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Eat my balls. I was only addressing what I clearly quoted. It's up to you to disprove it.

Did I claim a rate of racist white preachers? I must be posting in my sleep.

Bishop Dan Johnson. Are you going to argue a few scathing articles on liberal blog sites constitute mass protest?

In general though, it's only going to be the ones that receive a large negative reaction that get reported on. "Man says racist thing and people let it pass" is so common it's not news, it's just my facebook feed.

Edited, Dec 20th 2016 9:26pm by Allegory

You forgot to mention complete disavowal of him and his actions by the state Republican Party and its leaders. Oddly enough, it looks like he won anyway, so I'm not sure if that means that the voters in that state district are just that racist as well, or the tales of his racism are overblown (honestly never heard of him until you just mentioned him, so there's that).

To be fair, presenting a president in the form of a monkey in political satire is something that multiple past presidents have suffered (including Bush). So is it racist to present Obama in that way, or racist to *not* do so (ie: treating a black politician differently than you would a white one). Yeah yeah, I get the whole "OMG! Our history is different and special", but after nearly 8 years of being told that any disagreement with Obama means you're a racist, I'm almost willing to give the guy a pass on this one.

And the confederate flag? Really? That bit again?



Again though, It's not like Wright's teachings were even subtle on the issue of race. Comparing that to taking offense at a picture equating someone with a monkey (I thought Liberals were totally down with the whole theory of evolution, right?), isn't terribly valid.

It's hard to read and type at the same time.

(A) I've barely been paying attention to the thread but at least you got something to cry about. I only noticed your post because it was short and mentioned me several times.
(B) So much for reading the sources and making your own conclusions, etc instead of relying on what others tell you, eh?

Edited, Dec 22nd 2016 6:19pm by Jophiel

Cry more

I already called you both illiterate. I don't need to tell Bijou a second time just because you're butthurt.

Poorly written thought creates forum anger?

Though it looks like it, I never intended to say that what I was saying was previously said or believed by Jophiel. What I meant to say was that there are plenty of racist white ministers and that Jophiel was aware of that phenomenon.

I did, maybe you couldn't hear me over the sound of those goalposts moving?

Oddly, heh.


Not race, but still:


I'm not defending Wright. I'm giving you what you asked for.

I know you know we didn't come from monkeys, but having grown up in a conservative state and being raised on creationist biology, I feel a need to point it out for anyone who's reading just in case.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2016 9:11pm by Allegory

Thus removing any lingering incentive to post coherently ever again.

The only person moving the goalposts is you. Here are the two statements I originally made:



and



The case you presented doesn't rise remotely to the same level, nor is there a presidential candidate involved in said case. To be fair, I think I mentioned something later about someone at state legislature or higher, so you get some points for that, I suppose. I'm still not sure if the guy you're talking about is really a racist or is just making intentionally sarcastic comments that are being taken out of context in order to fill a narrative. You'd have to ask people who live in his district and voted for him (thought I already said this).



Was there a reason for posting this? Did you have a comment?



Yeah. Sounds more to me like he's cashing in on people being tired of being called racists for holding a political position while white. Seems reasonable to me. Again, I already asked the question as to what his motivation is. You're the one who brought him up, so maybe you have some additional information to share with the class?



And? I'm far less concerned with some hick playing off the very hick version of "this property protected by Smith and Wesson", than I am with someone who attends a church where racial bias is taught and preached and then goes on to use that same racial bias when making decisions once in office. This was kinda the whole point I was making here.



An equivalent on the Right? Which kinda requires some recognition of what Wright did and why it was wrong. Wright actively taught an ideology that believes that white people are to blame for all the problems in the country and that only by rejecting "whiteness" and all things associated with it, can black people prosper. There is nothing remotely close to that in the example you provided.

As I stated earlier, we could even have dismissed Wrights teachings as outliers and assume that Obama himself didn't subscribe to the racial bias nor would he apply such bias in his political life. Except, that he did exactly that. On several occasions, he made public statements supporting one side or another in a social issue, prior to the facts. And in each case, he picked the black "side" to support over the white, or police, or whatever else was involved. Every. Single. Time. This is precisely the kind of thing someone who's been indoctrinated into and accepted the idea that white people are to blame would do. So when there's a conflict between a black professor and a white cop? It's the white cops fault. He "acted stupidly". And if a black kid is shot by a white (latino) person, it's not the black kid's fault. Cause if he'd had a son he'd have looked like that black kid, right? And if a black man is shot by a cop, the cop must have been in the wrong. Because "hands up don't shoot".

See the pattern?

It's not just what Wright said. It's not just that Obama attended Wright's church. And, while bad, It's not even that Obama acted in a racially biased manner himself. It's the degree to which the media steadfastly avoided even mentioning it, while never hesitating to repeat even the most vague and questionable allegations of racial bias against anyone on the Right. I was pointing out the media bias on this. It's blatant. And it's not even surprising. How can we expect the media to condemn Obama for leaping to a racially biased assumption, when it's the same one those in the media are inclined to leap to themselves?

And frankly, many average people on the Left do the same thing. So it's hard for them to condemn the media (or liberal politicians) when they do it, because they do it themselves. Most liberals also immediately assumed that the white cop must have been in the wrong. Heck. We had ridiculously long threads about the Martin shooting, and I can say that one thing that stood out was just how strongly most posters just plain wanted Zimmerman to be in the wrong, and for Martin to have done nothing strange or violent at all. And even as the facts of the case came out, they stuck to trying to find some way to continue to support that narrative.

That's what I'm talking about. There are several layers of this.

Well, it kind of is if you expected any other reaction.

You didn't ask for that, and I never pretended to provide it. You're ignoring what your real request is, because again, you're moving goalposts.

He has posted "I [heart] being white", multiple photos of Obama being an ape, "Black turds matter", that Beyonce's superbowl dance in support of the black panthers should be replaced by a half time show by the KKK, wants to ban Islam, and, again, threatens to murder Muslims.

It's really easy to admit when someone is being racist. Al Sharpton has been racist. Joe Biden has been racist. It's really that easy.

No, I don't think anyone does. I'm not condemning this guy. You asked for an example and I gave it to you. Do not ask questions you do not want answered.