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#1177 Apr 11 2018 at 1:55 PM Rating: Good
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I thought that was Ted “Theodore” Cruz
There's no question on whether anyone liked the Zodiac Killer.

Edited, Apr 11th 2018 3:56pm by lolgaxe
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#1178 Apr 11 2018 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ryan sold out the traditional wing of the GOP by capitulating to anything under Trump so Ryan could get his precious tax cuts even if that meant making the GOP into the Party of Trump. Now that those are passed and the party is floundering, he's skipping town before their disastrous impact can be felt.
And the Trump folks seem to hate him, and blame him for the President not getting more of his agenda passed. Guy really seems to have burned all his bridges in a very short time.
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#1179 Apr 11 2018 at 3:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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#1180 Apr 11 2018 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
An amusing, off-the-record conversation between Erick Erikson and a GOP congressman:


Yeah. Let's put a ton of stock in an off the record report from an unnamed source.
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
An amusing, off-the-record conversation between Erick Erikson and a GOP congressman:
Yeah. Let's put a ton of stock in an off the record report from an unnamed source.

That would, in fact, be what makes it off the record. Congratulations, in a few more months you can leave remedial journalism school Smiley: laugh

I know, I know... it makes you feel better to think Erickson is lying. That's fine, I wouldn't expect different from you.
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#1182 Apr 11 2018 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
An amusing, off-the-record conversation between Erick Erikson and a GOP congressman:
Yeah. Let's put a ton of stock in an off the record report from an unnamed source.

That would, in fact, be what makes it off the record.


Which would, in fact, make it a non-source. Hence my point about not putting any stock in it.

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Congratulations, in a few more months you can leave remedial journalism school Smiley: laugh


I'm not the one putting weight in something that, by definition, we're not supposed to take as factual.

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I know, I know... it makes you feel better to think Erickson is lying. That's fine, I wouldn't expect different from you.


Given the sheer volume of complete BS reported over the last year or so by "unnamed sources", and given that this is yet another "just what liberals want to believe" claim, yeah, I'm going to go with "made it up completely". Why should I believe differently?
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
An amusing, off-the-record conversation between Erick Erikson and a GOP congressman:
Yeah. Let's put a ton of stock in an off the record report from an unnamed source.

That would, in fact, be what makes it off the record.


Which would, in fact, make it a non-source. Hence my point about not putting any stock in it.

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Congratulations, in a few more months you can leave remedial journalism school Smiley: laugh


I'm not the one putting weight in something that, by definition, we're not supposed to take as factual.

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I know, I know... it makes you feel better to think Erickson is lying. That's fine, I wouldn't expect different from you.


Given the sheer volume of complete BS reported over the last year or so by "unnamed sources", and given that this is yet another "just what liberals want to believe" claim, yeah, I'm going to go with "made it up completely". Why should I believe differently?


Oddly, I agree. That said, we are likely talking about different BS. Amusingly, those "unnamed sources" managed to confirm what <insert WH name representative> claimed to be an absolute and utter falsehood. But yeah, metric ton of BS. Metric, not imperial.

As a side note, I will add that completely believe it. In fact, I would be surprised that was not the general approach. I don't know many rational people, who can deal with raging ******** and not erupt with expletives. And whatever you want to think of Trump, you have to admit that he is Top American Grade ********* Maybe world over. The best.
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gbaji wrote:
Given the sheer volume of complete BS reported over the last year or so by "unnamed sources", and given that this is yet another "just what liberals want to believe" claim, yeah, I'm going to go with "made it up completely". Why should I believe differently?

You, uh, have no idea who Erick Erickson is? Is that what you meant? Ok then.
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#1185 Apr 11 2018 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Given the sheer volume of complete BS reported over the last year or so by "unnamed sources", and given that this is yet another "just what liberals want to believe" claim, yeah, I'm going to go with "made it up completely". Why should I believe differently?

You, uh, have no idea who Erick Erickson is? Is that what you meant? Ok then.


Um... A stereotypical anti-Trump conservative, who liberals love (well, right now) because he bashes someone they hate, so they can play the "even his own side doesn't like him" narrative? I mean, that is precisely what you were doing, right? Doubly so, since the story is about a GOP congressman doing the bashing of Trump. So it's like double plus goodness!

It's not like this is our first time around this wagon wheel Joph. Remember back in the Bush days, when you'd constantly trot out some story about a conservative pundit or GOP member criticizing Bush and make hay out of it? Same freaking deal here. Remember how I'd keep pointing out how funny it is that you criticize the GOP for being in "lockstep" and just blindly following their leaders (a feature far more prevalent in the Dems btw), but then jump on any story of any conservative criticizing something done by the GOP as "proof" of some kind of breakdown, or failure, or whatever.

Um... which is it? Is differences of opinion a sign of a healthy party full of people with independent ideas who aren't afraid to disagree with each other? Or is it a sign of calamity within any party or "side" of our politics? I'm ok with whichever position you choose, but you really ought to actually pick one and stick with it.

In case you're curious, I'm not bothered by this sort of disagreement. I happen to be in the "this is healthy" camp. But you're free to disagree. But yeah, the fact that there exist people out there, who are conservative, and who criticize Trump (or whomever is a "leader" in the GOP), does not bother me, nor do I think it's incredibly significant, except to display how much my party is *not* just about toeing the freaking line.

Your "side" is so terrified to step out of the rules set by their leadership, that they'll do stupid things like not challenging a moronically bad candidate like Clinton, all in the name of party loyalty. How'd that work out? Not so great.
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Hey, gbaji, remember when you said you weren't going to support Trump?

How's that, uh, how's that workin' out for ya, chummer?
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Hey, gbaji, remember when you said you weren't going to support Trump?

How's that, uh, how's that workin' out for ya, chummer?

That's pretty much it. Erickson was one of the few conservatives to NOT line up to suck Trump's dick and the rest are bitterly calling the few with any conviction a sell-out and a liar. The idea that Erickson, who has been a conservative name for years and years, is suddenly generating false interviews with Republicans to make liberals happy or whatever is nonsense but I suppose it makes some people feel better.
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In case you're curious, I'm not bothered by this sort of disagreement. I happen to be in the "this is healthy" camp.

...said the guy crying "No! No sources! Liar! Liberal propaganda!!!!!" Smiley: laughSmiley: laughSmiley: laugh

When I think things are healthy, I don't trip all over myself trying to insist that they're not true.

The funny thing is that it's not even all that important. I just posted it because it was amusing, not because it "proved" anything. The reason why it rings true is because everyone already knows that the House GOP is in panic mode, that Trump regularly fucks up progress in Congress so they have little to show and that he's weighing the party down like an anchor. Paul Ryan isn't bailing because he thinks the GOP is headed for a banner year or else he'd be staying on to fight for slashing entitlements.

Edited, Apr 12th 2018 7:55am by Jophiel
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#1188 Apr 12 2018 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Given the sheer volume of complete BS reported over the last year or so by "unnamed sources", and given that this is yet another "just what liberals want to believe" claim, yeah, I'm going to go with "made it up completely". Why should I believe differently?
Mostly that this is a more solid investigation with genuine leads than the whole birth certificate thing and you chased that particular dragon for the better part of a decade, Quixote.
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Hey, gbaji, remember when you said you weren't going to support Grump?
Remember when he said that his principles were so strong that he'd vote for Hillary before 45? Good times.

Edited, Apr 12th 2018 9:18am by lolgaxe
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#1189 Apr 12 2018 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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Hey, gbaji, remember when you said you weren't going to support Grump?
Remember when he said that his principles were so strong that he'd vote for Hillary before 45? Good times.
He voted for Jill Stein to help her get 5% of the vote and become a real contender and change America.
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#1190 Apr 12 2018 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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Was catching up on some weekend viewing yesterday. On the Simpsons, during the opening sequence, Bart is writing on the chalkboard while in detention.

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After learning that trade wars are harder than just throwing around numbers, Trump is supposedly trying to slink back into the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement. On his terms, of course.

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#1192 Apr 12 2018 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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These are the hard hitting jokes of our time.
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On his terms, of course.
Who'da thunkt that being a mediocre business man and full time punchline wouldn't be assets to running a country.
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Poor Trump wanted his own hard hitting Situation Room photo so bad, he had to have Sanders fake it. Remembering how Gbaji was having kittens insisting that the famous OBL Situation Room photo was faked/staged/etc, the irony here isn't lost on me. I'm sure it is on him though Smiley: laugh
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#1194 Apr 16 2018 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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Between stealing 'bama's photobomb and Bush's premature exclamation there really isn't much else that can be said.
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#1195 Apr 16 2018 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Don't worry that's never stopped anyone before. I'm sure the 24-hour news programs will power on regardless.
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Michael Cohen had three clients last year. One was Trump where Cohen handled a couple hush-money operations with Trump's mistresses, one was RNC deputy finance chair Elliott Broidy where Cohen handled hush money for Broidy's mistress and the last is... Sean Hannity. Huh, I wonder what that legal service could have been about.

Edited, Apr 16th 2018 3:01pm by Jophiel
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Not sure, but the internet has been awesome today because of it.

Smiley: popcorn

Edited, Apr 16th 2018 1:49pm by someproteinguy
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#1198 Apr 16 2018 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, I guess Kevin Smith *was* right, there is an actual job of **** Mopper. I don't envy him who has to clean up after these guys' messes.
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Wow, I guess Kevin Smith *was* right, there is an actual job of **** Mopper. I don't envy him who has to clean up after these guys' messes.
Also, it leaves streaks if you don't clean it right away.

So he was right twice.Smiley: nod
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#1200 Apr 17 2018 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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You know how much money the average jizz-mopper makes per hour?

Especially the ones that work on NASA's shuttles.

Edited, Apr 17th 2018 10:15am by lolgaxe
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Kavekkk wrote:
Hey, gbaji, remember when you said you weren't going to support Trump?

How's that, uh, how's that workin' out for ya, chummer?

That's pretty much it. Erickson was one of the few conservatives to NOT line up to suck Trump's dick and the rest are bitterly calling the few with any conviction a sell-out and a liar.


You're... kidding, right? One of the few? There is a pretty large number of conservative pundits who criticize Trump, for a whole variety of things, and to a variety of degrees. I'm not directly familiar with Erickson (I don't listen to talk radio, and I don't think he's broadcast in my area anyway), but it's not like it's all roses and unicorns with the right leaning folks regarding Trump.

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The idea that Erickson, who has been a conservative name for years and years, is suddenly generating false interviews with Republicans to make liberals happy or whatever is nonsense but I suppose it makes some people feel better.


Um... Or some of us don't assume that this is a conservative vs liberal issue? Just a thought. That was the point I was making earlier about you making hay about whether/when a conservative criticizes another conservative. The reality is that it's not that uncommon, nor that unusual. So... not really much hay there. Except it your own mind. Again. There are plenty of conservatives who don't like Trump. Some of them quite a bit. They have just as much reason to want to bash him as any random liberal pundit might.

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In case you're curious, I'm not bothered by this sort of disagreement. I happen to be in the "this is healthy" camp.

...said the guy crying "No! No sources! Liar! Liberal propaganda!!!!!" Smiley: laughSmiley: laughSmiley: laugh


It's healthy for people to question and even criticize folks on "their side". That doesn't mean I agree with what they say. And I'm going to apply the same rules to sources regardless of which "side" the person making the claim is on. Again. You're the one thinking that we should view this guy differently because he's a conservative. I'm treating him, not based on his political alignment, but based purely on what he wrote, and what support he has for it (ie: nothing).

I'm not the one making the assumption that because the guy's a conservative he wouldn't lie or exaggerate something in order to make a point. You are. Which is pretty darn ironic of you really.


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The funny thing is that it's not even all that important. I just posted it because it was amusing, not because it "proved" anything.


Which is odd, given your reaction when I responded with "this doesn't prove anything".

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The reason why it rings true...


Mighty fine line you're drawing between something that "doesn't prove anything" and something that "rings true".

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... is because everyone already knows that the House GOP is in panic mode, that Trump regularly fucks up progress in Congress so they have little to show and that he's weighing the party down like an anchor. Paul Ryan isn't bailing because he thinks the GOP is headed for a banner year or else he'd be staying on to fight for slashing entitlements.


Yeah. Panic mode. Got it. I can't speak directly for why Ryan is leaving, but "Trump is a big meanie" likely isn't the reason. And no, "Trump is blocking progress" likely isn't the reason either. Given that the GOP house, under Ryan, has been pretty well aligned with Trump, and the main obstacle has been the Senate (both the GOP and Dems), it seems far more likely that he's looking at rising conservative dissatisfaction with his party, not because of Trump blocking things, but because of the GOP members not getting on board with the agenda which the voters actually seem to want (which, in case you haven't been paying attention is pretty well aligned with both Trump and the House). He's looking at getting stuck in the middle of that, in a thankless job, and perhaps even looking at a presidential bid in 2024, and wanting to get out of this before his own personal rep gets dragged down along the way.


But that's just my speculation. And I suppose you could say that Trump is spurring that conflict. But to be honest, Trump (in this case anyway) is really just a manifestation of general conservative dissatisfaction with the GOP not standing firm on conservative positions, which has been going on for a long time (long before Trump got on the scene). The latest budget bill is a great example of this. And on that one at least, it's not like Ryan was in opposition to Trump. They were on the same side, but couldn't get what they wanted past the Senate. Which is not remotely in line with what you are suggesting.

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