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#1 Dec 11 2014 at 11:40 PM Rating: Good
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Weird Republicans have no issue passing a big spending bill when they call the shots...American Politics hypocrisy at its best.

Two interesting things to note that I saw on a quick examination.

Raising personal contributions to parties from 100K to 800K
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Reducing restrictions on derivative trading by banks and lending agencies.
- Literally the cause of the entire US and Global Recession in 2008.

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#2 Dec 12 2014 at 2:35 AM Rating: Good
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rdmcandie wrote:
Weird Republicans have no issue passing a big spending bill when they call the shots...American Politics hypocrisy at its best.

Two interesting things to note that I saw on a quick examination.

Raising personal contributions to parties from 100K to 800K




US elections have been little more than auctions for quite some time now. That sure isn't gonna help.
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#5 Dec 12 2014 at 3:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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rdmcandie wrote:
Weird Republicans have no issue passing a big spending bill when they call the shots...American Politics hypocrisy at its best.

Two interesting things to note that I saw on a quick examination.

Raising personal contributions to parties from 100K to 800K




US elections have been little more than auctions for quite some time now. That sure isn't gonna help.
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#6 Dec 12 2014 at 6:37 AM Rating: Good
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Reducing restrictions on derivative trading by banks and lending agencies.
- Literally the cause of the entire US and Global Recession in 2008.



It's not really reducing restrictions, it's allowing banks who trade in derivatives to maintain their FDIC backing. Still, imo the provision was one baby step forward that just turned into a giant step backwards.

I'm sure there's more to it than the likes of me can fathom, but seems like an Obama sell-out. Will we be seeing Barry the Banker running JP Morgan in 2016?

Apparently this is what 'compromise' looks like.

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#7 Dec 12 2014 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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rdmcandie wrote:
American Politics hypocrisy at its best.
Must be an awfully comfortable rock to be living under for the past entire history of existence.
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American Politics hypocrisy at its best.
Must be an awfully comfortable rock to be living under for the past entire history of existence.

Iknowright! Like the US is the only country run by less-then-perfect humanly humans.

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#9 Dec 12 2014 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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#12 Dec 12 2014 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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rdmcandie wrote:
Weird Republicans have no issue passing a big spending bill when they call the shots...American Politics hypocrisy at its best.


A "big spending bill" is another word for a budget, which we used to pass every year before Obama took office with his party in full control of the Congress (I'll leave it to the reader to speculate as to why that would make budgets harder to pass rather than easier). And while this isn't actually a full budget (only covers 9 months instead of an entire year), it's a huge step in the right direction relative to the stream of continuing resolutions that have been used to keep the money flowing without checks, while also creating artificial funding crises every 3-4 months which are then used as political sledgehammers. It's also an example of actual compromise. Where both sides had to give some stuff up. Which, again, is a vast improvement to the Dems basically saying "pass this, or shut the government down".


The far Right groups are just as pissed about it as the far Left. Which is probably a sign that it's a semi-decent bill. I haven't read it myself though, so I'm just going off of who doesn't like it so far. It's certainly not the GOP just doing the same thing they complained about the Dems doing for so long as you seem to be implying.
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#13 Dec 13 2014 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
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You haven't read it but you know what it isn't? Impressive.
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#14 Dec 13 2014 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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A "big spending bill" is another word for a budget, which we used to pass every year


Every year except 2000. Oh and 2001, and 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
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#15 Dec 15 2014 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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You haven't read it but you know what it isn't? Impressive.
He hits on most of the echo chamber talking points, too.
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#16 Dec 15 2014 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't read it myself though, so I'm just going off of who doesn't like it so far
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#17 Dec 15 2014 at 8:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not entirely on point, but somewhat related - I am getting some amusement out of this.

Particularly this part:

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Mr. Cruz ultimately failed to stop the spending bill, which will fund the Department of Homeland Security — the agency primarily responsible for carrying out the president’s immigration directive — through February.

By carving out more legislative time, Mr. Cruz inadvertently enabled the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada, to advance two dozen nominations, including several contentious ones that would otherwise have faced a more difficult confirmation process.


Cruz: COWER BRIEF MORTALS as I try my hand at obstructionist politics. How hard can it be, right?

Reid: Thanks, Teddy-boy. Needed that boost.

All other Republicans: Cruz, you idiot.
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Yeah, I read about that over the weekend. Cruz is saying that the Democrats would have pushed the nominees anyway but that would have been today at the earliest and the number of nominees that could have been advanced before the recess would have been much fewer.
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A "big spending bill" is another word for a budget, which we used to pass every year


Every year except 2000. Oh and 2001, and 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007


Eh? Just the first random hit on google, but, as usual, you appear to be dead wrong

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Our colleagues at PolitiFact Florida report that the House and the Senate had failed to pass a joint budget bill on four other occasions since 1983.

For fiscal year 2003, the Senate, under Democratic control in 2002, failed to pass a budget resolution of any kind. For fiscal years 1999, 2005 and 2007, the House and the Senate failed to reconcile their different bills and pass a compromise measure. In these latter three cases, the Republicans were in the majority in both chambers of Congress.


Congress does occasionally fail to pass a budget, but never for two years in a row. Until Obama took office, that is.
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#20 Dec 15 2014 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:

A "big spending bill" is another word for a budget, which we used to pass every year


Every year except 2000. Oh and 2001, and 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007


Eh? Just the first random hit on google, but, as usual, you appear to be dead wrong

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Our colleagues at PolitiFact Florida report that the House and the Senate had failed to pass a joint budget bill on four other occasions since 1983.

For fiscal year 2003, the Senate, under Democratic control in 2002, failed to pass a budget resolution of any kind. For fiscal years 1999, 2005 and 2007, the House and the Senate failed to reconcile their different bills and pass a compromise measure. In these latter three cases, the Republicans were in the majority in both chambers of Congress.


Congress does occasionally fail to pass a budget, but never for two years in a row. Until Obama took office, that is.

you both caught a fish '-------------' this big. Smiley: rolleyes

According to the congressional budget office, congress has failed to complete action on a budget in 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013.

Seems to me that the president is pretty blameless. Not only does the lions share of the budgeting work belong to congress, but if one really wants to bite into the question of why there hasn't been one since 2010, you might ask yourself what changed in 2010 to precipitate the inability to budgetize. Gee what could it have been???
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But... but... if the House Republicans let a reconciliation committee start and they weren't done fast enough, House Democrats could offer toothless nonbinding statements!

You'll recall that was Gbaji's defense for last year's budget failure.
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Eh? Just the first random hit on Google, but, as usual, you appear to be dead wrong

As usual, I'm not. As usual, you don't know what the fuck a word means; in this case "budget". While I appreciate your wild guessing and linking a news article, I'll sit here comfortable in my ability to read and not particularly interested in your inability to do so.

I mean unless you want to wager some cash or something, then I'll probably pay attention.

According to the congressional budget office, congress has failed to complete action on a budget

Taking action on a budget isn't passing a budget.
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#23 Dec 15 2014 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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I mean unless you want to wager some cash or something, then I'll probably pay attention.


Yeah, you'll probably get your payout about the same time Jophiel gets his.
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#24 Dec 16 2014 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Eh? Just the first random hit on Google, but, as usual, you appear to be dead wrong

As usual, I'm not. As usual, you don't know what the fuck a word means; in this case "budget". While I appreciate your wild guessing and linking a news article, I'll sit here comfortable in my ability to read and not particularly interested in your inability to do so.

I mean unless you want to wager some cash or something, then I'll probably pay attention.

According to the congressional budget office, congress has failed to complete action on a budget

Taking action on a budget isn't passing a budget.

'complete' is the operative word.
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#25 Dec 16 2014 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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Seems to me that the president is pretty blameless.
Blaming people for things that aren't their responsibility is a cornerstone of zam conservative behavior.
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It seems the 'Cromnibus' bill effectively ended the federal ban on medical marijuana.

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“Tucked deep inside the 1,603-page federal spending measure is a provision that effectively ends the federal government’s prohibition on medical marijuana and signals a major shift in drug policy,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

“The bill’s passage over the weekend marks the first time Congress has approved nationally significant legislation backed by legalization advocates. It brings almost to a close two decades of tension between the states and Washington over medical use of marijuana.”

“Under the provision, states where medical pot is legal would no longer need to worry about federal drug agents raiding retail operations. Agents would be prohibited from doing so.”
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