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#1 Sep 03 2014 at 7:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's so odd, isn't it, how many of the people exonerated for capital offenses when new evidence comes to light happen to be African American?

Of course, DNA isn't available in all cases, so although there have been hundreds so far, undoubtedly there are thousands of others that will never be corrected.

Sad as that is, the scary thing to me is that the person who probably killed the little girl in NC back then, went on to kill someone else before he was caught. Wrongful convictions don't just victimize the convicted.

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#2 Sep 03 2014 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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According to the article:
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That man is already serving a life sentence for a similar rape and murder that happened less than a month later.
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#3 Sep 03 2014 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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According to that article they lied to the investigators and some of their DNA was at the scene. NC could have investigated deeper, but I really can't condemn them over that. However, same article, there was a similar attack a month after so I would condemn them over not reopening the case soon after.
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#4 Sep 03 2014 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
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Samira wrote:
It's so odd, isn't it, how many of the people exonerated for capital offenses when new evidence comes to light happen to be African American?


It's slightly higher than the incarceration rate (47% of exonerated prisoners versus 39% of incarcerations). Without digging into greater detail, I wouldn't necessarily conclude that this is odd at all. The bigger issue is how a group that makes up ~13% of the population makes up 39% of those incarcerated. If anything, the relatively closeness of the stats tells us that false convictions can't be the sole (or even primary) reason for that massive difference.

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Sad as that is, the scary thing to me is that the person who probably killed the little girl in NC back then, went on to kill someone else before he was caught. Wrongful convictions don't just victimize the convicted.


Yup. Our criminal justice system isn't perfect. But when you compare the rate of exoneration to total incarcerations, we don't do that bad a job. You also have to balance the potential of allowing a guilty person to get away with it and commit more crimes against the potential of arresting and/or convicting the wrong guy and allowing the real criminal to commit more crimes. Can't just look at one side of things. Yes. Heartless, I know. But the real world rarely wraps up cases in a neat and tidy bow like the crime dramas might have you think. Judgement calls are made all the time. We just usually only hear about when they are wrong.
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According to that article they lied to the investigators and some of their DNA was at the scene. NC could have investigated deeper, but I really can't condemn them over that. However, same article, there was a similar attack a month after so I would condemn them over not reopening the case soon after.


What we've learned here is that if you want to get away with murder, make sure to steal a cigarette butt from some guy's trash can and leave it at the scene next to the murder weapon. Too much?
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It's slightly higher than the incarceration rate (47% of exonerated prisoners versus 39% of incarcerations). Without digging into greater detail, I wouldn't necessarily conclude that this is odd at all. The bigger issue is how a group that makes up ~13% of the population makes up 39% of those incarcerated. If anything, the relatively closeness of the stats tells us that false convictions can't be the sole (or even primary) reason for that massive difference.


It's cause they're black, right?

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gbaji wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
According to that article they lied to the investigators and some of their DNA was at the scene. NC could have investigated deeper, but I really can't condemn them over that. However, same article, there was a similar attack a month after so I would condemn them over not reopening the case soon after.


What we've learned here is that if you want to get away with murder, make sure to steal a cigarette **** from some guy's trash can and leave it at the scene next to the murder weapon. Too much?
What I learned today is that if gbaji is successfully framed for rape and/or murder he'll just take in stride and never complain because society will be safer with him locked up.
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#8 Sep 04 2014 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Today I learned you guys would make horrible criminals.
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#9 Sep 04 2014 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Today I learned you guys would make horrible criminals.

My six year old may have inadvertently committed petty theft; get back to me in the next 10-12 years and we'll see how things are going.
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