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#1 Oct 07 2014 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
So a DJ on the only radio station I listen to was going on about a movie yesterday, and I know she mentioned it again today.
The movie is called Horns, based off a book by the same name. The thing is, is it hasn't hit theaters yet. From what I understand, it isn't suppose to come out til Oct 31st.
However it seems Amazon (Prime) is in the market with making deals. You can rent it via Amazon for $10, or own it for $15. I decided to buy it, because there is no way I'm ever renting a movie for $10. so know I own a digital movie, that I can only "seem" to watch via Amazon Prime or DL it to 4 devices, none of which I would DL a movie to (I only own 1, an Ipad).

I wonder if many of you would jump on board for such a service? Not the streaming of things. Heck I am part of Netflix and Amazon Prime, but a service were you do not have to go out to the theater. This seems like the logical next step for Hollywood, but will people use it?




Me, I like and dislike the idea.
I like that I stayed here in my chair, ate pizza, was able to pause the movie, and had 0 theater issues.
I dislike it was $15 for a digital movie. A lot of the "rent" movies on Amazon are around $10. The local Movie Rental place in town (we still have one, it is crazy) is priced at $3-4 for new movies. $-3 for older movies.

As for the movie I linked. It was decent. A little strange, but I liked it.
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#2 Oct 07 2014 at 9:29 PM Rating: Good
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I would probably pay 10-15 dollars to watch a same day theater release on digital at my home rather than go to the theater. But I can't say I see it happening any time soon with the major films. Cause I'd imagine groups sitting down and watching for 15 dollars and they'd really have no way to stop it.

So most of the "see it now before it's in the theater" movies I've seen are ones that aren't big audience draws anyway.
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#3 Oct 08 2014 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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Cause I'd imagine groups sitting down and watching for 15 dollars and they'd really have no way to stop it.


I thought about this to. Did you know this is in a grey area?
I work with someone who is a Pastor and from time to time they like to have family movie nights. They have to buy a licences if there is going to be over X amount of people there.
They do it to be "safe".
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#4 Oct 08 2014 at 7:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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If I care enough to see a first-run movie, it's because I want to see it on a large screen. So a $10 digital rental seems pointless to me; if I'm fine with seeing it the first time on my tablet or even home television, I'm going to be fine waiting until it's traditional rental.

There's very few movies I care enough about or plan to watch enough to make them worth owning. Even the ones I do own, I rarely actually watch. So owning a $15 movie I've never seen is nonsensical for me.
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#5 Oct 08 2014 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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I sometimes like the theater experience to watch audience reactions.
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#6 Oct 08 2014 at 5:03 PM Rating: Good
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I'm one of those strange people who actually does buy movies (and TV series too!), but only if I have the physical media. I'd never pay money just to have access to a digital copy of something that I must use some service to use. I'm not sure if $15 for a digital copy of a film a few days before release is such a great deal either. That's more than you'd pay to see it in the theater (barring like Imax, or luxury theater setup), and instead of getting to leverage the expense of the theater (big screen and speakers) with your ticket price, you're using your own screen instead. Can't imagine the point of seeing a new film on an ipad, much less paying to do so.

I could maybe see this if you already owned a really nice home theater setup, and invited a few friends over though. And frankly, I'm assuming the high price takes into account the assumption that most people will do something like this. After cutting out the theater middleman, even the $10 rental price is basically like 5 or 6 tickets worth of profit to the production/distribution company. And hey, if they still sell the same number of showings downstream, then it's all just pure profit for them.
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How often do you rewatch movies? Even a "classic" movie "I could watch this any time" that I own like Aliens or Pulp Fiction I'm good for maybe once a year or so. I mean, I'd watch it if it was on and I was flipping channels but to actually say "I need to watch Aliens right now" doesn't happen much and I could live with just renting them when I have that hankerin'. But I know a lot of people buy movies so maybe it's different for a significant number of people.

People who own a wall of shelves with DVDs always puzzle me. I mean, really? How often are you going to watch Gremlins 2: The New Batch that you needed to purchase a copy and have it taking up space in your home?
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#8 Oct 09 2014 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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How often are you going to watch Gremlins 2: The New Batch
EVERY. CHANCE. I. GET.

A lot of things I download first, and then if I enjoy them I'll buy them. A shelf on the wall doesn't take that much room, and eventually the kid and dog figure out the new dimensions and stop running face first into them. Hell, depending you could probably build the shelf into the wall if it's such a hassle for space.
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#9 Oct 09 2014 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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I've watched Summer Wars 9 times. We won't talk about how many times I've rewatched Maria-sama ga Miteru since that's not a movie.
#10 Oct 09 2014 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
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I've rewatched the Marvel movies, The Fifth Element, and The Princess Bride a bunch of times each.

Oh, and Drop Dead Fred. And Pacific Rim.

But if I'm buying a movie, I'm buying the bluray. Getting a digital copy is easy, and I only buy films I want immediate access to.

Thing is, I often put on movies I've watched when I want something moderately entertaining in the background, that I don't need to give my full attention to. If I tune in and out, it's fine, because I know what's happening.
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you could probably build the shelf into the wall if it's such a hassle for space.

I... could... but... why would I go through the work to store a bunch of movies I'm not going to watch?

This is why I actually prefer digital storage for these sorts of things. If I had to store every PC game I own on physical media, I'd have a ton of discs for stuff I rarely or never play. But having it digitally means I'm not dusting my copy of Secret of the Magic Crystals once a week. The slim risk of losing access to it is worth it to not have to deal with the physical product (plus, if I really cared I'd download everything and keep my Steam account in offline mode).
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#12 Oct 09 2014 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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I see it more as supporting a product that you enjoy and want to see more of than the potential to rewatch. Though I agree, digital storage is better all the way around than physical. It really depends whether it exists digitally in the first place, and if said digital copy isn't stored exclusively on a Cloud or whatever. I just don't trust the technology and I'm not fond of the idea of needing some kind of connection to access it.
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#13 Oct 09 2014 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe for special occasions where there was a gathering of people in front of my screen I'd buy a movie, but typically no.

I enjoy going to the theater, and am ok paying 15 bucks+ for the experience, but not for a home movie night.

There are so many movies I've not yet seen that I can get for no money or less money or through services that I already pay for, that I couldn't justify it.

How did you like Horns?

That's the one with Harry Potter isn't it?
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#14 Oct 09 2014 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
How often do you rewatch movies? Even a "classic" movie "I could watch this any time" that I own like Aliens or Pulp Fiction I'm good for maybe once a year or so.


Sure. And this way you can do that once a year viewing whenever you want. I don't own a ton of films, and some of them are junky things some family member bought for me for a present or something, but most are things that I like and will watch repeatedly.

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I mean, I'd watch it if it was on and I was flipping channels but to actually say "I need to watch Aliens right now" doesn't happen much and I could live with just renting them when I have that hankerin'. But I know a lot of people buy movies so maybe it's different for a significant number of people.


For me, it's having it right there and not having to go somewhere (online, redbox, whatever) to get it. It's not super uncommon for me to be sitting around at home on a weeknight, flip through channels on TV and nothing interesting is on, and then decide to find a film to watch. Also, I find digital downloads are often not the same quality as a bluray disk (cable on demand is kinda mediocre for example, and most online streaming sources are similarly crappy). Rentals of any kind are pot luck in terms of what is available (I've literally scanned every single title on netflicks and found nothing I was remotely interested in).

And sometimes it actually is "Gee, I'd really like to watch Iron Man 1 tonight", and not having to go find it somewhere is super convenient.

There are also some series' that I have purchased over time and have rewatched many times. I like to watch Band of Brothers about once a year. It's just a great series. Similarly, I've seriously gotten my money's worth out of Firefly. Hell. I've lent that out to like 8 people, something that's a lot easier to do when you own the physical media than otherwise. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I like having the physical disks. If I'm going to pay money for something, I'd like more than just some license to use what is really someone else's property.
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Sure. And this way you can do that once a year viewing whenever you want.

Sounds good enough. But watching a movie is rarely time sensitive enough for me that that's a factor. And with a rental place near my house and Netflix/On Demand/Amazon Prime/etc it's rare that a movie in inaccessible to me for more than five minutes. I realize you cite not needing to use those as a reason it's a positive for you to own it but in my estimation that's precisely what they exist for -- so I can watch stuff I don't feel the need to own a copy of.
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It's not super uncommon for me to be sitting around at home on a weeknight, flip through channels on TV and nothing interesting is on, and then decide to find a film to watch.

That's probably a good part of it right there. I'm not a big TV/Movie watcher in general. If I'm sitting around the house bored, I'm ninety-nine times more likely to be sifting through my games catalog than flipping TV channels. Well, that and I probably get a lot less "bored" time with a spouse and a couple kids.
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#16 Oct 09 2014 at 4:08 PM Rating: Good
I re-watch movies a lot. I go and see some in theaters, and normally I buy what I liked on now usually on BluRay.
Speaking of Grimlins 2. I wanted to watch it the other day, but only have it on VHS. The only VCR I have is deep under my bed, and I can not reach it Smiley: lol
Since being off work the last...2 1/2 months, I've almost rewatched every thing I own :p

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How did you like Horns?

That's the one with Harry Potter isn't it?


Yea, with Dan lol. It was a unique twisted look at Good &/v. Evil.

The shibby:
Guy meets his soul mate at like age 9-11. By 21+ he wants to marry her. She is found dead and rapped (? spell check). The entire town blames him, and he is looking at going to jail for something he claims he didn't do. Yet he isn't 100% sure, as the night it happened, a lot happened. He isn't sure if he didn't get so black out drunk and mad at her.
At the one year mark of her death, friends and family gather at her death spot. He (goes by Igg) is there but hiding, and drunk. He then desecrates a statue of Mary and long short story shorter, he wakes up with horns growing out of his head.
Horns of Satan. When he gets near people, the worst comes out. They tell him their deepest darkest secrets. He can also command them to do as he bids. So he uses this "evil" power to figure out who was the real killer.



I like the digital idea, just not the price. And/or not being able to share. I know I could not buy movies...but I could also not buy music and comics. I'd rather support the things I enjoy. I just like sharing as well. Helps get other people on to things they may have never looked into.
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#17 Oct 09 2014 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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I've rewatched ... The Fifth Element,.
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Three to four times a year each.

I'm one of those who like to rewatch to deliberately look past the main characters on screen to check out the background. Lots of stuff going on back there in a well-made movie. For a pure comedy example, re-watch the first Austin powers movie. so much silly stuff in the background that's easy to miss if you're just looking at the faces up front.
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Most of my movie collection is from before digital downloads became widely available. I also refuse to buy a DRM locked copy of anything. A lot of what I do own is somewhat rare-ish and harder to find sci-fi / fantasy things that you generally don't find on Netflix and whatnot anyways. For me, it's just worth the extra $3 to buy the damned thing and not have to worry about taking it back to a video store of some sort when those existed.
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#19 Oct 13 2014 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I saw The Fifth Element back when it came out in theaters. I think I may have seen it again on video or cable. I tried watching it a few months ago and was bored a half-hour in. I know some people are avid fans of it but I'm not seeing what they see.

I'm the same way with Boondock Saints. Fun mindless action movie with some comedy bits but its level of fan-worship from some people leaves me confused. But, hey, lid for every pot and all that.

Edited, Oct 13th 2014 9:26am by Jophiel
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I know some people are avid fans of it but I'm not seeing what they see.
You just need a multipass to get on the flying hype train.
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Most of my movie collection is from before digital downloads became widely available. I also refuse to buy a DRM locked copy of anything. A lot of what I do own is somewhat rare-ish and harder to find sci-fi / fantasy things that you generally don't find on Netflix and whatnot anyways. For me, it's just worth the extra $3 to buy the damned thing and not have to worry about taking it back to a video store of some sort when those existed.


Similar for me. Whenever I'm at Best Buy or Frys, I'll roam through the video section to see if they have anything neat and/or cheap. Some old/rare titles occasionally pop up in new bluray format and are cheap as heck. Picked up Heavy Metal for like $5. Picked up Wizards for the same price IIRC. Saw it the first time in the theater as a kid as a double feature with LoTR (which is what we were there to see). Bakshi's LoTR was terrible, but Wizards absolutely rocked. So when I saw it just sitting there on a shelf, it was like a piece of my childhood that I could own.

I also like to spend the extra cash to buy the directors cuts of films I really like, while often the stuff available online are just the theatrical releases. One of the things you often don't get (or can't find) with online rentals (and definitely not with on-demand stuff) is the extra features. Bonus shorts (like the Marvel films tend to have) can usually be found, but the behind the scenes stuff and conversations with the director/producer/whomever usually can't. And I like watching that stuff. You can get a lot of insight into the thinking behind various scenes and explanations of how some plot elements were developed for the film that is interesting (at least to me). Sometimes, it's just great back story stuff that you wont get just watching the feature itself. Dunno. I like it. And it's mine! All mine!!!
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Makes sense again. I almost never watch bonus content even when I have the physical disc. So not having it doesn't bother me.
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#24 Oct 13 2014 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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Lol. I've actually watched a few films with the commentary turned on. Not like the first time or anything (cause that would be weird), but if it's a film I love and have watched a zillion times, I'll watch it once with the commentary turned on just to see what the director has to say about each scene. Sometimes, it's actually pretty darn interesting. The Highlander (the film) commentary is particularly cool actually. It's kinda like sitting there watching a film with someone who's really into it and knows everything about what happened behind the scenes while filming it and tells you all about it while the film's playing. Obviously, that's annoying as heck if you're trying to actually watch and enjoy the film, but if you've seen it a few times and want to learn all that trivia, it's kinda cool.
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For the most part I don't like to rewatch movies unless they happen to come on tv at a time that I'm wanting to watch tv. If there is a decade between viewings, it's like watching them for the first time again.
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I re-watch very few films, the only one which comes to mind is Primer, and I'm not sure if that counts.
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