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#1 Jan 19 2015 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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If my DVR is to be believed, season 2 is starting up this week. The first season was good, if a bit hard to follow in spots (and had the requisite adult content), so I'll be watching season 2. Just figured I'd toss out a reminder for everyone. ARrrr!
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#2 Jan 19 2015 at 5:03 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, it's to be believed. They are airing commercials for the season starting up.

I think one of the networks is having another pirate show too. Without the boobs, since it's network TV.
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#3 Jan 24 2015 at 9:09 PM Rating: Good
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Started out a bit slow. Good, but slow.

Also DaVinci's Demons is starting back up. Vespuccia!



And on a lesser note... Outlander is as well. I'm sure Smash will be happy about that.
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#4 Jan 24 2015 at 9:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Watched it tonight and it was still the show I remembered (whether or not that's "good" is up to you but I liked it). Brothel boobs, people getting killed, couple good laughs from Silver, etc. Still find Guthrie and her adventures the least interesting parts of the show* but I consistently like the Flint/Silver parts and usually like the Rackham/Bonnet parts so it's a net positive for me.


*Actually, I find Flint's wife's scenes to be duller but those are thankfully infrequent.
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#5 Jan 24 2015 at 9:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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And on a lesser note... Outlander is as well. I'm sure Smash will be happy about that.

My wife is ALL ABOUT that show. I was laughing at how hard they were trying to tie the two shows together with the beginning promo and trying to overlap the demographics there.
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#6 Jan 24 2015 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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Both are olden times.

And they conveniently left out the woman from the promos while trying to promote it to the audience of Black Sails.

I enjoyed the trailer for the next season of Da Vinci's Demons though. I've liked that show, even if it is a bit out there at times. Time seems to flow strangely on that show, especially when they are sailing across the Atlantic to undiscovered lands like it's a drive to the convenient store to pick up some milk and eggs.
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#7 Jan 31 2015 at 3:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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My wife has strange connections and received these in the mail today:

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#8 Jan 31 2015 at 3:54 PM Rating: Good
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Just randomly? Without buying anything?

I can't say I've had mead, so I'm not sure how mead and rum would mix, and pepper, I'm imagining black pepper, which I've had infused with some other things. Wasn't bad. Fragrant oil infused makes the scotch sound like it'd taste like perfume...
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They were promo items for media people (TV reviewers, etc). Like I said, she knows people and someone sent them along to her since she's a fan of the shows. I thought they were bizarre enough to warrant mentioning as opposed to a set of coasters or poster or paperweight or something.

Edit: She says we'll drink the Black Sails rum one tonight. So we'll find out! Maybe I'll pour mine into a Diet Coke like a pirate sorority girl.

Edited, Jan 31st 2015 4:04pm by Jophiel
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#10 Jan 31 2015 at 9:05 PM Rating: Good
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Blondie's gotta go. Such a bad character.

Flint and Silver. Good.
Rackham, Bonny, and... Max? Alright.
Even Guthrie's new captain enemy. Ok.

But Guthrie. Like how she handled the scene in the bar. The expression on her face, the reaction... no way someone like that is keeping control of a Black Market island of Pirates. That's just not possible.
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Guthrie's easily the weakest storyline in the plot. Both for believability and just story entertainment.

Captain Low's been laying it on a bit thick. Oooohhhhhhh.... so scary and dangerous one-eyed pirate man!

I liked when what's-his-name told Dufrense that either he'd been talking to someone very experienced or else that Dufrense had been holding back. Flint's a sociopath but you still gotta appreciate that he knows his stuff. Plus he now has a hella sweet coat.

Edited, Jan 31st 2015 9:17pm by Jophiel
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#12 Jan 31 2015 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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So, how was the peppered rum/mead?
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About four peppers too many. Probably be better in a mixer but I just took a couple shots of it straight.
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#14 Feb 02 2015 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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But Guthrie. Like how she handled the scene in the bar. The expression on her face, the reaction... no way someone like that is keeping control of a Black Market island of Pirates. That's just not possible.


I assume that's the point. They're trying to make it clear that she doesn't actually have the skills or power to control the port, and did so previously only because of her father. Now that she's broken from him, she doesn't have the chops. The problem is that they've done this in such a hamfisted way, and made the character so incredibly useless and inept at running anything, or even apparently understanding the environment around her, that it's hard to imagine how she was ever able to run this place even when she was just doing so for her father.

It's a case of the writers sorely underestimating their audience. We get that she's out of her depth without her father's backing. We got that waaaaaay back when. But it seems like they think we don't understand this, so they keep making her look more and more helpless to drive home the point, when all they're really accomplishing is destroying any believability the character might have had. If they'd made her a competent leader, scrambling to maintain control after breaking off from her father's patronage, it would actually be a pretty good story. By making her incompetent, it's not. It's just a constant stream of head scratching over why she's even still alive.
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#15 Feb 02 2015 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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That's just it. She hasn't shown an ounce of being able to run an island of pirates. It'd be one thing if she was able to put on a front for the general public, but in her private talkings with her body guard and even the crazy captain she lost it. Or if she had started out competent but began slipping once new people showed up to challenge her and she had lost her father's support. But so far she hasn't done anything to show she was ever able be in control or lead the island, which leaves you wonder how the she's not chained up below deck as a sex slave to some random pirate captain by now.
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#16 Feb 02 2015 at 7:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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As in the last season, this show eats through plot points like M&Ms. Any other show would spend a whole season on "Flint wants his captaincy back". This show, it's "Hey, don't go east and try to take a ship... lulz, psyche! Who's captain now, bitch?"
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#17 Feb 02 2015 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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It's kind of nice. They don't drag things out.

I do find the sudden shifts from current day Flint to past day Flint a bit abrupt at times. "Where are we? Oh, ok, there's Flint all fancied up. We're in a flashback now".

I'm still not 100% sure who the "special cargo" is. Someone important, I gather. But I can't put a face to the Lord, or the woman's relation.
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#18 Feb 03 2015 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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It's kind of nice. They don't drag things out.


Yeah. Of course, in this case, they kinda had to. They were only a few days out of port, so he either had to take the ship back quickly, or not at all. I suppose they could have stretched that out in terms of numbers of episodes, but I'm guessing they actually want to advance the story in terms of Flint and the new ship in need of a lot more crew, and a bunch of gold sitting on beach. Sadly, this will probably also require a few episodes of Flint getting tangled up in Guthrie's mess. Last season they spent how many episodes just trying to get the ship equipped and ready to sail?

Oh. I did like the way Flint retook command though. That was actually really well done. Not just for the whole "takes experience and judgement to be a good captain" bit, but also the fact that Flint's reputation alone would have resulted in success where Dufrense failed (solely because he *wasn't* Flint). It made the crew's decision to take him back a lot more believable.

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I do find the sudden shifts from current day Flint to past day Flint a bit abrupt at times. "Where are we? Oh, ok, there's Flint all fancied up. We're in a flashback now".


Were there flashbacks? Either I missed them, or forgot about them. I can't think of any so far.

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I'm still not 100% sure who the "special cargo" is. Someone important, I gather. But I can't put a face to the Lord, or the woman's relation.


I think we'll find out in episode 3. At least the teaser suggests it. I'm also curious to see how Billy Bones manages to finagle his way out of his predicament (or even who's holding/torturing him). Should be a fun little surprise for someone.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2015 4:32pm by gbaji
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#19 Feb 03 2015 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
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I do find the sudden shifts from current day Flint to past day Flint a bit abrupt at times. "Where are we? Oh, ok, there's Flint all fancied up. We're in a flashback now".


Were there flashbacks? Either I missed them, or forgot about them. I can't think of any so far.


While I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure that both of the episodes so far have had a number of flash backs to when Flint was still in the navy. And his relationship with the woman he was having an affair with (it was an affair right? Something along those lines...). Like when he gets in a small brawl at the bar as someone mentions that if you get close enough to the captain he would let you **** his wife.

The transition between current day and his thoughts of the past are pretty subtle, no real indications that it happened. I wasn't 100% sure what was happening at first.

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I'm still not 100% sure who the "special cargo" is. Someone important, I gather. But I can't put a face to the Lord, or the woman's relation.


I think we'll find out in episode 3. At least the teaser suggests it

I'm usually bad with remembering names throughout a series, even more so across seasons when they aren't main characters, so when I heard the captain talking about, Lord Ashe, assumed I was supposed to know who the girl was from the previous season.


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I'm also curious to see how Billy Bones manages to finagle his way out of his predicament (or even who's holding/torturing him). Should be a fun little surprise for someone.


I kind of forgot about him in the last episode.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2015 8:04pm by TirithRR
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#22 Feb 03 2015 at 7:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah. Of course, in this case, they kinda had to. They were only a few days out of port, so he either had to take the ship back quickly, or not at all.

Sure, but they could have written that any way they wanted to. Dufrense didn't have to say Flint was kicked off when they returned to Nassau or the crew could have voted to keep him on board (it was a tight vote as is) or the winds could have made it a week-long trip or a million other contrivances to keep the story going. I'm just saying it's interesting how quickly the series burns through points that you'd think would hang around for longer (Silver's page, Vane's exile, Flint's captaincy, Guthrie's building of the consortium, etc)

Yeah, both episodes showed flashbacks to Flint's early days with Hamilton (presumably father to Alexander Hamilton who was born in Jamaica and thus ineligible to be president). Sort of confusing and the fact that I'm less interested in than I am in the present doesn't help me follow along. Mad Men was good for the same sort of thing -- showing the main character from a decade earlier without preamble and people using different names to further complicate things.

Edit: Whoops, Alexander Hamilton was born in Nevis, not Jamaica. And in 1755 which is another 40 years out from the setting so probably 45-50 years out from the flashback periods so... grandfather?

Edited, Feb 3rd 2015 7:24pm by Jophiel
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While I could be wrong, I'm pretty sure that both of the episodes so far have had a number of flash backs to when Flint was still in the navy. And his relationship with the woman he was having an affair with (it was an affair right? Something along those lines...). Like when he gets in a small brawl at the bar as someone mentions that if you get close enough to the captain he would let you **** his wife.

The transition between current day and his thoughts of the past are pretty subtle, no real indications that it happened. I wasn't 100% sure what was happening at first.


Holy crap! I didn't even get that these were flashbacks at all. I thought these were some new characters being introduced who would go off and hunt pirates. Wow. Totally missed that. WTF? Now I have to go re-watch the episodes. Grrr....

Might have helped if I'd actually watched season 1 again, cause I'd forgotten all the backstory stuff about Flint (cause: boring).


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I'm also curious to see how Billy Bones manages to finagle his way out of his predicament (or even who's holding/torturing him). Should be a fun little surprise for someone.


I kind of forgot about him in the last episode.


Well, at least I remembered something. Smiley: confused
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#24 Feb 07 2015 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
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Vane and Low, that was a bit unexpected. I didn't think they'd end that so quickly... just more of them moving things forward quickly. I imagine that the next episode will be the beginning and the end of the siege on the fort as well.

No big surprises with Flint/Barlow and the identity of the Ashe girl.


Side Note, Apparently Seth MacFarlane has a comedy series coming out on Starz, staring Patrick Stewart as a British newsman, Walter Blunt. First I had heard of it, but I'm interested. “Some people toe the line. Others Walk the Line. Walter Blunt Will Do A Line, If politely offered.”
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If I get to watch a Spanish warship do broadsides, I'm all over it.

I hasn't guessed that the prisoner was Ashe's daughter but mainly because I had forgotten who Lord Ashe was until they helpfully mentioned the Carolina colonies.
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If I get to watch a Spanish warship do broadsides, I'm all over it.


Seriously. That battle sequence at the end of the first season totally made up for the slow stuff in between.

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I hasn't guessed that the prisoner was Ashe's daughter but mainly because I had forgotten who Lord Ashe was until they helpfully mentioned the Carolina colonies.


Yup. Part of the boring back story bits that I kinda blanked on.
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