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Yes.

So, having your event disrupted is grounds for killing someone? Interesting.

That you can't see yourself doing this very thing is pretty funny

ALSO: Given that I don't watch anything resembling television news please clue me in to which talking points I'm "parroting" because I don't have a clue.



gbaji: Defending racists since 2010 (at least).

Feel free to let me know if none of this sentiment is to be taken seriously.

So, would you kill literally everyone then? Because unless you hit the only child lottery, that person's cousins have cousins who have cousins. If I were interpreting that comment entirely literally, you would have to kill absolutely everyone on earth due to distant relation, but even extending two units of relation away either horizontally or vertically (cousin and grandparent/grandchild) is probably sufficient to create an arbitrarily large chain.

Escalation is playing the cheat option in an iterated prisoners' dilemma, and while there is a place to use that move, it should be used judiciously. I read "I'd cut down someone's whole family tree if they hurt mine." as you would disproportionately respond to a harm to your own family. That isn't as much of a deterrent as it may seem. There are situations where you have a double defender paradox, where person A slights person B unintentionally, so B responds to the slight defensive, which A perceives as a initiating slight and so A responds defensively, with both people thinking they are justified in retaliation. It also entourages anyone who would engage in a feud with you to skip to the end game as quickly as possible. It's a strategy that loses to itself hard, and leads to legitimate potential scenarios "Would you kill your daughter to kill the man who killed your wife?".

'Squatch was responding to Gbaji, Lolgaxe was responding to 'Squatch's response, I was responding to that. All three of our responses were in regards to Gbaji's statement. Context, my child.

Anyway, we've moved on from white nationalism in right wing politics to how many people Lolgaxe would literally murder in his quest for blood vengeance.

Probably not, but I might add people that ask nonsense questions along the way. Just for practice.

That's literally not a real problem. I don't need to concern myself with everyone in the whole wide world since very few people would even know about it, few would care, even less would entertain the idea of retaliating, fewer would have the means, and even fewer the temperament to go through with it. After all, it's not like you're doing anything for Li Ao.

So my range would be branches that would be considered incestuous with each other with the central target. If, and that's a huge if, anyone would be part of the small circle of people that would and could retaliate they would be there. That's not to say it's impossible someone will come looking, but we're in a scorched Earth scenario, meaning I've got nothing to lose. Why wouldn't I start at the end game? That's just stupid anime "I'm hiding my real power level's final form" fluff. None of my revenge plans start with keying a car. Not interested in their being scared before they die, their knowing the why, or even knowing it was me.I'm disappointed.

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 10:58am by lolgaxe

Maybe because those people owned slaves, and eventually the aggression will be directed against anyone who participated in the practice?

I don't know, I hate trying to assign logic to that man's reasoning. Still am pretty dumbfounded by his response to this weekends' ordeals. Saw a lot more outrage at the whole coming from members of the alt-right community than from the president over the whole running over people thing, and he's pretty much struggled for coherent response since.

So probably par for the course I guess. Not that he ever go golfing or anything...

They're pretty much the only demographic he has left in his corner, and if the man does anything it's pander for his celebrity status.

"It's great that she's dead because she was fat and a waste of resources since she was childless thus failing at her most basic function as a woman and most people probably rejoice her dying instead of being a parasite for the next 40 years"?

That sort of outrage?

I can safely say that I haven't seen any outrage from those groups. I haven't even seen any outrage from "moderate" Trump supporters I know. Reactions have ranged from silence to the "well, both sides..." dithering. But I'm also willing to note that I haven't tried to take a wide survey of opinions beyond what I bump into on the street, as it were.

If there's a population of Infowars fans who were shocked and outraged by the act of terrorism we saw over the weekend then good for them. Maybe they should question the company they're keeping.

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 11:04am by Jophiel

A couple of samplings from reddit, for what it's worth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6ts1yz/same_s hit_different_masks/ Spoiler(space added to get the link to show up here. Remove to follow it, blah blah, etc...

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6tc2r1/we_condemn_the_kkk_white_supremacists_nazis_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6tpow9/i_am_not_altright_i_am_not_a_nazi_i_am_not_a/

And that's enough time spent on that forum for a while...

I wholeheartedly agree.

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 10:13am by someproteinguy

Double post editing opportunity: And, of course, the thread is full of people saying "Man, those other guys are so wrong to not accept that there's so much violence on all sides..." instead of anyone just saying "The Alt-Right terrorist who killed that woman was horrible and we fully condemn the act and the rhetoric of the Alt-Right that surrounds that act. Full stop, the end."

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 12:13pm by Jophiel

I'm simply arguing these two quotes aren't equivalent points of view:



First and foremost one is defending violence and the other is not. The people that are defending the KKK/Neo-**** community are a small minority. It's like Russia saying the West is supporting neo-***** in Ukraine because the party was a small part of the coalition government that took over. It's unfair to lump a whole group in with a radical minority.

Well it is a forum for supporters of the President. Probably should have tempered your expectations first I guess.

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 10:42am by someproteinguy

And honestly I'm probably the wrong person to be trying to convince you anyway. Trying to defend viewpoints that aren't my own isn't really my strong point, and I'm probably mostly just building strawmen anyway. SpoilerThough who doesn't like building things just to burn them down? There is a minority of Trump supporters that are racist ********, whether that's 5% or 30%, I'm not qualified to say.

Still do feel like I saw more outrage at the attack from the Trump base than the president himself, but that may just be my impression.

Edited, Aug 16th 2017 11:13am by someproteinguy