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The Libertarian Party debate was on TV yesterdayFollow

#102 Jun 20 2016 at 6:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stop, stop, he's already dead.
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#103 Jun 20 2016 at 8:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stop, stop, he's already dead.

FEC reports out today. Clinton started June with $42mil cash on hand, Trump started June with $1.3mil. Currently, Ben Carson's presidential campaign has more money than Trump's does ($1.7m)

RNC fundraising for May was $11mil, in May 2012 it was $34mil.
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#104 Jun 20 2016 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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Stop, stop, he's already dead.

FEC reports out today. Clinton started June with $42mil cash on hand, Trump started June with $1.3mil. Currently, Ben Carson's presidential campaign has more money than Trump's does ($1.7m)

RNC fundraising for May was $11mil, in May 2012 it was $34mil.


Well, the Kochs decided they wouldn't be paying for an anti-establishment GOP nominee. That's 60million down right there, plus whatever donations that move scared off. It's going to be selective downticket buys this season.
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If he does end up naming Christie as his running mate it can only confirm he was throwing the election to Clinton all along.
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I'm just shocked, shocked I say, that the guy who put his name on Trump Steaks, Trump University, and Trump Magazine is having such a difficult time with financing a Presidential run.
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Bet the donors could care less about his stance on things and are probably just all scared he'll rename it Trumpington D.C. if he gets elected.
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#108 Jun 22 2016 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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Bet the donors could care less about his stance on things and are probably just all scared he'll rename it Trumpington D.C. if he gets elected.
appending things cheapens the brand. Just Trump. Trump house. Trump capital district, etc. as an aside trump capital district would be a great name for a ****** bank and or payday loan center.
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#109 Jun 29 2016 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Gary Johnson polling at 8% in new Quinnipiac(sp?) poll. Trump apparently has higher support among Hispanics than Romney or McCain did.
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Compared to all the other polling this week, that Q poll has "outlier" written all over it. It's nothing anyone needs to argue since the beauty of aggregates is that you don't need to litigate each poll and just let it come out in the wash but I wouldn't put much stock into it.
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#111 Jun 29 2016 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
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Most definitely an outlier. Everything will come down to the debates.
#112 Jun 30 2016 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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It'd be weird if the Libertarian candidate wasn't the crazy one in a debate.
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#113 Jun 30 2016 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Compared to all the other polling this week, that Q poll has "outlier" written all over it. It's nothing anyone needs to argue since the beauty of aggregates is that you don't need to litigate each poll and just let it come out in the wash but I wouldn't put much stock into it.

Rasmussen has a dead heat when you account for their average 3.9% bias.Smiley: tongue
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You're going to defend an outlier by citing Rasmussen? The organization that had to fire Scott Rasmussen over how shitty their polls are? But, again, the beauty of aggregates is that you don't need to litigate each poll and just let it come out in the wash:

Here
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I'm not really defending anything. Something showed up in my feed and I shared it after spending five minutes seeing if it had a known bias. I found that it trends GOP 3.9% in that lazy search, so I commented.
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I don't even know which of these is the politics thread any longer but apparently Trump's VP choices are largely down to Gingrich and Christie.
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I don't even know which of these is the politics thread any longer but apparently Trump's VP choices are largely down to Gingrich and Christie.


Not that Crazy Christian lady who used to be a Witch? I was hoping she'd be his Palin.
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Jophiel wrote:
I don't even know which of these is the politics thread any longer but apparently Trump's VP choices are largely down to Gingrich and Christie.
I'm thinking Gingrich as a first choice, if he accepts. If he doesn't, then Christie by default.
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This is what I don't understand. People complain about a 2 party system, but overlook the Libertarian and Green parties. We are the problem.


This is what Douglas Adams diagnosed a good while ago.
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Jophiel wrote:
I don't even know which of these is the politics thread any longer but apparently Trump's VP choices are largely down to Gingrich and Christie.


Is that actually coming from the Trump campaign? Cause I've been hearing the same two names, but it's always coming from some political pundit speculating about what he or she thinks Trump's choices should be. I'm not sure how much weight I'm putting in most of the pundit class these days. It's half amusing and half really really weird. Watching people who usually have very simple choices to make kinda scrambling around when it comes to Trump because (and this is just my speculation) they honestly have no clue what he's going to do and don't have the historical data to actually make very good predictions. But they're paid to be on TV and act like they know stuff, so they do. And it comes out like a bunch of people garbling political blather and then spewing it at the TV.
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I don't even know which of these is the politics thread any longer but apparently Trump's VP choices are largely down to Gingrich and Christie.
Is that actually coming from the Trump campaign?

Supposedly from sources within the campaign. Who aren't going to go on the record because nothing is official yet. But they say both are being vetted and are the top of the short list. Governor Pence supposedly was sent vetting paperwork as well.

Out of the two, Gingrich makes more sense. Trump's said that he wants a VP who has political and legislative experience in getting stuff through Congress. And Christie (a) isn't popular with anyone and (b) can still be offered the AG position as a participation trophy.

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Gary Johnson polling at 8% in new Quinnipiac(sp?) poll. Trump apparently has higher support among Hispanics than Romney or McCain did.

Was just reading, according to that same poll Trump is getting 1% of the African-American vote. Which is worse than McCain (4%) or Romney (6%) did against Obama.

While amusing to consider, I'd suggest it's just one more reason to take their findings with a grain of salt.
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#123 Jul 01 2016 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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This is what Douglas Adams diagnosed a good while ago.
That people are liars? There's more people that'd prefer a single party system, so long as it leans in their particular direction.
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This is what Douglas Adams diagnosed a good while ago.
That people are liars? There's more people that'd prefer a single party system, so long as it leans in their particular direction.
This.


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Is that actually coming from the Trump campaign? Cause I've been hearing the same two names, but it's always coming from some political pundit speculating about what he or she thinks Trump's choices should be. I'm not sure how much weight I'm putting in most of the pundit class these days. It's half amusing and half really really weird. Watching people who usually have very simple choices to make kinda scrambling around when it comes to Trump because (and this is just my speculation) they honestly have no clue what he's going to do and don't have the historical data to actually make very good predictions. But they're paid to be on TV and act like they know stuff, so they do. And it comes out like a bunch of people garbling political blather and then spewing it at the TV.
See post 82.
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