny" for discourse, though I haven't read ANY academic works on the subject. When something is proposed misogynistic (either a system or a person), you have to actually critically deconstruct it to see HOW it's misogynistic.

I'd consider that really good for self-reflection.

For instance, many women are raised to be misogynistic in ways closer to "hatred," because we train women to aggressively compete with each other for male affection (no one finds it weird when the third woman hates the wife). But ingrained prejudice would be more like how actively women are trained to judge other woman on appearance.

It puts an extra impetus on self-reflection and critical thought. At least, I think it does.

20 pages and no real gbaji sightings....what is this world coming too....

Really? Because I see plenty of feminists disagreeing with her, many angry with her behavior DURING this situation, and many gaming feminists are equally angry with Kotaku+Quinn for how they've used Quinn (and her sexuality) to commodify feminism into something they can sell, and predominately to male audiences.

She's definitely held accountable for that. And I don't see feminists defending her conduct. But I also don't go on reddit unless I have a really good reason to, so maybe they are.

What I do see is people vehemently defending her right to not get rape threats, regardless of what she's said or done.

A second play through of Fall Out: New Vegas on the heels of my first time. Last time I went pretty standard "smart, well spoken light armor stealth sniper" type and fought for an independent New Vegas. This time I'm going low intelligence/charisma/perception, high strength/endurance/agility melee type and aligned myself with the Legion. Also, I took cannibalism. Nom, nom, nom...

Once I'm done with that, I need to dig into Alien: Isolation.

Gbaji doesn't play video games these days because they have plots. I'm not even kidding.

Edited, Oct 30th 2014 2:44pm by Jophiel

That was a very condescending response to me, Dig. Glad to know you still care.
Good luck with that. They said GG would go away when Destiny came out and look how that turned out.

That said, I'm currently playing Diablo 3. At some point in the nearish future, I need to play the Dark Souls 2 DLCs now that they're all out. And replay Dragon Age 1/2 before I get Inquisition.

If I could chop Deathclaws to death with two swings of a fire axe in real life, I'd be okay with those dump stats.