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#4652 Feb 11 2018 at 6:17 PM Rating: Excellent
Well, that looks awesome.
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#4653 Feb 11 2018 at 8:35 PM Rating: Good
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Another day older, and a weekend's reprieve.
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#4654 Feb 12 2018 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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I got dragged around a Toys-R-Us for hours. Then I got back at my daughter by dragging her around a Best Buy.
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#4655 Feb 12 2018 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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In stupid, overreacting, social media PC news:

In a crappy movie about Peter Rabbit full of slapstick comedy and people being electrocuted, apparently using food allergies to attack a person is crossing the line and the movie needs to be boycotted and/or edited to remove the scene. Smiley: rolleyes

Still not going to watch the movie, but not because of a misuse of berries to attack a person who is allergic.
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#4656 Feb 12 2018 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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#4657 Feb 12 2018 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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Imagine if those parents discover Looney Tunes.
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#4658 Feb 12 2018 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Those parents should have been raised on Looney Tunes, like any god fearing 'Merican!



Edited, Feb 12th 2018 1:07pm by stupidmonkey
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#4659 Feb 13 2018 at 8:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Though I guess certain politicos did spend too much time watching Speedy Gonzalez.
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#4660 Feb 13 2018 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Remember when the raptors learned how to open doors and everyone was scared?

Boston Dynamics remembers.

Edited, Feb 13th 2018 8:29am by someproteinguy
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#4661 Feb 13 2018 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
The Robopacalypse is nigh.
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#4662 Feb 13 2018 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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#4663 Feb 13 2018 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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That tax cuts didn't come out of thin air, we received increased deficits due to them.


Only if there is no increase in economic activity (ie: taxable activity) along the way. While it's technically "fair" to do an 'everything else staying the same' calculation of deficits, and this is how we do this, this method always results in downplaying the positive tax effects of economic growth, while also downplaying the negative effects of economic loss over time. So tax increases seem to be more deficit friendly because we assume the same economic activity after the tax increases as before. But economic activity decreases as a result, meaning we get less deficit reduction than the straight math would predict. Similarly, tax cuts appear on paper to have direct corresponding increases in deficits, but we find that over time, they don't, specifically because people tend to take those extra dollars they have as a result of the lower tax rates and either spend them (which results in increased profits and thus taxable revenue by vendors), or invest them (which increases taxes by the businesses or whatnot that grow as a result).

This is not a "take money from peter to pay paul" kind of scenario. If the tax base itself expands (and every indicator shows that it is already), the effect on total deficit will be minimal if there is any at all.

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Yes, the box of donuts got 25% cheaper, but they cut the package down from 12 to 8. The GOP bought us a gift with our own credit charge and expects us to pay the accruing interest.


Again, that's not really the way this works. If the entire system is zero sum? Sure. But it's not. We're already seeing gdp growth rates that are somewhere between double and triple what we saw during Obama's administration. Whether that rate is maintained or not is a matter of speculation, but the fact is that GDP growth means large tax base, which means you can generate similar amounts of revenue for the government even with lower tax rates across the board.

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As much as conservatives like to lambaste "Well, why not make minimum wage $1 MILLION!, then everyone will be rich," that is also a problem here. Without considering utility changes, the distribution of tax cuts matters. If my income inflates while everyone else's inflates more, then I have lost purchasing power.


Again, that's not how it works. Purchasing power is your earnings relative to the cost of goods you purchase. If the only growth was inflation related, you'd have a point. But if the growth is due to more people actually working (which appears to be the case), and more businesses opening up shop in the US (which appears to be the case), and more businesses headquartering out of the US rather than a foreign country (which also appears to be the case), then the effect on cost of goods does not change in direct relation to that growth. Which means you get the increased tax base, while at a decreased tax rate, and everyone benefits.

It's quite possible to have a scenario where someone else benefits more than you do, but you're still better off than you were before. It's not always true that someone has to lose for someone else to gain. You're assuming that purchasing power will decrease in direct relation to the increase in take home pay, but there's no data to support that claim.
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#4664 Feb 13 2018 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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OMG GUIZ THERE MIGHT BE A SHUTDOWN TONIGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW AND WE DISCUSS THIS THANK YOU


SEE? Was that so hard?
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#4665 Feb 13 2018 at 8:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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#4666 Feb 14 2018 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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Almost like it was nonsense.
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#4667 Feb 14 2018 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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The whole dreamers thing didn't really seem like that great of a hill to die on anyway.
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#4668 Feb 14 2018 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. – A father on the city’s south side accused his wife of feeding their child bleach to help cure her autism, according to a recent police report.

The report says the mother was putting drops of hydrochloric acid and water purifying solution (which contains chlorine) in her child’s drink. The man says his wife told him she read about the mixture online in a Facebook group. The mother reportedly identified the mixture as the "miracle mineral solution.”

According to IMPD, the Department of Child Services is currently investigating the case and has removed the child from the home.

The miracle mineral solution claims to be a cure-all for anything ranging from cancer to hepatitis, and even aids. However, health officials, including the FDA, have warned the product is little more than bleach.

Officials at the Applied Behavioral Center for Autism say it’s common for parents to search for home remedies to cure autism.

“Taking things into their own hands is something that many parents have done out of desperation, out of hope,” president and founder Sherry Quinn said.

Behavioral Center Clinical Director Kelly Goudreau added that it’s natural for parents to want to find a cure for their child’s autism and it’s common for them to look towards “home remedies.” However, she adds that it’s important to remember that there is no “cure” for autism, and that any treatment that is administered should be one that is backed by research and scientific evidence.

“It’s a diagnosis that’s going to stay with them. The goal is how can we make them more independent, how can we make them the most successful they can be with that diagnosis,” she said.
Jury still out on which one is the autistic one.
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#4669 Feb 14 2018 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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#4670 Feb 15 2018 at 9:51 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Only if there is no increase in economic activity (ie: taxable activity) along the way.


The CBO doesn't agree with the generous growth predictions of those pushing the reform. Economists think it will increase the U.S. debt as a percentage of GDP.

The GOP is sold this under pollyanna growth predictions, and when those growth predictions fail, they will switch to a rhetoric of "starve the beast" claiming they intended the debt to balloon to force spending cuts. All of this is contrary to the plain jane interpretation of conservative fiscal policy. This is literally liberal (small "l") economics.

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We're already seeing gdp growth rates that are somewhere between double and triple what we saw during Obama's administration.


No we are not.

https://imgur.com/a/qrnpP

That is my quick and dirty graph of data for Real quarterly GDP as reported by the BEA. Blue represents quarterly GDP rates and red represents the average of the last 4 quarters. Source and below is the data table I used for reference, with the last 4 quarters average being my own calculation not included in the original data set (to better reflect long term trends).

period	Real GDP	REAL GDP (AVG 4Q) 
2008Q1	-2.7	 
2008Q2	2	 
2008Q3	-1.9	 
2008Q4	-8.2	-2.7 
2009Q1	-5.4	-3.375 
2009Q2	-0.5	-4 
2009Q3	1.3	-3.2 
2009Q4	3.9	-0.175 
2010Q1	1.7	1.6 
2010Q2	3.9	2.7 
2010Q3	2.7	3.05 
2010Q4	2.5	2.7 
2011Q1	-1.5	1.9 
2011Q2	2.9	1.65 
2011Q3	0.8	1.175 
2011Q4	4.6	1.7 
2012Q1	2.7	2.75 
2012Q2	1.9	2.5 
2012Q3	0.5	2.425 
2012Q4	0.1	1.3 
2013Q1	2.8	1.325 
2013Q2	0.8	1.05 
2013Q3	3.1	1.7 
2013Q4	4	2.675 
2014Q1	-0.9	1.75 
2014Q2	4.6	2.7 
2014Q3	5.2	3.225 
2014Q4	2	2.725 
2015Q1	3.2	3.75 
2015Q2	2.7	3.275 
2015Q3	1.6	2.375 
2015Q4	0.5	2 
2016Q1	0.6	1.35 
2016Q2	2.2	1.225 
2016Q3	2.8	1.525 
2016Q4	1.8	1.85 
2017Q1	1.2	2 
2017Q2	3.1	2.225 
2017Q3	3.2	2.325

#4671 Feb 15 2018 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wait, wait, wait!! WAIT!

Are you trying to use facts to argue with gbaji?

Smiley: lol Oh, man, that's precious!
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#4672 Feb 15 2018 at 12:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd imagine the data is biased and doesn't fit with personal observations.

Speaking of personal observations, there's "a dress" in the Trump thing now too. So we may get to relive some more of the Clinton years, complete with matching unwanted visuals. Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, Feb 15th 2018 10:25am by someproteinguy
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#4673 Feb 15 2018 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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So we may get to relive some more of the Clinton years, complete with matching unwanted visuals. Smiley: rolleyes
Some poeple started singing it
Not knowing what it was ...
And they'll continue singing it
Forever just because ...
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#4674 Feb 15 2018 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Learning that the school shooter was a MAGA hat-wearin' right-wing nationalist advocating white supremacist, I suppose it's only a matter of time before we're told that there's fine people on both sides and Gbaji suggests that those students sort of deserved to be murdered since they didn't have the right paperwork on file with the village hall.
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#4675 Feb 15 2018 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'll be impressed if we get past the "failure by the FBI" narrative. Plenty of reason to want to discredit them right about now.

But maybe we'll get some better mental health care funding out of this as a silver lining.
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#4676 Feb 15 2018 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Survivor's story

Survivor's tweet at Tomi: https://twitter.com/car_nove/status/964122342464081921

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Tomi Lahren on Twitter wrote:
Can the Left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda? My goodness. This isn't about a gun it's about another lunatic. #FloridaShooting


Carly, from the first link on twitter in reply wrote:
I was hiding in a closet for 2 hours. It was about guns. You weren't there, you don't know how it felt. Guns give these disgusting people the ability to kill other human beings. This IS about guns and this is about all the people who had their life abruptly ended because of guns.


The thing is, we should let the families grieve, WHILE we start the conversation. I mean, I would be pretty fu[u][/u]cking embarrassed if they finished their grieving period, and we had nothing to show them. Not even the glimmer of an idea.

No bad ideas, but no ideas is bad, right?
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