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#2352 Feb 08 2017 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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Speaking of wildly inaccurate.
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But since it's undeclared,
I feel so much better about the Iraq war and you know, Vietnam,
Both of which were also undeclared.
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Precise, but wildly inaccurate.

In all honesty, the truth is just that Gbaji just isn't a very good writer. The fact that he thinks the solution to his walls of text being misunderstood is to throw another couple thousand words at the problem is testament to that. No one else* on the board (throughout its history) has the same issue with being "misinterpreted" the way he claims and, while there's probably comfort in believing yourself to be a unique martyr, at some point you need to look inward to find the problem.


*The only close example that comes to mind is Alma who also word-vomits pages of nonsense when a much tighter style would serve him better. Given Alma's liberal leanings, it's almost like there's a trend and it's not "They didn't like my politics".
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Speaking of wildly inaccurate.
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But since it's undeclared,
I feel so much better about the Iraq war and you know, Vietnam,
Both of which were also undeclared.
Declarations seem like kind of a waste of time anyway. I mean all you really have to do is show up and start shooting stuff and everyone figures the rest out pretty quickly.

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 8:59am by someproteinguy
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Interesting letter from the Chicago public schools.

Something, something, shots fired.

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 9:00am by someproteinguy
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someproteinguy wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Speaking of wildly inaccurate.
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gbaji wrote:
But since it's undeclared,
I feel so much better about the Iraq war and you know, Vietnam,
Both of which were also undeclared.
Declarations seem like kind of a waste of time anyway. I mean all you really have to do is show up and start shooting stuff and everyone figures the rest out pretty quickly.
Thanks, Obama. And Bush. And, I dunno, probably others.
#2357 Feb 08 2017 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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Something, something, shots fired.
Dick moves all around.
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#2358 Feb 08 2017 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
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What, a British person accusing someone of being an incorrigible apologist on an internet forum?

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Something, something, shots fired.
Dick moves all around.
I don't know much about Chicago public schools, but after reading the letter I came away with the impression it was the latest in a series of bad ideas, which I assumed were coming from multiple people on both sides of the controversy.

I mean, it's Chicago after all. Smiley: rolleyes

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 9:52am by someproteinguy
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Well yeah. Doofuses can't even get pizza right.
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Well yeah. Doofuses can't even get pizza right.
As long as they aren't putting pineapple on them.

******* pineapple loving degenerates. Smiley: motz


Edited, Feb 8th 2017 11:05am by Poldaran
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Well yeah. Doofuses can't even get pizza right.

Usually I make a remark about how the actual standard Chicago pizza is a thin crust, etc. But this past weekend we got a deep dish cheese & sausage and it was heavenly.

I don't have strong opinions about the CPS letter although I agree that the letter itself was probably inappropriate. But I live out in the 'burbs so the day to day politicking of the CPS/CTU is something I can generally keep as background noise. Anyway, that has more to do with the state budget fight than anything Trump related.

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 2:21pm by Jophiel
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#2364 Feb 08 2017 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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Pineapple can be good, with the proper combination of other ingredients. Not my favorite, but I wouldn't turn it away either.
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But this past weekend we got a deep dish cheese & sausage and it was heavenly.
I'm not saying it doesn't taste good. It does, at least the top portion. The three feet of dough under it is the problem. I'm saying it isn't pizza.

And on a less bored post farming and vaguely serious but equally bored note; Do you Chicagoons really list cheese as a topping? That's just weird. It's like saying "wheels" when talking about car features. "My car has wheels!" "No shit, it's a car." I mean, unless it's a specific type of cheese, like goat or something. But regular cheese?

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 3:42pm by lolgaxe
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Anyway, that has more to do with the state budget fight than anything Trump related.
Local politics adopting national political fights is somehow both frustrating and amusing at the same time.

Love those times where you're trying to get information on a local city counsel candidate and you're stuck reading all about how they want to have a vote affirming the cities support for abortion rights or something else pointless. You're sitting there thinking that's all well and good, but what I'm really interested in is whether or not you're for or against extending the light rail line into our neighborhood, or rezoning the area by the park to allow for denser developments to move in.

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The three feet of dough under it is the problem.

I don't know where you get your deep dish pizza from, but stop going there 'cause someone is ripping you off. You should have several inches of cheese 'n toppings.
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Do you Chicagoons really list cheese as a topping?

Not really. But "sausage" by its own sounds less melodious. I hear it both ways but no one would specify "cheese" when ordering a pizza or be confused by "sausage".

Now that you mention it, it's really only "cheese & sausage". No one says "cheese & pepperoni" or "cheese & mushrooms". Huh. Don't ask me how language works.
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someproteinguy wrote:
Interesting letter from the Chicago public schools.

Something, something, shots fired.
Aren't Chicago schools just shooting ranges with blackboards, anyway?
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Pineapple can be good, with the proper combination of other ingredients.
Pulverized and mixed with rum?
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someproteinguy wrote:
Interesting letter from the Chicago public schools.

Something, something, shots fired.
Aren't Chicago schools just shooting ranges with blackboards, anyway?
From what I can tell from the letter, only if they get their extra funding. If not then they're just shooting ranges without blackboards. Can't imagine the parents would want that.

Also because mathy/science stuff, how Trump's marketing people were much better than Hillary's, and how that allegedly helped out a lot.
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lolgaxe wrote:
Well yeah. Doofuses can't even get pizza right.


The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Well yeah. Doofuses can't even get pizza right.
As long as they aren't putting pineapple on them.

******* pineapple loving degenerates. Smiley: motz


Edited, Feb 8th 2017 11:05am by Poldaran


... .... ..... The **** is wrong with pineapple on pizza? With canadian bacon it is just close to a perfect combination of flavors. Anchovies, on the other hand...
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someproteinguy wrote:
Interesting letter from the Chicago public schools.

Something, something, shots fired.

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 9:00am by someproteinguy

Think of all the money they could have saved by not printing 381,000 letters.
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Speaking of wildly inaccurate.
Kuwoobie wrote:
gbaji wrote:
But since it's undeclared,
I feel so much better about the Iraq war and you know, Vietnam,
Both of which were also undeclared.
Declarations seem like kind of a waste of time anyway. I mean all you really have to do is show up and start shooting stuff and everyone figures the rest out pretty quickly.
Thanks, Obama. And Bush. And, I dunno, probably others.



Eisenhower through Nixon, basically.
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Think of all the money they could have saved by not printing 381,000 letters.

I'd be surprised if it was over a penny a sheet. So, at most, a bit under four grand in the fight for $215 million.

Gotta spend money to make money.

Edited, Feb 8th 2017 11:31pm by Jophiel
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#2375 Feb 09 2017 at 12:56 AM Rating: Good
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Friar Bijou wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Pineapple can be good, with the proper combination of other ingredients.
Pulverized and mixed with rum?
Now THAT is a great use for pineapple.

angrymnk wrote:
... .... ..... The **** is wrong with pineapple on pizza? With canadian bacon it is just close to a perfect combination of flavors. Anchovies, on the other hand...
Pineapple and ham are a great combo when not on a pizza.
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#2376 Feb 09 2017 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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Gotta spend money to make money.
If you'd just paypal me the money of US$10,000 to buy ingredients I'll most assuredly send you US$10,000,000 worth of pizza. If it will be possible for you to assist us, we would be most grateful.

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I got a spam the other day telling me I had to reply so I could get my $3.7mil from Western Union -- which would be loaded onto an ATM card. And I could withdraw up to $4,000 a day. So in two and a half years, I could have my money.
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Jophiel wrote:
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Think of all the money they could have saved by not printing 381,000 letters.

I'd be surprised if it was over a penny a sheet. So, at most, a bit under four grand in the fight for $215 million.

Gotta spend money to make money.
Or you know, send it via e-mail.

Yes, yes, I know, all the poor people without internet, computers, etc. But do you think someone too poor to own a computer, or even a cellphone, is really relevant in a fight for $215 million? Not likely. Smiley: disappointed
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That's like the "IRS" scam where they tell you to pay your back taxes in iTunes gift cards. The scariest thing is that anyone falls for that.
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But do you think someone too poor to own a computer, or even a cellphone, is really relevant in a fight for $215 million? Not likely. Smiley: disappointed

You're probably more likely to read a letter your kid brings home from school than an email. Stuff on paper naturally seems more important.
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That's like the "IRS" scam where they tell you to pay your back taxes in iTunes gift cards. The scariest thing is that anyone falls for that.

"Finally our federal government can complete its Wilson Phillips collection!"
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But do you think someone too poor to own a computer, or even a cellphone, is really relevant in a fight for $215 million? Not likely. Smiley: disappointed

You're probably more likely to read a letter your kid brings home from school than an email. Stuff on paper naturally seems more important.
I dunno. E-mail goes to my inbox where I can actually see it right away. If it's e-mail from the school it's usually something important. A paper the teacher gives the little spawnlings tends to get stuffed in the backpack alongside random schoolwork and whatnot, only appearing when we go to clean thing out at some point along with an "oh yeah, the teacher said I was supposed to show that to you." Smiley: rolleyes
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Ah. I actually look in my kid's backpack daily. 99% of email from my kids' schools is junk -- district newsletters and lunch schedules and stuff.

Anyway, the cost of the letters was pretty minimal and likely allocated into a general 'parent communications' budget so it's not as though anyone was saying "Should we print these letters or buy two thousand pencils?".

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Anyway, the cost of the letters was pretty minimal and likely allocated into a general 'parent communications' budget so it's not as though anyone was saying "Should we print these letters or buy two thousand pencils?".
This is why Trump won. Smiley: oyvey
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Like schools buy pencils. Smiley: rolleyes
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The three feet of dough under it is the problem.

I don't know where you get your deep dish pizza from, but stop going there 'cause someone is ripping you off. You should have several inches of cheese 'n toppings.
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Do they use fresh tomatoes to make their sauce? I miss my family trips to Chicago and going to Pizzeria Uno or Duo, also the getting hot dogs from the stand near my cousin. My parents dated every Friday night at Pizzeria Uno and loved the martinis and the fact that they grew their own tomatoes back then. I still will top my hot dogs with chopped cucumber, tomatoes and onions instead of mustard and catsup.

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This is why Trump won. Smiley: oyvey

School bulletins and racism! Smiley: thumbsup
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This is why Trump won. Smiley: oyvey

School bulletins and racism! Smiley: thumbsup
Poorly targeted propaganda, not taking the little details seriously enough. I posted a whole article on it just yesterday... Smiley: glare

Should have sent the letter only to students who's parents publicly identified as democrats, who were known to prefer paper to electronic media, and who had been liking or posting negative emotionally-charged responses to the election on facebook/twitter/etc, of course. Smiley: nod

Edited, Feb 9th 2017 12:33pm by someproteinguy
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Liberal and tree destroying? Ask me to find a straight unicorn, it'd be easier.
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You just have to go down the checklist:

Were the trees happy?

Did they live a long life?

Were they organically grown?

Was the harvest done in a sustainable fashion?

Were the next generation of trees planted with the proper mix of diversity?

Is the paper made by a local mill?

Is the mill owned by a woman or minority?

Did you incorporate at least 51% recycled material into the paper?

If it meets all those requirements then you're fine to use paper products still.
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This is why Trump won. Smiley: oyvey

School bulletins and racism! Smiley: thumbsup
Poorly targeted propaganda, not taking the little details seriously enough. I posted a whole article on it just yesterday... Smiley: glare

Should have sent the letter only to students who's parents publicly identified as democrats, who were known to prefer paper to electronic media, and who had been liking or posting negative emotionally-charged responses to the election on facebook/twitter/etc, of course. Smiley: nod

Edited, Feb 9th 2017 12:33pm by someproteinguy



Writing a paper letter to Twitter for publication just doesn't work as well.

Also: whose.
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Think of all the money they could have saved by not printing 381,000 letters.

I'd be surprised if it was over a penny a sheet. So, at most, a bit under four grand in the fight for $215 million.

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What I thought you said...
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Is the paper made by a local milf?
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Absolutely ridiculous that the 9th Circuit thinks you need evidence and has unanimously decided against reinstating the travel ban.
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I was more under the impression that they used Trump's campaign and post-election comments as exigent evidence that the true purpose of the ban was to target people based on religion, and therefore in violation of the 1st Amendment. I'm fine with this argument, but not with the fact that they agreed that Washington state had standing to sue.

Whatever, nobody cares about the technical details of law, only that their side "wins" the outcomes.
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I haven't read the arguments for standing but, seeing as how the ban directed affected state and locally funded airports, it seems that the state has direct interest in the order.
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I was more under the impression that they used Trump's campaign and post-election comments as exigent evidence that the true purpose of the ban was to target people based on religion, and therefore in violation of the 1st Amendment. I'm fine with this argument, but not with the fact that they agreed that Washington state had standing to sue.

Whatever, nobody cares about the technical details of law, only that their side "wins" the outcomes.
They didn't get to the point of addressing whether or not the law was targeting a religion at all, just completely punted on it. The temporary stay was upheld solely on the basis the states (Washington & Minnesota) were able to demonstrate that the ban was causing significant harm to them. Businesses were not able to have employees travel, universities were without faculty and students present, families were separated, and various other people with granted legal rights to be in the U.S. weren't allowed in any more. This is costing the states money (i.e. lost tax revenue), and residents of the states hardship. The state universities being harmed here being the most argued point (as far as this case goes) as for why the states have a right to bring legal action.

Part of this was made worse by the vagueness of the executive order. The confusion on whether it applied to people with valid visas, green cards, etc. In a sense because of some on the initial confusion and vague wording of the original document (so are people with valid visas allowed in or not? What about those with dual citizenship?) they were convinced the order could be used to limit access to these people, even if that wasn't necessarily how it was intended, so that argument held ground. Trump's words hurt here as well, of course. Adding to evidence that the government could choose the broader interpretation and exclude more people from the country.

On the other hand there wasn't convincing evidence produced by the government that people from the foreign countries in question posed a harm to the United States. Giving the benefit of the doubt here, if any evidence of this is out there it's likely wrapped up in classified documents, and probably difficult to quickly produce on the timescale that this order came out. Hence the reason that they're granting a temporary stay to the order, giving the government a chance to prepare its case, and not doing harm to the states in the meantime.

Anyway, here's the whole thing if you want to read. There are arguments laid out in there for why the States were allowed to bring the suit.

Edited, Feb 10th 2017 8:50am by someproteinguy
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Putin knows how to stir **** up. Good times.

Yes, I am temporarily skipping argument with Gbaji over da ban and rest of this forum over hawaian pizza ( heretics, you know who you are ).
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Simpler version of what I wrote here:

When the argument is "Trump has ignored precedent in ways that 'precedent' alone isn't enough to give him the benefit of the doubt", defending his actions with "But look! Precedent!" proves little more than how much you missed the point.

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On the other hand there wasn't convincing evidence produced by the government that people from the foreign countries in question posed a harm to the United States.
You'd think if it was really about safety that the country responsible for more than 90% of the terrorist related deaths in the US would have somehow found it's way on the ban list.
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