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#1 Nov 12 2014 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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I keep seeing this same article popping up all over the place in slightly different formats on nearly every news sight imaginable.

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Death is a depressingly inevitable consequence of life, but now scientists believe they may have found some light at the end of the tunnel.
The largest ever medical study into near-death and out-of-body experiences has discovered that some awareness may continue even after the brain has shut down completely.
It is a controversial subject which has, until recently, been treated with widespread scepticism.
But scientists at the University of Southampton have spent four years examining more than 2,000 people who suffered cardiac arrests at 15 hospitals in the UK, US and Austria.
And they found that nearly 40 per cent of people who survived described some kind of ‘awareness’ during the time when they were clinically dead before their hearts were restarted.


This is nothing new. There have been stories about near death experiences since forever, but apparently this study, which they claim to be "the super most biggest study ever!!!" makes things different.

The comments are exactly what you might expect: A few serendipitous evangelicals screaming "SEE I TOLD YOU" followed by an overwhelming collective response of "NUH UH!" from every fat sweaty teenage boy on the internet who has it all figured out.

Before we start seeing more of the same here, I want to point out a couple of things. This study in no way proves or has anything to do with the existence of "God", spirits, the boogeyman or Casper the Friendly Ghost. Don't be that guy. All it's saying is there may be some form of consciousness where consciousness should otherwise be impossible under the idea that it is somehow the manifestation of our actual physical brain.

As someone who has personally done a great deal of research into lucid dreaming and alleged OBE, I personally believe this is possible because our consciousness is not physically stored by our brains and bodies, but received by it. The idea that death is exactly the same as reverting to the state one is in before they are born (an idea that consists of about half of all comments on these articles) is erroneous. There is something else that is born and grows alongside your physical brain and body as it grows-- call it your spirit, soul or whatever, but don't assume it has anything to do with religion and the whole rabbit hole of things that come with it. Ultimately it is your consciousness, and even if it really is entirely inside your head, it's still something quite large and very tangible, and very powerful.

Edited, Nov 12th 2014 10:37pm by Kuwoobie
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#2 Nov 12 2014 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like they showed that the brain doesn't shut down 100% twenty~thirty seconds after the heart stops than anything resembling life after death.
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#3 Nov 12 2014 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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So 20-30secs of life after death?


What a bummer for the writer(s) of Fame.
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#4 Nov 12 2014 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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"I'm gonna live for half a minute" doesn't have the same ring to it does it?
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#5 Nov 12 2014 at 2:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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That was documented in the days of the guillotine. This isn't new.

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#6 Nov 12 2014 at 2:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like they showed that the brain doesn't shut down 100% twenty~thirty seconds after the heart stops than anything resembling life after death.
Yay, something else to look forward to in life.
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#7 Nov 12 2014 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Praying for the end of time?
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#8 Nov 12 2014 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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For 23 seconds, give or take.
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#9 Nov 12 2014 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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So you are fatally dismembered in a horrible air balloon incident and you get to consciously think about how horribly painful your death is for the next 30 seconds after you die. Why do we want to know this?
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Elinda wrote:
Praying for the end of time?

I really hope you were alluding to this song or I'm going to feel very, very, old. The line is at 7:14

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BonYogi wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Praying for the end of time?

I really hope you were alluding to this song or I'm going to feel very, very, old. The line is at 7:14

Of course she was. She's really old, too.
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Elinda wrote:
Praying for the end of time?

I really hope you were alluding to this song or I'm going to feel very, very, old. The line is at 7:14

Of course she was. She's really old, too.

Really old? I don't think the adverb is necessary.

I re-watched Rocky Horror Picture Show over Halloween. Meatloaf was on my mind.

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#13 Nov 13 2014 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
I re-watched Rocky Horror Picture Show over Halloween. Meatloaf was on my mind.
His singing or his being turned into meatloaf?
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#14 Nov 13 2014 at 11:46 AM Rating: Good
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Now that I think hard about it, my husband made meatloaf last week.

What's going on?

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I sometimes think it'd be nifty to open a restaurant and offer a meatloaf sandwich called the Robert Paulson, but then I think it's such an awesome idea that it's bound to have been done hundreds of times.
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I did a Google search for it and got this back:
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More about the Robert Paulson; it’s sandwich that substitutes bread for fluffy waffles. Between the waffles is chicken breast, ham, bacon, tomato, provolone cheese and spinach. You have your option of maple dipping sauce. Somehow, this sandwich just hits all the right notes of savory and sweet. Until recently, it was the only waffle sandwich offered until the Mad Hatter hit the menu, which has roast beef, caramelized onions and blue cheese. It also comes with syrup.


Erm.... close?

Also, shouldn't it be "substitutes fluffy waffles for bread"?

Edited, Nov 13th 2014 1:59pm by Jophiel
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Also, shouldn't it be "substitutes fluffy waffles for bread"?

I thought so, but then it would just be another waffle sandwich.

The sandwich sounds similar to the Monte Cristo, cept it uses french toast and is served with strawberry preserves.

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Another reason I won't open up a restaurant is because I don't have the creativity to make a sandwich like that.
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Another reason I won't open up a restaurant is because I don't have the creativity to make a sandwich like that.

I've discovered that any ordinary sandwich becomes a great sandwich if you just add goat cheese to it.
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Come on down to Elinda's Peanut Butter & Jelly & Goat Cheese Emporium today!
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#21 Nov 13 2014 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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I imagine the neon sign would be of a fainting goat falling over.
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Elinda wrote:
I re-watched Rocky Horror Picture Show over Halloween.

I have to admit, I bought Tim Curry's album just for this song. I can't remember another song from it, though. Still have it all these years later but no turntable.

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All it's saying is there may be some form of consciousness where consciousness should otherwise be impossible

Stop being fucking retarded. Wait, Nexa says that's an offensive term now. Let me try again. Stop being fucking neurologically developmentally crippled in a profound way.

Memory dislikes emptiness and fills in appropriately. Many things you "remember" never happened. Not new or interesting in any way.
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#24 Nov 14 2014 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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Memory dislikes emptiness and fills in appropriately. Many things you "remember" never happened.


Being the expert on neurological science that you are, could you perhaps explain that in a bit more detail? You know, because I'm retarded and stuff. I could read into it myself, but I seriously doubt I'd find anything in regards to how much memory hates emptiness and loves being filled with astonishingly accurate accounts of what happened while their brain was not working.

Edited, Nov 15th 2014 2:07am by Kuwoobie
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#25 Nov 14 2014 at 4:49 PM Rating: Good
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You're one of those people that believes deja vu is precognition, aren't you?
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#26 Nov 14 2014 at 4:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Like this, perhaps.

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“This is a pretty robust finding,” wrote psychiatrist Paul Fletcher of the University of Cambridge, who studies psychosis but was not involved in the study. “It appears that, when confronted by lack of sensory patterns in our environment, we have a natural tendency to superimpose our own patterns.”
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