REFRESH PLZ

Party leader: /w 'Conjuerer' Hey are you a Water Mage?
Conjuerer: /w 'Party Leader' No sorry. I'm a Fire Mage.
Party leader: /w 'Conjuerer' Oh sorry we looking for a Water Mage only.

Or something like that, but still be interesting to see how it all works out.

Maybe the elemental specialties also means that the relative strength of each elemental direct damage spell is the same, so instead of getting to the point were we only cast blizzard and thunder spells, it's far more about weakness and personal affinity than magic mod based on level of the spell.

I wonder though, are elemental affinities mutually exclusive across the board, or would folks be allowed to become specialists in fire thunder wind at the expense of ice water earth (rather than, strong to fire, weak to ice, neutral to others or strong to fire, less than neutral to all others).

Interesting chances to diversify, but I do hope it's not too hard to change your affinity so it's more about "thunder spells r kool" and less "the highest percentage of endgame mobs have weaknesses to thunder so it helps in my guild application". I can see this as a really nice way to add depth, but it could be horribly constricting at the same time.

I kind of like the idea that you'll be micromanaging your mana as you travel through a given area to your 'final goal'.
I'm much more in favor of each class having a personal means to obtain mana that's interesting and inventive (ala sucking it from the mangled corpses of your foes), as opposed to just a ho-hum class with refresh.

I wonder if that means that Resting is essentially nonexistent?
Actually I think it would be brilliant if it was the case. It's a mechanic that's completely at odds with mobility, and it opens up so much challenge for casting classes in MP management.

The growth part make me worry, though. Sounds an awful lot like use-based leveling. Which is one of those things that always sounds so great in theory, but 2 years into the game's lifespan it has devolved into this godawful miserable slog as people are socially forced to overcome the weaknesses that evolve naturally from their chosen class. Bonus points if your the healer who "has to work up" their HP by throwing yourself on the spear for a couple hundred hours. Fun times. Fun times.

As far as the elemental attributes go, supposedly one of the interpretations floating around has the last ability of one of the mages as able to equalize the elemental attributes of mobs and player alike. So theoretically, elemental affinity never really has to be a gamebreaking problem, especially in an endgame situation where you can expect that particular class to be around.


Edited, Mar 11th 2010 12:21am by Zemzelette

I'd like to know what the f*ck is going on in the cover page.

I love that they're all gang banging a crab in the picture... the more things change etc.

I think we could expect the same for tanks aswell. Paladins specializing in taking Ice and Fire damage versus a Paladin specializing in Water and Lightning damage... As a future Gladiator (Tanking ftw) in FFXIV I'm a little worried.

So my big question is this:

How will your chosen element(s) affect your your crafting?

Just something to ponder..

I'm loving the Lalafell pics. I wasn't planning on being a little guy again in FFXIV but the cuteness is drawing me in! Will I ever grow up? Must I navigate through a sea of legs in crowded areas again and only be able to talk face to face with people when they sit down? Can I at least have the ability to climb onto desks, AH counters, boulders and Roegadyn? Please!?!?!?!?!?!?

I have nothing to add, except that I am excited. :D

I have to admit, they do look better than in past pictures. The ones released before have just been meh, but these actually look pretty cool!

Interesting information, I do wish we would have heard about some more disciplines by now though, I also wish we knew more about the crafting/HELM jobs as well. Any info is great though, really interesting read. I wonder how many jobs there will be to start off with? I doubt the only starting melee jobs are going to be Gladiator/Pugilist/Lancer/Archer and that there will only be two mage jobs to start out, but I could be wrong?

Edited, Mar 10th 2010 10:49pm by EndlessJourney

FFXI only had 6 jobs at launch. By the time it reached North America,several had been added with RoTZ (I think SMN was added between JP launch and RoTZ, but I could be mistaken). If you compare the current class list as we've seen it to what FFXI had for jobs at launch, they aren't all that far apart.

Actually, as of now, 15 classes have been announced or mentioned: http://ffxiv.zam.com/wiki/Armoury_System_%28FFXIV%29 It just sounds like they haven't given all of them a lot of press coverage.

The Thaumaturge sounds interesting, almost like the Enchanter in EQ.

Hmmm the high class armor in those pictures might very well be AF1 already.



I don't think Conjurer is going to specialize into just certain element(s). Seems more like Scholar where you just pick the appropriate element at the start of the fight.





Somehow it just doesn't feel right for me to consider crafters/gatherers in the same league as the fighting classes. I don't think they're inferior but they're just something different.

Edited, Mar 11th 2010 9:28am by RedGalka

check out pugilist again. it looks like its part monk part thief.




idk that sounded thiefy

Looks like the disciples of magic are pretty powerful. They took WHM and BLM and made Conjurer, RDM and BLU and made Thaumaturge. I really like the descriptions of both classes so far. I wouldn't get too attatched to Thaumaturge yet though.



Edited, Mar 11th 2010 6:29am by Tenfooterten

I'm glad that there are less combat classes, though I am sad that there's currently no pet classes, more precisely no DRG.

Having 15, 18, and 20 was a bit much, and for a perfectionist horribly overwhelming.

I'm really hoping that this game doesn't have all of the secrecy that XI has. I want to see what my ACC is instead of having to add everything up myself. Hidden effects on items and gear were also incredibly stupid.



Somewhere in the Famitsu interview it says that either blacksmith or miner(I think) have or might have access to something like treasure hunter. It seems that they split thf up among multiple classes.

I'm glad they're doing something different than in FFXI.

I wonder how good the classes will be at duoing, and if they're going to have a level sync system. If they do have the latter, I really hope it treats gear more fairly.

I wonder if there's going to be healing magic of different elements, and if they'll be affected by the elemental affinity of the caster and Target(s).

I was wondering about the Healing element myself.

They stated Conjurer will have powerful magic, Healing included and the chance of an AoE effect as well - but I really hope we see a class that specializes in protection.

I really want to Heal this time around I think ... Unless there's something Spoony to play.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.4gamer.net%2Fgames%2F092%2FG009287%2F20100310072%2F&sl=ja&tl=en

Looks to contain a lot more info. But this is using Google to translate though, so I'm sure we're losing some context here. Anyone wants to give it a shot and translate it directly from Japanese (Elmer?)?

Notice though, how they said that the conjurers would have several lines of spells. Maybe water buffs would be good at protecting the party from water monsters, while lightning nukes would be good at taking down water monsters. It could work out to be VERY interesting if SE does it right.

anyone realize that they are fighting crabs in the picture ><

This.

After reading all of the abilities it seems like they diced up what would have been a Thief and gave pieces to all of the current classes. :(

Edited, Mar 11th 2010 4:29pm by TheOneAnonymous

Ha, good read, thanks for all that work.
Exciting info, lookin forward to it. :P I love archery in RPGs, lookin forward to playing an archer from the get-go again.

Only thing I could think of that I wanted to see asked was about a natural indication of range in that game. With so many things being dependent upon distance and position, some sort of measuring system would be handy. There are "certain programs" you can use in FFXI to get the distance from enemies, and that's all well and good, but eyeballing it can be really rough sometimes.
If distance is even MORE important, I hope they give us the natural ability to gauge it somehow without having to guess.